Baby Pokemon

[RaikousThunder]

I was reading through the Jynx ep speculation thread and people were talking about Baby pokemon. And im wondering what do the people on this board consider to be 'Baby' Pokemon? I think there are really two ways of looking at it. There are pokemon who are young, like newly hatched pokemon or low leveled ones. Then there are new pre evolutions that have came out ex: Bonsly, Munchlax, Manene, Tamanta, Azurill, Elekid etc. Personally i dont see Munchlax as a Baby, especially May's. Is it just cause its a pre-evolution that people say its a baby? Because really Munchlax is like any other first form of a two form set like Taillow, Staryu,, and Wooper. And pokemon that have been given new evolutions, do we consider the old first forms as Babies? I know i dont think Scyther is a baby or Onix. So im really just interested to see what other people think of this.

I put it in spoilers since the newly released pre-evos will most likely be talked about. If this has ben done before just close it i guess.

 

[The Great Butler]

'Baby Pokémon' is used to refer to a new pre-evolved form of an existing Pokémon. Snorlax is first generation and Munchlax is fourth, making Munchlax a Baby Pokémon.

 

[CyberCubed]

I do agree that sometimes people blur the line between new pre-evolutions (like Munchlax) and other infant/young/baby Pokemon (Phanpy, Bonsly, Squirtle, Eevee)

For all we know Munchlax could be as old as Combusken. There's really nothing that indicates that it's young, or even a baby. But people stereotype it as one since it's a new pre-evo, for whatever reason.

 

[The Benmeister]

There are obvious babies, there are less obvious babies, and there are miscategoried babies. However to make it easier on everyone else, everyone just bundles them into the same category, as the people who complain about the surge of babies don't really care if they're a mature newly-hatched or sensible pre-vo. Although there's no doubt that Eevee, Bonsly and Squirtle are among the realms of the young.

 

[V Faction]

Technical term: Pre-Evo forms. They don't equate to basic stage Pokemon because they get vastly/marginally different sets than their evolved form. That, and because they're introduced a generation later.

Baby Pokemon, or young Pokemon, are the newly hatched ones or obvious ones like Eevee and Squirtle.

Both can be annoying and it doesn't help that May has an over aubdance of them.

And make no mistake, Pre-Evos ARE young Pokemon, though they may not look like it.

 

[Geki]

Baby Pokemon are pre-evos. Pokemon that are regular, and that were hatched, don't fall under the category of ''Baby'' to me.

 

[Robotboy]

I agree with CyberCubed -- we really don't know how old Munchlax really is. It's fact that Eevee is a hatchling and Squirtle was young enough to be selected as a starter, but Munchlax is up in the air, I guess. At any rate we can at least assume it's the second-oldest Pokémon May currently carries around with her.

 

[intergalactic platypus]

Baby pokemon can be easily defined as a pokemon that can only be found by hatching an egg (rules out Wynaut then...), which means Munchlax will be included

 

[JazzJazz]

Is the whole idea of "baby" pokemon based off of the TCG anyway?

 

[RaikousThunder]

I guess in the games Baby pokemon are those that can only be obtained by an egg cause at that point they really are babies. Its too bad that most Pre-Evolved forms are only obtainable by eggs. I'd like to be able to catch some of them like Magby and Elekid in the wild. I guess having to get them by breeding adds more to the game to fill up the pokedex. Munchlax doesnt seem like a Baby pokemon to me though. Guess its all how you look at it.

 

[Steve]

There is a clear-cut difference between baby pokemon and Pre-Evo pokemon. Prevo's are just pokemon revealed later than their evo's - Magby ,Pichu, Elekid, Smoochum, Wynaut, Tamanta, Munchlax, etc. Babies are newly hatched pokemon, which is clearly different than prevo's. You could have a baby Wynaut and an adult Wobbufet, but at the same time you could have an adult (older) Wynaut and a baby Wobbufet.

 

[PDL]

another question that can be brought up is "When can a "baby" pokemon not be considered a baby anymore?"

Evolution? no... evolution is mostly brought upon when pokemon is under stress or determination, or other factors, especially when it doesn't evolve through leveling up like in the games...

pokemon probably grow at a different rates then human beings would.

