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August 26th: PM2019 122 - The Semifinals I: Sweep
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Sham
npc
That might have been made on the fly at the Fantina battle but I still wouldn’t call him non strategic
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Pretty much, the characteristic for Ash's Dracovish in the new event is even "capable of taking hits"
Sceptilee
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I agree, I had no problems with the team he picked out. Infact, Dracovish is a great choice because Steven has multiple rock types. It's as you said, it would have been nice if we got a little pre match preview where Ash picks his Pokémon out.
Those kind of scenes are not very animation-intensive since it's just a bunch of people talking, I'd have much rather taken that over the random Eevee episode and the one we just got. It feels weird because on one hand, we're pressed for time and yet we see all these episodes that could have been replaced with more impactful fillers like Champion interactions, planning etc. Despite being such an important tournament, it really does feel like the atmosphere was much better in older regional tournaments even though this one should absolutely be blowing it out of the park.
Kazuniya
how cute~
Yes, I feel the same way. The PWC has been presented as this glamourous, high-level competition but the atmosphere has yet to match that of Sinnoh League or Kalos League, for example, which is really weird.
ShinyCharyZard
Too old for your rubbish..
Let’s face it, Cynthia won’t retire after battling Ash.. if anything, as someone already said, it will reignite her passion for battling..
sutellakiara
Shirona, my beloved...
I can't believe Cynthia's getting ANOTHER outfit! First kid Cynthia and now this? How blessed.
It's cute to see how she bonded with Bea because of their shared sweet tooth. And she's also a fan of Diantha's movies!
Cynthia and Diantha know one another well enough that Diantha's the one Cynthia tells about her choice of retiring after this tournament? Yurisisters... we won!
Well, jokes aside. It's good to see that the Champions, or at least some them, actually know one another from before and stuff. Gee, it sure would have been nice to actually see this in one episode or two, you know?
But really, seeing that she's getting a little bit of characterization and development, well, it doesn't make up for how badly she's losing against Leon, but it is still nice to see.
My forever cope will be that she wasn't able to train in preparation for the tournament because she literally was recording a movie until the last minute and that's the only reason why she's losing to Leon like this. And even so, despite that, she still managed to beat Lance and make it to the Top 4!
I'm not gonna lie, I've always thought that the "Leon has a bad sense of direction" is an absolutely trite non-flaw but I found funny that he asked for lodging at the Stadium but got denied.
But man, like, really? They really couldn't have come up for something new for Leon to put in this? Like, almost all the Cynthia and Diantha info there is brand new stuffs.
And speaking of Leon, I am so glad that he's using G-Max Charizard against Diantha. Firstly because at least tha means he actually had to try against Mega Gardevoir... the rest of the match non-withstanding. And honestly because I abhorred the idea of him being given a Mega Charizard Y just because as yet another show of Leonwank, to humiliate Diantha ever harder by defeating her with her Region's gimmick, and last but not least now it means that Leon stans will NEVER be able to argue against the *only in Galar next to a Powerspot asterisk argument.
Call it petty, but I'm way beyond caring at this point.
So, about the battle...
This thing about Cynthia wanting to retire is REALLY coming out of nowhere. I guess the idea is that this battle with Ash will reignite her passion for battling so she won't retire at the end of the day, but honestly, I can count with one hand the amount of times I've seen this plot point come up and have the character saying that ACTUALLY retire. It's pretty lazy and kinda crappy writing honestly.
I'll say, no Kommo-o is super weird. What was even the point? Just like how they made Gengar defeat Aggron with the WoW vs Kommo-o could have been Dragonite's turn to shine by perfecting the Draco Meteor thing. Dragonite... This was supposed to be your turn... Remember when Dragonite used to be an unbeatable beast? Good times...
Some higher-up must REALLY hate the Dragonite species.
However, I'm happy that my little dude Gastrodon is back and is gonna get a W. Very well deserved after getting robbed so hard last time. And man, Dragonite's not even gonna defeat Milotic to show it is superior to Jobnite or something. Jus why.
RIP Gengar but that's fine since Gengar had its time to shine(hehe) against Steven.
Insane that only Spiritomb, and only Cynthia as consequence, may be the the only ones to take down the rat. It makes sense Cynthia would prioritize taking Pikachu out of the picture as soon as possible. She's the only one who personally knows him and knows what a monster it can be after all.
Hopefully Sirfetch will get some of the spotlight here. It needs it and deserves it. The chances of Lucario getting 3KOs or something dumb like that are also looking high though so who knows.
My bias aside, this all feels super weird. If you didn't know any better you'd think this is the Finals of the tournament considering the amount of focus Cynthia's getting and the amount of hype the match is getting. Genuinely shocked and surprised at how Cynthia is actually being treated with respect considering how PM's been with what the rest of the M8 has gotten and its obsession with the invincible, unbeatable, undefeated, unrivaled, perfect Champion Dande-sama.
