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Banned from #SPP or #SPP-Wifi unfairly, post here. READ. THE. FIRST. POST!!!!

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Kirby

Kirby

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Session Start: Wed Jun 17 01:50:06 2009
Session Ident: nickname
[01:50] Session Ident: nickname (PurpleSurge, Kirby) (SPPGuest69@PurpleSurge-A43CCE7B.ca.astound.net)
[01:50] <nickname> I was contributing to the conversation... but you were unnecessarily making me change my username.
15[01:50] <Kirby> no I wasn't
[01:50] <nickname> Yes, Kirbu is not that confusing
[01:50] <nickname> It only became confusing when others began changing their usernames to "kirbi" or "kirbii"
15[01:50] <Kirby> It's too similar to my nam
[01:50] <nickname> With the intent to confuse
15[01:50] <Kirby> and you did it on purpose
[01:50] <nickname> No...
[01:51] <nickname> Kirbu is where my grandparents live...
[01:51] <nickname> It's a CITY
15[01:51] <Kirby> I don't really care
15[01:51] <Kirby> I am tired of being nice to you
[01:51] <nickname> It's a city in Estonia
15[01:51] <Kirby> You admit to liking to troll, it's not funny and it's incredibly annoying now
[01:51] <nickname> This is the same issue we had with orangina
[01:51] <nickname> And I wasn't trolling
15[01:52] <Kirby> the dawnfan thing is so annoying
15[01:52] <Kirby> how many times have I told you to stop?
[01:52] <nickname> Fine I'll stop
[01:52] <nickname> and if I do it again you can /akick
[01:52] <nickname> But threatening to ban?
15[01:52] <Kirby> I can't akick and
[01:52] <nickname> For a username that's "too close"
15[01:52] <Kirby> you said you'd stop before
[01:52] <nickname> is...
[01:52] <nickname> I did?
15[01:52] <Kirby> yea and then you said you liked to troll
[01:52] <nickname> Well this scenario was different because no matter what I get kicked
[01:52] <nickname> I just wanted the "Kirbu" username
[01:54] <nickname> Fine, if you want to ban, that's OK, I guess
[01:54] <nickname> How long does the ban last..?
15[01:55] <Kirby> or you could have changed it to a name and not trolled again
15[01:55] <Kirby> but hey
15[01:55] <Kirby> +1 on your part, you were banned for your stupid dawnfan gig
[01:56] <nickname> incidentally, can you show me where it says we can't have usernames that are too close to Ops?
15[02:01] <Kirby> 22) Do not change your name to something that looks really similar to the name of an Op and do not impersonate Ops.
15[02:01] <Kirby> Do not use a name which might make people think you are an Op. For example, do not use the name Erik_DestlerJr because an Op already uses a name similar to that.
15[02:01] <Kirby> http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=386017
15[02:01] <Kirby> number 22
[02:01] <nickname> Fine, fine
[02:02] <nickname> They should have a full rule list below the chat
[02:02] <nickname> Because I don't visit the forums, just the main site
[02:02] <nickname> You should recommend that to Serebii
15[02:02] <Kirby> I have
15[02:02] <Kirby> so have others
[02:02] <nickname> Because I was under the impression that the full rules were contained below the chat
15[02:02] <Kirby> he doesn't listen so we updated them on the site and link to them in the chat topic
[02:02] <nickname> Hmm
[02:02] <nickname> Oh well
[02:02] <nickname> So how long does a ban usually last?
[02:02] <nickname> 6-10 hours?
15[02:03] <Kirby> maybe, since you've had so many offenses now
[02:03] <nickname> It's cumulative?
15[02:03] <Kirby> uhm yes
[02:03] <nickname> Oh... because I had to wait about 72 hours for this one to wear off
15[02:03] <Kirby> we don't just akick people out of random, the bans get longer and longer until it leads to an akick
[02:03] <nickname> well more like 2 days
[02:04] <nickname> Oh, so that's how it works
[02:04] <nickname> So I'll probably get /akicked soon
[02:04] <nickname> :/
[02:04] <nickname> Serves me right, I guess
15[02:04] <Kirby> I don't know
[02:04] <nickname> lol
15[02:04] <Kirby> will you?
[02:04] <nickname> Maybe
[02:04] <nickname> The last ban lasted a looong time
15[02:04] <Kirby> it's up to you
[02:05] <nickname> I suppose it is
[02:06] <nickname> OH!
[02:06] <nickname> I just realized
[02:06] <nickname> I'm moving... so that means my ban will wear off!
[02:06] <nickname> Tomorrow!
[02:06] <nickname> Yesss
[02:06] <nickname> Does that qualify as "ban evasion" ?
15[02:07] <Kirby> usually yes
[02:12] <nickname> I guess I'll just never be "DawnFan" again
[02:12] <nickname> Cool
[02:12] <nickname> See ya Kirby
Session Close: Wed Jun 17 03:16:44 2009

This was a PM that took place between you and I last night, after your first offense of using a similar name to another member. You'd think after being told once not to do so, you wouldn't do it again, but alas, the following logs are from today.

