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August 26th: PM2019 122 - The Semifinals I: Sweep

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GLTSRY

Sorry not sorry for my smugness
the writers clearly intend to show that they are relatively close in strength overall
I wouldn’t say that some obviously hastily created stat sheets with stats like “unpredictability” that were made for a low budget, last minute filler episode to hype up the upcoming battles while saving budget are an accurate representation of the clear intention of the writers.

Diantha also is very, very close to Leon according to the stats but we know how that will turn out.

The anime clearly shows that Leon is in his own league, a couple of levels above even champions.
 
JN Ash looks like trash. It’s why I can’t take him seriously and part of the reason why I hate JN. Like it would be so much better if we had the XY art style
 

Bortgreen

NEXT TIME: Sayonara, Satoshi..
JN Ash looks like trash. It’s why I can’t take him seriously and part of the reason why I hate JN. Like it would be so much better if we had the XY art style
I agree XY Ash would fit a series with battles of that high of a level(in universe), but I don't think JN Ash looks bad at all personally
Journeys might have its problems but the artstyle isn't one of them to me

Btw I was going to have funny SM Ash as pfp until next week but the new preview had some cool shots so going to use them instead
 

ShadowForce720

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Here is my prediction for the episode
Ash vs cythnia
-gastrodon vs Dragonite
Dragonite recalled
-gastrodon vs gengar
Gengar
-Spiritomb vs gengar
Spiritomb
-spiritomb vs Dragonite
Spiritomb
-spiritomb vs pikachu
Pikachu
-roserade vs Pikachu
Roserade
-roserade vs dracovish
Dracovish
- togekiss vs dracovish
Dracovish recalled
-Togekiss vs Lucario
Lucario
-milotic vs Lucario
Lucario recalled
-milotic vs dracovish
Milotic
- milotic vs sirfetchd
Tie
- mega garchomp vs mega Lucario
Mega Lucario
Tell me what you think of this
The scoreboard was basically shown in the preview so basically this the confirmed order of Pokémon they send out on both sides:

Ash:
1.Dragonite
2.Gengar
3.Pikachu
4.Dracovish
5.Sirfetch’d
6.Lucario

Cynthia:
1.Spiritomb
2.Roserade
3.Togekiss
4.Gastrodon
5.Garchomp
6.Milotic

So basically going off my prediction these is how it breaks down confirmation wise:

The stuff in Bold is basically confirmed, while the stuff that is italicized is safe to assume.

Dragonite vs Spiritomb: Dragonite is forced to be recalled
Gengar vs Spiritomb: Spritiomb is forced to be recalled
Gengar vs Roserade: Gengar is forced to be recalled
Dragonite vs Roserade: Roserade is forced to be recalled
Dragonite vs Togekiss: Dragonite is forced to be recalled
Gengar vs Togekiss: Togekiss is forced to be recalled
Gengar vs Gastrodon: Gastrodon
Dragonite vs Gastrodon: Dragonite
Dragonite vs Togekiss: Togekiss
Pikachu vs Togekiss: Togekiss is forced to be recalled
Pikachu vs Spiritomb: Draw
Dracovish vs Roserade
: Dracovish
Dracovish vs Garchomp: Garchomp and recalled
Sirfetch’d vs Milotic: Sirfetch’d
Sirfetch’d vs Togekiss : Togekiss
Lucario vs Togekiss: Lucario
Lucario
<- - ->Mega Lucario vs Garchomp <- - -> Mega Garchomp: Mega Lucario

Also it is confirmed that by the time Pikachu had drawer with Spiritomb that Gastrodon, Dragonite, and Gengar have all been knocked out.
 

Sham

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I might be a minority but since queen Lillie can’t fight Leon, I’m glad the Diantha match looks interesting.

The GMAX Charizard vs Mega Gardevior looks like hype despite it probably be half of the episode. At the very least Diantha is making him use his gimmick so hopefully it’s not a complete job.

Her using Goodra is eh
 

lolipiece

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I'm not sure why people expected or wanted them to just spoil the M8 matchups in the Ash vs Paul battle.
 

masdog

What is the airspeed of an unladen Swellow?
The "sweeps" refers to Leon being overwhelmed by Diantha's beauty and perfection
May-December romance in the works? What do we call this ship?

