Cain Nightroad
Daydreaming
what more compensation could they possibly get? we can't just throw money at them, for sure.
True, yet it seems a bit pathetic in the face of eighty years of no apology.
what more compensation could they possibly get? we can't just throw money at them, for sure.
Of course the Australian Government should apologise. Of course those affected by it deserve compensation. If I never knew my mother and father because I was taken away just because I was of a particular race, and put in an institution, I would be pretty upset, and I would want compensation.
Quite simply, no child deserves to be taken away and institutionalised because they are of one particular race. It's disgusting. As Australians, we have to sit down and come to terms with the fact that we've treated the Aboriginal population very badly. Refusing to apologise for what we've done on the grounds that we don't want to compensate for it is just pathetic. It's the moral imperative to admit we were wrong, get over with it and look for a bipartisan solution with the aboriginal elders.
And BlAcKyBoI, please, the best thing to do in any situation is for both sides to try get over their hatred of one another and reconcile. Two wrongs don't make a right.
I think 'we' refers to the Government and the parliament. They DID do something, and caused a lot of pain to the Aboriginal peoples, so it doesn't really matter if 'we' didn't do anything, it's kinda apologizing on behalf of the people that did.Now I agree with all that you said, but your usage of "we" ....
"WE" did nothing, there aren't even many alive that caused this harm. Why should "we" say sorry?
Naturally I believe that it is right to apologise, but you kept saying how "we" did all this when we didn't...
I think 'we' refers to the Government and the parliament. They DID do something, and caused a lot of pain to the Aboriginal peoples, so it doesn't really matter if 'we' didn't do anything, it's kinda apologizing on behalf of the people that did.
Well, eighty years after the assimilation project began, I can't see how they expect an apology to compensate. I hope they are at least doing something else apologetic, as a "sorry" is worth nothing. Zip. Zilch. Zero. That's like Americans apologizing to Africans and African-Americans for enslaving their people - apologizing today. That's over a hundred years with nothing, and you expect forgiveness? In my opinion, the apology is a pathetic compensation for the situation, but at least it shows that they are starting to feel remorse...for the first time in eighty years.
Vantage said:I love the way BlAcKyBoI is blaming us for the problems of Aboriginal people. How is it our fault that most members of your race are drunken assholes who take every opportunity to leech off the government? Aboriginals get themselves into alcoholism. They buy the beer, not us.
Aboriginal children in this day and age have every opportunity to get a good education. Schools ARE avalible to them. Their parents simply don't send them there. The life expectancy gap? That's most likely due to alcohol, drugs and poor living conditions. Again, all things which they've done to THEMSELVES.
You people are given free education, healthcare and homes. And we're the BAD guys? Pfft.
Also, the people who were involved in the stolen generation genuinely thought they were doing the right thing for the most part. This was back in a time when Aboriginals were, indeed, not fully understood. The logic behind it was that taking them from their homes and putting them in beter living conditions would be beneficial. That said, the Stolen Generation was indeed an attrocity and the apology was needed. Compensation? Only a reasonable amount (read: not millions), and only for those directly involved.
Conquistador, when I say "we" I'm generally referring to the Australian government, not the Australian people (although it was the Australian people who voted for those parliaments). I could type out "Australian Government" every time but that is a little redundant.
I love the way BlAcKyBoI is blaming us for the problems of Aboriginal people. How is it our fault that most members of your race are drunken assholes who take every opportunity to leech off the government? Aboriginals get themselves into alcoholism. They buy the beer, not us.
Aboriginal children in this day and age have every opportunity to get a good education. Schools ARE avalible to them. Their parents simply don't send them there. The life expectancy gap? That's most likely due to alcohol, drugs and poor living conditions. Again, all things which they've done to THEMSELVES.
You people are given free education, healthcare and homes. And we're the BAD guys? Pfft.
Also, the people who were involved in the stolen generation genuinely thought they were doing the right thing for the most part. This was back in a time when Aboriginals were, indeed, not fully understood. The logic behind it was that taking them from their homes and putting them in beter living conditions would be beneficial. That said, the Stolen Generation was indeed an attrocity and the apology was needed. Compensation? Only a reasonable amount (read: not millions), and only for those directly involved.
At least my family never did.
To be fair you hardly seem like you're living in the gutter...
Well even though I'm a rudd supporter i'm not a supporter of the apology.
No, i'm not a racist p****. I just think that the aboriginies have caused some of their own problems, even though we stopped and have obviously repented. As someone before me said, Australia has offered them schooling and they can take it whenever they want, but do they? No, they just live their lives waiting for their turn to sue the government. Last night when I was watching 'Today Tonight' some 50 year old aboriginal dude just got 3 million dollars and used it to buy a car, then claims ON CAMERA that he enjoyed living with the white family. What the hell?
It also seems that the aboriginies used the apology to gain international pity.
CNN and FOX news in the U.S broadcast the apology as news.
Some might say Australia just set an international standered. We didn't, we just apologised to a race we've already stopped hating and has full educational (and other) support.
Look, I don't hate aboriginies, and there are many out there who are very good, hardworking people who don't leech off events like this to gain pity. There are two white twins in my class who are a 3rd aboriginal (granted I only found out on the day), and they're great too.
So that said, I end this statement.
No matter what your opinion on "Sorry Day", you've got to admit that seeing the looks on those faces, those people who had been through so much... no matter your stance on the issue, no matter what your reasons are, you have to admit that the apology was worth it. It was worth it, even though not all of the stolen generation were unhappy and abused. It was worth it, even if you think Aborigines created their own problems.
It was worth it to see those people's lives acknowledged. Isn't that reason enough?
waste of space,what sort of a heartless person are you. ****!! How are they hurting you,and from what i read your saying all Aboriginals arem the same,my cursin is half case and his dads full Aboriginal and he was a builder and had a house,lived his life well.Oh wow, I never knew! Thanks for the tip, m8!
It's not so much what I believe, I'm merely going by what historians believe. They were trapped in the lowest echelon of society, and their land would have been snatched by someone eventually if Captain Cook never discovered Australia because they were stupid and weak. Go read some Australian history books and it'll tell you the exact same thing in a different context.
The reason why I don't like them now is because they're a waste of space. They don't try to become educated. They don't try to make a life for themselves. They don't do anything except sit in Darwin or where-the-hell-ever thinking that they're better than everyone because they're the "FOUNDERS OF THE LAND." Toss them into contemporary Australian society with some cash and I guarantee they won't make any use out of it.
We can though. Because we're cool.