[15:52] <@Kirby> Kirbu, change your name
[15:52] <EFG> Grass Knot on Swampert is devilish.
[15:52] <Catman> lol
[15:52] <Kirbu> Mixape carrying Close Combat can OHKO Blissey, Heatran, and Tryanitar on the switch
[15:52] <Bombsey> well secun don't get any help then
[15:52] <Caboose> ?
[15:52] <zeneth> im going to do my presentation now
[15:52] <PokeGuru> or on Hippowdown
[15:52] <zeneth> bye
[15:52] <Kirbu> And Snorlax assuming no stat-ups
[15:52] <PokeGuru> or Groudon and Kyogre
[15:52] <Secun> Kirbu's been trying to troll me this whole time. It's kinda lol-worthy
[15:52] <GhostAnime> mixape can OHKO them all regardless
[15:52] <Caboose> why would he have to change his name?
[15:52] <PokeGuru> it would
[15:52] <Bombsey> mixape
[15:52] <@Kirby> because it's in the rules to not have names similar to those already taken
[15:52] * Catman (SPPGuest40@FE1686E7.2F4D244F.D5150DCF.IP) Quit (Quit: Serebii.net Rules!!)
[15:53] <zeneth> kirbu your a noob
[15:53] <@Kirby> and I had this conversayion with him last night
[15:53] <PokeGuru> even without evs it should knock out super-effective big pokemon
[15:53] <Caboose> :O RULES
[15:53] * SPPGuest4227 (SPPGuest42@39C19B72.490FF5EF.EFA86FD8.IP) has joined #spp
[15:53] <@Kirby> -y+t
[15:53] <Kirbu> I mean, if you're carrying Close Combat the only thing you have to worry about are Bulky Waters
[15:53] * Skiks is now known as Decade
[15:53] <SPPGuest4227> ok im trying to catch registeel
[15:53] <Secun> Caboose: To avoid confusion. Mainly so people don't mistake them for actual ops.
[15:53] * Kirbu was kicked by Kirby (I said change it)

After I banned you, you came in with this...

[15:53] * SPPGuest4269 (SPPGuest42@PurpleSurge-A43CCE7B.ca.astound.net) has joined #spp
[15:53] <Nic> i used jirachi to weak him
[15:53] <Bombsey> yes caboose well done
[15:53] * SPPGuest4269 is now known as DawnFan
[15:53] * DawnFan is now known as Justkidding

Let's not forget you said you wouldn't be dawnfan anymore. Your attitude in general and the numerous complaints I've gotten about you in the chat from other members asking me point blank to ban you right now is enough to leave you banned. Your ban was fair, and I discussed it with the other ops (and even showed you what they said with permission from them to show you) and they also agree that your ban stays.
 