JN Ash looks like trash. It’s why I can’t take him seriously and part of the reason why I hate JN. Like it would be so much better if we had the XY art style
You’re becoming a broken record…
 

KibaLG8

Well-Known Member since the DP Series.
I don’t they’ll ever replace a Champion with a non Champion in all honestly that we don’t know. Lillie will be the new Champion

If they do retire her that would be the biggest lol in the history of the series.

The odds of Lillie being Champion is if everybody else died & she was the only one left.
 

AARTX

Dead inside…
On another note, looks like Alain/Iris/Lance/Steven really left since Leon and Diantha are the only participants watching the battle. Another L for Journeys.
At this point, I don’t think the companions will be returning for the Leon V Ash fight.

Delia not being there in person was enough proof already
 

AJ97

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At this point, I don’t think the companions will be returning for the Leon V Ash fight.

Delia not being there in person was enough proof already
Not necessary.

1) The Companions could be shown watching the match on Television. It just wouldn't make sense for Cilain, May, Max etc to be left out when they went out of the way to show characters like Tyson, Katie & Morisson.

2) There will be a gap between the semi-finals and finals. Considering how big of a deal the match is, I can totally see even Delia, Oak, Tracy, etc flying to Wyndon for the match.
 

Xeogran

Kyoya Gaen
I don't think the anime is allowed to retire a Game Champion from their position, feels too big of a change to do. Cynthia will 100% stay, otherwise count me surprised.
 

Blood Red

1996-2023
According to the stats shown in the promo video

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Ash

Attack: 5/5
Defense: 3/5
Speed: 5/5
Strategy: 2/5
Experience: 2/5
Unpredictability: 5/5

Total: 22/30

Cynthia:

Attack: 5/5
Defense: 5/5
Speed: 4/5
Strategy: 5/5
Experience: 5/5
Unpredictability: 3/5

Total: 27/30

Leon:

Attack: 5/5
Defense: 5/5
Speed: 5/5
Strategy: 4/5
Experience: 4/5
Unpredictability: 4/5

Total: 27/30

Diantha:

Attack: 4/5
Defense: 5/5
Speed: 4/5
Strategy: 5/5
Experience: 4/5
Unpredictability: 4/5

Total: 26/30

I like that Cynthia's two weakest stats (Speed and Unpredictability) are ones Ash excels in
So the character whose whole deal used to be 'unconventional strategy' is now...worse than middling at strategy? Gee, no wonder this show is garbage!
 
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GLTSRY

Sorry not sorry for my smugness
So the character whose whole deal used to be 'unconventional strategy' is now...worse than middling at strategy? Gee, no wonder this show is garbage!
Don‘t take those stats serious. According to them Diantha is just one point behind Leon, but we all know how their match will turn out.
 

AJ97

Well-Known Member
So the character whose whole deal used to be 'unconventional strategy' is now...worse than middling at strategy? Gee, no wonder this show is garbage!
I think "Strategy" in the context of the stats, means battling by the Book and making rational strategic decisions.
Like taking advantage of type advantages, teaching good coverage moves to your team, exploiting traditional battle mechanics.

The kind of "Strategy" one would utilize while playing the games.

Ash has never been someone who obsessed over things like this. He's the guy who'd send out a fire type against a water type and expect Pikachu to take out a Ground Type.
 

Speed22

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So the character whose whole deal used to be 'unconventional strategy' is now...worse than middling at strategy? Gee, no wonder this show is garbage!
My response to these stats.

It's pretty much inevitable that Ash will lose to Leon, they gave Cynthia his character arc, and Leon lost to Eternatus already. So the story is really going to be: Leon is the strongest trainer, and no one will ever be able to challenge him.
 

Blood Red

1996-2023
Don‘t take those stats serious. According to them Diantha is just one point behind Leon, but we all know how their match will turn out.
Yeah, I don't think these stats will actually dictate match results, but I just think it's rather unfortunate that Ash is being treated as some sort of idiot, when realistically they could've taken points out of all those stats to give him 5/5 Strategy and Unpredictability.
 
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