Against my better judgment, I'm getting a little excited about this fight. I really hope that the miracle happens and it does deliver at the end of the day.
It's cute to see how she bonded with Bea because of their shared sweet tooth. And she's also a fan of Diantha's movies!
Cynthia and Diantha know one another well enough that Diantha's the one Cynthia tells about her choice of retiring after this tournament? Yurisisters... we won!
Well, jokes aside. It's good to see that the Champions, or at least some them, actually know one another from before and stuff. Gee, it sure would have been nice to actually see this in one episode or two, you know?
But really, seeing that she's getting a little bit of characterization and development, well, it doesn't make up for how badly she's losing against Leon, but it is still nice to see.
My forever cope will be that she wasn't able to train in preparation for the tournament because she literally was recording a movie until the last minute and that's the only reason why she's losing to Leon like this. And even so, despite that, she still managed to beat Lance and make it to the Top 4!
I'm not gonna lie, I've always thought that the "Leon has a bad sense of direction" is an absolutely trite non-flaw but I found funny that he asked for lodging at the Stadium but got denied.
But man, like, really? They really couldn't have come up for something new for Leon to put in this? Like, almost all the Cynthia and Diantha info there is brand new stuffs.
And speaking of Leon, I am so glad that he's using G-Max Charizard against Diantha. Firstly because at least tha means he actually had to try against Mega Gardevoir... the rest of the match non-withstanding. And honestly because I abhorred the idea of him being given a Mega Charizard Y just because as yet another show of Leonwank, to humiliate Diantha ever harder by defeating her with her Region's gimmick, and last but not least now it means that Leon stans will NEVER be able to argue against the *only in Galar next to a Powerspot asterisk argument.
Call it petty, but I'm way beyond caring at this point.
So, about the battle...
This thing about Cynthia wanting to retire is REALLY coming out of nowhere. I guess the idea is that this battle with Ash will reignite her passion for battling so she won't retire at the end of the day, but honestly, I can count with one hand the amount of times I've seen this plot point come up and have the character saying that ACTUALLY retire. It's pretty lazy and kinda crappy writing honestly.
I'll say, no Kommo-o is super weird. What was even the point? Just like how they made Gengar defeat Aggron with the WoW vs Kommo-o could have been Dragonite's turn to shine by perfecting the Draco Meteor thing. Dragonite... This was supposed to be your turn... Remember when Dragonite used to be an unbeatable beast? Good times...
Some higher-up must REALLY hate the Dragonite species.
However, I'm happy that my little dude Gastrodon is back and is gonna get a W. Very well deserved after getting robbed so hard last time. And man, Dragonite's not even gonna defeat Milotic to show it is superior to Jobnite or something. Jus why.
RIP Gengar but that's fine since Gengar had its time to shine(hehe) against Steven.
Insane that only Spiritomb, and only Cynthia as consequence, may be the the only ones to take down the rat. It makes sense Cynthia would prioritize taking Pikachu out of the picture as soon as possible. She's the only one who personally knows him and knows what a monster it can be after all.
Hopefully Sirfetch will get some of the spotlight here. It needs it and deserves it. The chances of Lucario getting 3KOs or something dumb like that are also looking high though so who knows.
My bias aside, this all feels super weird. If you didn't know any better you'd think this is the Finals of the tournament considering the amount of focus Cynthia's getting and the amount of hype the match is getting. Genuinely shocked and surprised at how Cynthia is actually being treated with respect considering how PM's been with what the rest of the M8 has gotten and its obsession with the invincible, unbeatable, undefeated, unrivaled, perfect Champion Dande-sama.
Against my better judgment, I'm getting a little excited about this fight. I really hope that the miracle happens and it does deliver at the end of the day.
Sham
npc
Well things aren’t always black and white and perhaps they genuinely didn’t put much attention on shilling BW on accident and it was miss step. Honestly don’t care that much for Trip but the other rivals were pretty cool in that series.
Poor Cilan :/. Hopefully BW gets more love during the next series because we got crumbs.
AuraChannelerChris
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If anything, anime!BW was ironically, extremely black and white with its rather obvious themes.