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sppchatuser

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Kirby said:
Session Start: Wed Jun 17 01:50:06 2009
Session Ident: nickname
[01:50] Session Ident: nickname (PurpleSurge, Kirby) (SPPGuest69@PurpleSurge-A43CCE7B.ca.astound.net)
[01:50] <nickname> I was contributing to the conversation... but you were unnecessarily making me change my username.
15[01:50] <Kirby> no I wasn't
[01:50] <nickname> Yes, Kirbu is not that confusing
[01:50] <nickname> It only became confusing when others began changing their usernames to "kirbi" or "kirbii"
15[01:50] <Kirby> It's too similar to my nam
[01:50] <nickname> With the intent to confuse
15[01:50] <Kirby> and you did it on purpose
[01:50] <nickname> No...
[01:51] <nickname> Kirbu is where my grandparents live...
[01:51] <nickname> It's a CITY
15[01:51] <Kirby> I don't really care
15[01:51] <Kirby> I am tired of being nice to you
[01:51] <nickname> It's a city in Estonia
15[01:51] <Kirby> You admit to liking to troll, it's not funny and it's incredibly annoying now
[01:51] <nickname> This is the same issue we had with orangina
[01:51] <nickname> And I wasn't trolling
15[01:52] <Kirby> the dawnfan thing is so annoying
15[01:52] <Kirby> how many times have I told you to stop?
[01:52] <nickname> Fine I'll stop
[01:52] <nickname> and if I do it again you can /akick
[01:52] <nickname> But threatening to ban?
15[01:52] <Kirby> I can't akick and
[01:52] <nickname> For a username that's "too close"
15[01:52] <Kirby> you said you'd stop before
[01:52] <nickname> is...
[01:52] <nickname> I did?
15[01:52] <Kirby> yea and then you said you liked to troll
[01:52] <nickname> Well this scenario was different because no matter what I get kicked
[01:52] <nickname> I just wanted the "Kirbu" username
[01:54] <nickname> Fine, if you want to ban, that's OK, I guess
[01:54] <nickname> How long does the ban last..?
15[01:55] <Kirby> or you could have changed it to a name and not trolled again
15[01:55] <Kirby> but hey
15[01:55] <Kirby> +1 on your part, you were banned for your stupid dawnfan gig
[01:56] <nickname> incidentally, can you show me where it says we can't have usernames that are too close to Ops?
15[02:01] <Kirby> 22) Do not change your name to something that looks really similar to the name of an Op and do not impersonate Ops.
15[02:01] <Kirby> Do not use a name which might make people think you are an Op. For example, do not use the name Erik_DestlerJr because an Op already uses a name similar to that.
15[02:01] <Kirby> http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=386017
15[02:01] <Kirby> number 22
[02:01] <nickname> Fine, fine
[02:02] <nickname> They should have a full rule list below the chat
[02:02] <nickname> Because I don't visit the forums, just the main site
[02:02] <nickname> You should recommend that to Serebii
15[02:02] <Kirby> I have
15[02:02] <Kirby> so have others
[02:02] <nickname> Because I was under the impression that the full rules were contained below the chat
15[02:02] <Kirby> he doesn't listen so we updated them on the site and link to them in the chat topic
[02:02] <nickname> Hmm
[02:02] <nickname> Oh well
[02:02] <nickname> So how long does a ban usually last?
[02:02] <nickname> 6-10 hours?
15[02:03] <Kirby> maybe, since you've had so many offenses now
[02:03] <nickname> It's cumulative?
15[02:03] <Kirby> uhm yes
[02:03] <nickname> Oh... because I had to wait about 72 hours for this one to wear off
15[02:03] <Kirby> we don't just akick people out of random, the bans get longer and longer until it leads to an akick
[02:03] <nickname> well more like 2 days
[02:04] <nickname> Oh, so that's how it works
[02:04] <nickname> So I'll probably get /akicked soon
[02:04] <nickname> :/
[02:04] <nickname> Serves me right, I guess
15[02:04] <Kirby> I don't know
[02:04] <nickname> lol
15[02:04] <Kirby> will you?
[02:04] <nickname> Maybe
[02:04] <nickname> The last ban lasted a looong time
15[02:04] <Kirby> it's up to you
[02:05] <nickname> I suppose it is
[02:06] <nickname> OH!
[02:06] <nickname> I just realized
[02:06] <nickname> I'm moving... so that means my ban will wear off!
[02:06] <nickname> Tomorrow!
[02:06] <nickname> Yesss
[02:06] <nickname> Does that qualify as "ban evasion" ?
15[02:07] <Kirby> usually yes
[02:12] <nickname> I guess I'll just never be "DawnFan" again
[02:12] <nickname> Cool
[02:12] <nickname> See ya Kirby
Session Close: Wed Jun 17 03:16:44 2009

This was a PM that took place between you and I last night, after your first offense of using a similar name to another member. You'd think after being told once not to do so, you wouldn't do it again, but alas, the following logs are from today.