This would probably explain how advanced Eevee is for it's chronological age, maybe Eevees mature fast, and Eevee's now strong enough to fend for itself if it had to.

 

[wobbanut]

I usually define pokemon that evolve through taming as being baby pokemon- togepi, cleffa, pichu, wynaut, and the like. I make exceptions for umbreon, espeon, chansey, and of course crobat, however. I don't know, that's generally how I define baby pokemon. Pokemon who level up through experience don't count.

Actually, I guess I would also consider baby pokemon new pokemon that are previous evolutions of existing pokemon. Munchlax and Manene would definitely fall in that category. I can't consider them anything else until we learn how they evolve (taming or experience).

 

[Rudoku]

I usually define pokemon that evolve through taming as being baby pokemon- togepi, cleffa, pichu, wynaut, and the like.

Wynaut evolves at level 15 whether it likes you or wants to kill you.

 

[IrkenAdolescent]

Remember, guys: Show =/= Game.

Baby Pokémon in the show might not evolve by level, or affection, or whatever, but instead evolve by age.

Think about the Deoxyz movie, for example. The Munchlax in that movie didn't battle at all, and no one really liked it, but it still evolved. Some baby Pokémon in the show mightevolve differently from Pokémon in the game, probably by age rather than experience or affection. Brock's Bonsly might evolve by affection, while May's Munchlax (If it were ever to evolve), might evolve by age.

Now, speaking of "baby" base stage Pokémon (Squirtle, for example), that just indicates it is newly hatched, and will take the same amount of time and effort to evolve as any other base stage Pokémon. There is a difference between an actual Baby Pokémon and a newly hatched base stage Pokémon, although you could have a "baby" Baby (A newly hatched Elekid, for example).

 

[Robotboy]

Brock's Bonsly might evolve by affection, while May's Munchlax (If it were ever to evolve), might evolve by age.

The only problem I have with the "evolve by affection" idea is that, if Sudowoodo, Snorlax, and Mr. Mime could all evolve by affection before... why didn't they have these baby forms in the 2nd or 3rd generations? :/

Though I can see where you're coming from. I mean, a perfect example of this is Azurill. Not only does it evolve by happiness, but it also requires the Sea Incense to be held by its parent in order for an Azurill to be born, else it's born as a regular old Marill.

I guess the only real way we'll know about evolution of the new pre-evos is when the 4th gen is released.

 

[JazzJazz]

The only problem I have with the "evolve by affection" idea is that, if Sudowoodo, Snorlax, and Mr. Mime could all evolve by affection before... why didn't they have these baby forms in the 2nd or 3rd generations? :/

Forget about any inconsistencies with past generations... if you get hung up on these it can seriously limit the potential for future generations.

 

[Blazing Entei]

Baby pokemon are considered pre evolutions but they look more like babies...

 

[.Bambi.]

Umm...RaikousThunder, you're kind of contradicting yourself in your first post. First you include the likes of Manene and Elekid in the Baby Pokemon Category, then you go on to say Gonbe should be considered a first form because it only evolves once, and then it's at its final stage.

Wha? 0_0

This would probably explain how advanced Eevee is for it's chronological age, maybe Eevees mature fast, and Eevee's now strong enough to fend for itself if it had to.

This makes sense. Considering Eevee's main purpose is to evolve, I can see it developing quickly as a baby to be ready for evolution.

Think about the Deoxyz movie, for example. The Munchlax in that movie didn't battle at all, and no one really liked it, but it still evolved. Some baby Pokémon in the show mightevolve differently from Pokémon in the game, probably by age rather than experience or affection.

First off, no one knows whether Gonbe will evolve by affection like Azurill, or by level like Wynaut. It's really up in the air. Two, like has been said many times before, the only reason Gonbe evolved in Destiny Deoxys is to show that it actually does evolve into Snorlax. The End.

 

[IrkenAdolescent]

First off, no one knows whether Gonbe will evolve by affection like Azurill, or by level like Wynaut. It's really up in the air. Two, like has been said many times before, the only reason Gonbe evolved in Destiny Deoxys is to show that it actually does evolve into Snorlax. The End.

I'm not talking about how they evolve in the game, I'm talking about how they evolve in the show. you don't have get all moody on me.