charchar56
Well-Known Member
so are people still going to say Leon is way stronger than Cynthia, or is that argument dead now? lol Guess he's taking this match more seriously since he's G-maxing ZardAccording to the stats shown in the promo video
Ash
Attack: 5/5
Defense: 3/5
Speed: 5/5
Strategy: 2/5
Experience: 2/5
Unpredictability: 5/5
Total: 22/30
Cynthia:
Attack: 5/5
Defense: 5/5
Speed: 4/5
Strategy: 5/5
Experience: 5/5
Unpredictability: 3/5
Total: 27/30
Leon:
Attack: 5/5
Defense: 5/5
Speed: 5/5
Strategy: 4/5
Experience: 4/5
Unpredictability: 4/5
Total: 27/30
Diantha:
Attack: 4/5
Defense: 5/5
Speed: 4/5
Strategy: 5/5
Experience: 4/5
Unpredictability: 4/5
Total: 26/30
I like that Cynthia's two weakest stats (Speed and Unpredictability) are ones Ash excels in
janejane6178
Kaleido Star FOREVER in my heart <3
What a honor for Diantha to be in the top final 5According to the stats shown in the promo video
Ash
Attack: 5/5
Defense: 3/5
Speed: 5/5
Strategy: 2/5
Experience: 2/5
Unpredictability: 5/5
Total: 22/30
Cynthia:
Attack: 5/5
Defense: 5/5
Speed: 4/5
Strategy: 5/5
Experience: 5/5
Unpredictability: 3/5
Total: 27/30
Leon:
Attack: 5/5
Defense: 5/5
Speed: 5/5
Strategy: 4/5
Experience: 4/5
Unpredictability: 4/5
Total: 27/30
Diantha:
Attack: 4/5
Defense: 5/5
Speed: 4/5
Strategy: 5/5
Experience: 4/5
Unpredictability: 4/5
Total: 26/30
I like that Cynthia's two weakest stats (Speed and Unpredictability) are ones Ash excels in
Amazing
Kalos forever
Kameinu
Arooo!
I totally agree on the Cynthia and Diantha tidbits and interaction. Them having longstanding friendship that Cynthia would tell Diantha her intent to retire is pretty neat.
And am I the only one not surprised by the idea of her retiring? To me it makes perfect sense for her character. At the point in her career the anime has introduced her to us she seems very experienced and tenured, she’s basically at the top of the battle scene and has taken an interest in mentoring and supporting the next generation and also has other interests and ambitions outside of the battle sport. It makes sense she would consider retirement, specially to pursue other interests. I just hope they don’t backpedal on it all for the intent of cheap drama. Shouldn’t had even brought the idea up if that’s the case.
And at this point I’m convinced she just really must like her Gastrodon….it’s always come of as the most “jobber” of her mons to me. And I think that idea of her really liking it is really cute.
Im just going to enjoy what I can. I’m surprised by all the little reveals they’re doing with her and it’s pretty nice so far. I enjoy when they add to the characters like this.
AuraChannelerChris
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They made Kukui and Burnet unrelated until they married and immediately got a child, whereas they actually don't have a child in the games. They rushed out of their limits with those two.
Sham
npc
Honestly I don’t even think they’re doing it which is why I deleted it because why put so much thought into something that’s not happening.
The kid is different than a regional Champion. They’re not gonna have an anime character replace Cynthia and the games don’t reflect that
The reason why they got a slide with Steven and Iris is because their game incarnations reflected that.
On another fans. Diantha fans are eating good because at least she’s forcing Leon to use GMAX Charizard
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sutellakiara
Shirona, my beloved...
Guess using your own logic Ash has zero chance against Cynthia lmao.
DragonKahuna
Dragon Master
We need a spin-off anime with young Cynthia as the main protagonist and Volkner and Flint as her traveling companions and Cyrus, Diantha and Alder as her rivals.
sutellakiara
Shirona, my beloved...
Now that there's a canon kid Cynthia design let's some Koraidon/Miraidon plot contrivance de-age her after she retires and she becomes the Paldea Anime MC and goes on the Treasure Hunt thing.
charchar56
Well-Known Member
ummm on paper (i.e. based on these stats) yes. Obviously the main character who's been portrayed as the underdog the entire series is going to shake things up here, that wasn't my point. People have been speculating that Leon is way stronger than Cynthia, but the writers clearly intend to show that they are relatively close in strength overall
Here is my prediction for the episode
Ash vs cythnia
-gastrodon vs Dragonite
Dragonite recalled
-gastrodon vs gengar
Gengar
-Spiritomb vs gengar
Spiritomb
-spiritomb vs Dragonite
Spiritomb
-spiritomb vs pikachu
Pikachu
-roserade vs Pikachu
Roserade
-roserade vs dracovish
Dracovish
- togekiss vs dracovish
Dracovish recalled
-Togekiss vs Lucario
Lucario
-milotic vs Lucario
Lucario recalled
-milotic vs dracovish
Milotic
- milotic vs sirfetchd
Tie
- mega garchomp vs mega Lucario
Mega Lucario
Tell me what you think of this
Ash vs cythnia
-gastrodon vs Dragonite
Dragonite recalled
-gastrodon vs gengar
Gengar
-Spiritomb vs gengar
Spiritomb
-spiritomb vs Dragonite
Spiritomb
-spiritomb vs pikachu
Pikachu
-roserade vs Pikachu
Roserade
-roserade vs dracovish
Dracovish
- togekiss vs dracovish
Dracovish recalled
-Togekiss vs Lucario
Lucario
-milotic vs Lucario
Lucario recalled
-milotic vs dracovish
Milotic
- milotic vs sirfetchd
Tie
- mega garchomp vs mega Lucario
Mega Lucario
Tell me what you think of this
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