[15:52] <@Kirby> Kirbu, change your name
[15:52] <EFG> Grass Knot on Swampert is devilish.
[15:52] <Catman> lol
[15:52] <Kirbu> Mixape carrying Close Combat can OHKO Blissey, Heatran, and Tryanitar on the switch
[15:52] <Bombsey> well secun don't get any help then
[15:52] <Caboose> ?
[15:52] <zeneth> im going to do my presentation now
[15:52] <PokeGuru> or on Hippowdown
[15:52] <zeneth> bye
[15:52] <Kirbu> And Snorlax assuming no stat-ups
[15:52] <PokeGuru> or Groudon and Kyogre
[15:52] <Secun> Kirbu's been trying to troll me this whole time. It's kinda lol-worthy
[15:52] <GhostAnime> mixape can OHKO them all regardless
[15:52] <Caboose> why would he have to change his name?
[15:52] <PokeGuru> it would
[15:52] <Bombsey> mixape
[15:52] <@Kirby> because it's in the rules to not have names similar to those already taken
[15:52] * Catman (SPPGuest40@FE1686E7.2F4D244F.D5150DCF.IP) Quit (Quit: Serebii.net Rules!!)
[15:53] <zeneth> kirbu your a noob
[15:53] <@Kirby> and I had this conversayion with him last night
[15:53] <PokeGuru> even without evs it should knock out super-effective big pokemon
[15:53] <Caboose> :O RULES
[15:53] * SPPGuest4227 (SPPGuest42@39C19B72.490FF5EF.EFA86FD8.IP) has joined #spp
[15:53] <@Kirby> -y+t
[15:53] <Kirbu> I mean, if you're carrying Close Combat the only thing you have to worry about are Bulky Waters
[15:53] * Skiks is now known as Decade
[15:53] <SPPGuest4227> ok im trying to catch registeel
[15:53] <Secun> Caboose: To avoid confusion. Mainly so people don't mistake them for actual ops.
[15:53] * Kirbu was kicked by Kirby (I said change it)

After I banned you, you came in with this...

[15:53] * SPPGuest4269 (SPPGuest42@PurpleSurge-A43CCE7B.ca.astound.net) has joined #spp
[15:53] <Nic> i used jirachi to weak him
[15:53] <Bombsey> yes caboose well done
[15:53] * SPPGuest4269 is now known as DawnFan
[15:53] * DawnFan is now known as Justkidding

Let's not forget you said you wouldn't be dawnfan anymore. Your attitude in general and the numerous complaints I've gotten about you in the chat from other members asking me point blank to ban you right now is enough to leave you banned. Your ban was fair, and I discussed it with the other ops (and even showed you what they said with permission from them to show you) and they also agree that your ban stays.
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Let me get this straight- the person reviewing my ban complaint is the person who banned me? That hardly seems appropriate.

Furthermore, I'm sure the other Ops agreed with you after hearing your side of the story- Perhaps after they have read my version of the events they would think differently, and maybe reevaluate the ban.

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Cynthia said:
The rules are linked to you every time you join the room, and you have been repeatedly disruptive under the nick "dawnfan" by posting inappropriate comments about your attraction to the character and several inappropriate remarks reguarding the character may as well. You were asked more than once not to use a certain nickname by an operator, and you refused to comply and then argued with that operator about it.

The ban appears to be appropriate in being issued for the time being, once you are unbanned I would HIGHLY recommend avoiding either of the nicks in the future and attempt to be more appropriate in your conversations
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I suppose it's my fault for not noticing the rules at the top, and I apologize for that.

I still have an issue with this however; I was asked not to use the nickname by the operator TWICE, and I complied BOTH TIMES. Banning me for using the nickname "DawnFan" is unacceptable- The username itself is not against the rules, but the activity that had been attributed to the username in the past was against the rules. I complied with the rules and changed my username BOTH TIMES that I was asked, as per the rules and as such I don't believe I should have been banned.
 
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Reno

Reno

so adorable...
You were asked to change your name from DawnFan as you were causing problems.

You changed it to Kirbu is some attempt to be funny.

You said you wouldn't use DawnFan again because you used that name to cause problems.

You used it.

You then had attitude with changing your name back to DawnFan and then to JustKidding.

Legit ban in my opinion.

Let me get this straight- the person reviewing my ban complaint is the person who banned me? That hardly seems appropriate.
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Hardly. In fact, it gives a better insight into why they banned you.

PS: I still agree with Kirby even after reading your argument.
 
Kirby

Kirby

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The whole point in posting here is to have a multitude of ops review your argument. And look, two ops and one mod reviewed it and 2/3 agree with me even after seeing your story. The third one doesn't count as it's me agreeing with myself lolol...
 
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TowerTycoon_S_a_c_h_i_n_

Trainer Sachin
Excuse me if there is anyone with a kind soul.
please help me. When i put in to go to wifi chat i get an error message stating serebiinetchat or something like that under that it says publisher unknown and under that it says windows will not let this program go thru for safety reasons and i dont know why.wifi chat use to work.
and one more thing can u give me instructions on how to set up mirc for serebii chat wifi
thank you
 
Kirby

Kirby

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Staff member
Admin
This isn't an irc help topic, it's a topic dedicated to unfair bans. You need to read the first post before posting here.

Go to this topic for your problem.
 
