AuraChannelerChris
Easygoing Luxray.
Whoops. I only used the episode pictures but probably didn't see it.
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August 30th: SM88 - Lunala VS UB: BLACK! A Battle at Full Moon!!
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Eh, no big. It only appeared as a slight blink-and-you'll-miss-it cameo.
Almighty Zard
He has returned.
it just strikes me as odd that Jessie and James wouldn't be involved...then again Bewear probably won't let them given how dangerous Necrozma is.
i2i
Big Bad Wolf
That's how I'm interpreting the scene.
I think the only thing that machine accomplished was dispersing the clouds so they find that Ultra wormhole.
Twilight-Kun
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They also used up their entire allotment of Z-moves, unless they get some kind of Ultra Aura boost while fighting Necrozma, which seems unlikely, but DEM seem to be a recurring theme in the SM anime, so...
AuraChannelerChris
Easygoing Luxray.
playerking
Sick of dealing with idiots.
It was mentioned that the clouds caused this. The adults looked a bit happier after they were cleared. The Ultra Aura thing may still be causing problems, but I think the adults should be fine now, unless Necrozma creates another problem that makes people feel worse, as was shown in this episode's preview.
Twilight-Kun
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They theorized that the depression was caused by the lowering levels of Ultra Aura, not the fact adults need natural sunlight to function
Also, if you need Ultra Aura in order to pull off Z-moves, how were they able to use them in Kanto, where I'm reasonably certain Ultra Necrozma has never set foot?
Also, if you need Ultra Aura in order to pull off Z-moves, how were they able to use them in Kanto, where I'm reasonably certain Ultra Necrozma has never set foot?
General in the whole anime you mean. SM's guilty of it but it's hardly exceptional about it. (Helped by a lot of the stories being mundane enough to not even require a DEM I'll admit.)
Given how little they use them and how bland their face offs are with the twerps are now, I almost feel like the writers are trying to faze the TRio out again. I mean, it likely won't work even if it's true (they failed to during BW already) but this series is perhaps the most blatant case of the show venting that they have no place in this story. Bewear almost feels like an author avatar telling them to keep their interfering butts out of the bigger picture.
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What is DEM?
Deus Ex Machina. Basically whenever the protagonists are in a bad spot, and win by some abrupt miracle rather than their own competence.
The anime has done this from day one, with miracle evolutions and move learns and other interruptions in the large majority of situations where a big climax isn't completely one sided in the twerps' favour, to the point you can tell just from when the villain is allowed to get in a single hit that the twerps aren't gonna win on their own.
Yeah it's annoying, and SM has done it bad too, but I struggle to remember much any big villain plots throughout the entire anime where Ash and co won just by being competent and persistent with no cosmic help. My expectations of them have always been low, which is why I'm glad SM at least got the point to make villain plots the exception rather than the rule.
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Yeah. But I dont really see TF as a DEM. Necrozma will regain its true form and maybe they will calm it down because TR cant catch or control it
Mega Altaria
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Maybe Necrozma is just hungry for more light as it has lost the light from many years ago. Maybe the Z-Crystals the gang would have would respond to Necrozma for some strange reason and that gives them a hint to use their Z-Crystals to calm Necrozma down.
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Maybe yes
Mega Altaria
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Yeah. Thinking about it, Necrozma's light is highly linked to Z-Power so using the Z-Power from the Z-Crystals to restore Necrozma to its former glory would work.
Maybe, though it still kinda had that formula of an outside force stepping in and doing the twerps job for them effortlessly after they failed, even if it was maybe a better less predictably flowed example.
I don't remember a lot of villain battles that didn't end up just two sides trading curbstomps through plot convenience really, ironically BW TR were perhaps the most likely to have even handed battles where Ash just soldiered through, and even then cop outs did happen.
I can appreciate that the Ultra Guardians up until this point have put into situations they have to win solo by being clever though, even if they were more mundane face-offs.
Now That you mention it now I’m starting to worry that they’ll actually do that.
Mega Altaria
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It'll be likely we'll see Moongeist Beam here considering it's Lunala's signature move. I just want to see it's animation and either we have Lunala using it on Necrozma or Dawn Wings Necrozma attacking Nebby with it.
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