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HGSSJiMmY

New Member
I got banned, i was looking for a pikachu coloured pichu and someone said that they would trade if i got an azure flute, i didn't know what it was so i asked and then got kicked.
Chatroom: WIFI
Name: HGSSJiMmY
What I said: Has anybody got an azure flute?
Date: 20th June 2009
Time: Not sure around 7.15 GMT
 
Zero Nexus

Zero Nexus

Stand up, go for it
I got banned simply for saying Arceus. No, i didn't ASK for an Arceus. In fact, i actually said "It makes sense that we can't ask for Arceus" and i got banned just because Arceus was in my sentence.

I even tested something else later, i spelled it out by typing A-r-c-e-u-s and i got banned AGAIN! This is stupid, you can't get banned just for SAYING IT'S NAME...
 
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iCharmarc

Well-Known Member
Chatroom name:Main chat
Chatroom:#spp wifi and #spp
Operator in question: Raikuga and Erik_destler
Kick message:Erik_destler kick said "Go away" and Raikugas said "Text flodding"
Time and date:Friday June19th, 2009. Raikugas time was around 19:20 ish and Eriks was around 22:00's
Logs:i dont have any logs but i remeber what i exatcly said.

<iSTAYFRESHxiSTAYLEGIT> how long was my ban for/how do i find out how long it is?
<Erik_Destler> <iSTAYFRESHxiSTAYLEGIT> your so annoying or something like that
<iSTAYFRESHxiSTAYLEGIT> well ERIK im not the one text flooding the chat and using 100% so i dunno why your talking.
then BOOM! i get kicked and i now im still not about to go in.

and for Raikuga. i really did text flood to be perfectly honest. but ive bene banned for 3 hours now so i dont know wahts up with that.
 
Kirby

Kirby

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Admin
Zero Nexus said:
I got banned simply for saying Arceus. No, i didn't ASK for an Arceus. In fact, i actually said "It makes sense that we can't ask for Arceus" and i got banned just because Arceus was in my sentence.

I even tested something else later, i spelled it out by typing A-r-c-e-u-s and i got banned AGAIN! This is stupid, you can't get banned just for SAYING IT'S NAME...
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Actually you can, we have a script set up so that just saying the name gets you banned. Stupid or not that's the breaks.

I'm assuming that was in SPP-Wifi, as the regular chat from what I remember doesn't ban you for saying Arceus. In that case, saying the name with no intention of trading it or looking to obtain it (despite it being forbidden at the moment) is kind of spammish anyways...

The more you know~~~
 
Kirby

Kirby

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Staff member
Admin
Good lord you obviously failed to read the first post. First of all, don't double post, second of all, you're going to have to wait for Raikuga/Erik to read this as they banned you.

Don't spam again.
 
Zero Nexus

Zero Nexus

Stand up, go for it
Kirby said:
Actually you can, we have a script set up so that just saying the name gets you banned. Stupid or not that's the breaks.

I'm assuming that was in SPP-Wifi, as the regular chat from what I remember doesn't ban you for saying Arceus. In that case, saying the name with no intention of trading it or looking to obtain it (despite it being forbidden at the moment) is kind of spammish anyways...

The more you know~~~
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That's just...stupid...there's nothing wrong at all with just saying the name...
 
ellie

ellie

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Staff member
Admin
Just to add to the complaint about Arceus, anything that does not have to do with trading or battling is considered spam in #SPP-wifi, and is not allowed. And since you are not allowed to trade or battle with Arceus, there is no reason for you to be saying its name if you follow the rules.
 
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Wilton09

Veteran Trainer
i tried to log into the wi-fi chatroom today and then this came up:

"-hollywood.purplesurge.com- *** You are banned from PurpleSurge (Your host is listed in rbl.efnet.org. Please see rbl.efnet.org/?i=193.120.116.182 or email kline@purplesurge.com if you believe you were banned in error.) "

Ehhhhh.....wtf???
 
Kirby

Kirby

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Staff member
Admin
Read the first post, we cannot unban you from the server. You could always you know, follow the directions in the ban message to be unbanned. Next time, read the first post, is it REALLY that difficult? I promise, it has very important information in it that will help you faster then waiting for someone to reply...
 
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Dragonite

#SPP + #SPP-Wifi SOp
Wilton09 said:
i tried to log into the wi-fi chatroom today and then this came up:

"-hollywood.purplesurge.com- *** You are banned from PurpleSurge (Your host is listed in rbl.efnet.org. Please see rbl.efnet.org/?i=193.120.116.182 or email kline@purplesurge.com if you believe you were banned in error.) "

Ehhhhh.....wtf???
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Best do what it says and email kline@purplesurge.com. Not an SPP issue unfortunately, so we can't help. It's a network issue. Emailing them will help you get back on.
 
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