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Battle frontier team, help needed...

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Ghostly Robe

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UPDATED WITH POSSIBLE EV SPREADS*, AND FINISHED MOVESETS
I need advice on EV spreads and maybe natures.
Ok then, here we go:
*These are my first EV trained pokémon, yay.
Gardevoir @ Leftovers.
(HP 100, Def 88, Speed 40, Sp.Atk 200, Sp.Def 80)
Psychic
Calm Mind
Thunderbolt
Will o' Wisp

Slaking Lum Berry.
(HP 60, Atk 252, Def 44, Speed 120, Sp. Def 32)
Return
Focus Punch
Substitute
Bulk Up

Houndoom @ Leftovers.
(Def 188, Speed 200, Sp. Atk 120)
Flamethrower
Crunch
Roar
HP Grass

Metagross @ Leftovers.
(Atk 200, Def 52, Speed 200, Sp. Def 56)
Meteor Mash
Explosion
Rock Slide
Sludeg Bomb

Crobat @ Choice Band.
(HP 4, Atk 252, Speed 252)
Steel Wing
HP(Earth)/Return
Shadow Ball
Return/Air Cutter

Starmie @ Lum Berry
(Def 40, speed 160, Sp.Atk 160, Sp.Def 148)
Psychic
Ice Beam
Surf
Recover

Ok, that's that any suggestions?
 
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Carpetted!

Guest
Gardevoir @ ??? Leftovers
Psychic
Calm Mind
Thunderbolt
??? Will o Wisp

Slaking @ ??? Choice Band
Return
Hyper Beam Earthquake
Focus Punch
Shadow Ball

Houndoom @ ??? Leftovers
Flamethrower
Crunch
Roar Sunny day
??? Solar Beam

Metagross @ ??? Choice Band/leftovers
Meteor Mash
Explosion
??? Rockslide
??? Earhquake

Crobat @ ??? Choice band/leftovers
Sludge Bomb
HP(flying/Earth/Fighting)/Return
Confuse Ray Shadow Ball
Return/Air Cutter

Starmie @ ??? Leftovers
Psychic Thunderbolt(?)
Ice Beam
Surf
Recover
Good team...
 
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Ghostly Robe

Guest
I don't have any more earthquake or shadowball TM's so that's a problem,
CB and Leftovers can't be used as hold item for everyone - this is BF you know,
do you know about anything i could use instead?

But thanks anyway. =)
 
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Carpetted!

Guest
Oh okay, I don't have emerald so I didn't know.
Shell bell? Brightpowder/Lax incense? Use what you have.
 
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Ghostly Robe

Guest
Ok, and about that shadow ball TM i just found out that i didn't use it.
So which one of my team members should have it?
;289; Slaking
OR
;169; Crobat
OR
;376; Metagross
 
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Carpetted!

Guest
If you needed to, Slaking, Crobat could annoy if it needed to and Metagross could use psychic or something. DON'T take my advice or you may regret it.
 
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Ghostly Robe

Guest
Don't worry, i'll wait until my Zubat is a Crobat and until my Metang is a Metagross, so it'll take some time before this team will be ready for action.
 
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Natures? EVs?

Ghostly Robe said:
As you can see i haven't decided all moves for my pokémon, also i need some advice on EV spreads and hold items.
Ok then, here we go:

Gardevoir @ Quick Claw
Psychic
Calm Mind
Thunderbolt/Ice Punch
Will o' Wisp

Slaking @ Choice Band.
Return
Earthquake
Focus Punch
Shadow Ball

Houndoom @ Lax Incense
Flamethrower
Crunch
Will-O-Wisp
HP Grass

Metagross @ Leftovers
Meteor Mash
Agility
Shadow Ball/Sludge Bomb
Earthquake

Crobat @ Shell Bell
Sludge Bomb
HP Fighting
Shadow Ball
Aerial Ace

Starmie @ Petaya Berry
Thunderbolt
Ice Beam
Surf
Recover

Ok, that's that any suggestions?

I'd say give the Choice Band to Crobat, but it's completely up to you.
 
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Ghostly Robe

Guest
chaos952 said:
Natures? EVs?
As i said in my first post the EV's are not decided and i need EV spreads.
The natures are:
---------------
Gardevoir, Calm
---------
Slaking, Adamant
-------
Houndoom, Timid
----------
Metagross, Naughty
----------
Crobat, Jolly
-------
Starmie, Modest
-------
 
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NickTheDude

Guest
Smogon Should help with EVs and natures. and those hax items need to go , the only worthwhile items are Choice Band , Leftovers , and Shell bell as sub for lefties , salac , chesto [Snorlax] , and lum. and a few other berries. those are the only good hold items.
 
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Chiefgango

Guest
Psychic for metagross and dont use explosion, I tried it for my emerald BF team and it didn't work. You need every pkmn alive when you face your enemies, so use shadow ball or something.
 

Jetx

hooray, it's Jetx!
Ghostly Robe said:
As you can see i haven't decided all moves for my pokémon, also i need some advice on EV spreads and hold items.
Ok then, here we go:

Gardevoir @ Quick Claw
Modest
Psychic
destiny bond
Thunderbolt
Will o' Wisp

Slaking @ leftovers
Adamant
Substitute
Hyper Beam
Focus Punch
Earthquake

Houndoom @ Focus band
Impish
Flamethrower
Crunch
Beat up/ overheat/ will o wisp
Toxic

Metagross @ Leftovers
Mild
Meteor Mash
Explosion/ Sludge bomb
Psychic
Earthquake


Crobat @ Shell Bell
mild
Sludge Bomb
Giga drain
Confuse Ray
Aerial ace

Starmie @ Lum Berry
Modest
Psychic
Ice Beam/ thunderbolt
Surf
Recover

Ok, that's that any suggestions?
Hope I helped
 
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Ghostly Robe

Guest
Chiefgango said:
Psychic for metagross and dont use explosion, I tried it for my emerald BF team and it didn't work. You need every pkmn alive when you face your enemies, so use shadow ball or something.
It's not that i'll use explosion as my first move in a fight, it's just there as a last resort when Metagross is nearly fainted.
 
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S:C

Guest
Ghostly Robe said:
As you can see i haven't decided all moves for my pokémon, also i need some advice on EV spreads and hold items.
Ok then, here we go:

Gardevoir @ Quick Claw Leftovers
Psychic
Calm Mind
Thunderbolt
Will o' Wisp

Arguing with the standard set is foolish.

Slaking @ Choice Band
Return
Hyper Beam
Focus Punch
Shadow Ball

I detest the fact that you have CB Hyper Beam on that set. Try Earthquake.

Houndoom @ Lax Incense I don't like Hax items. Try leftovers again.
Flamethrower
Crunch
Roar
???

HP Grass is your last move.

Metagross @ Leftovers Choice Band
Meteor Mash
Explosion
Rock Slide
???

Sludge Bomb works well.

Crobat @ Shell Bell Choice Band
Sludge Bomb
HP(flying/Earth/Fighting)/Return
Confuse Ray
Return/Air Cutter

Here's the right set.

Sludge Bomb
HP Ground
Shadow Ball
Aerial Ace

You do have the option of HP Fighting like chaos suggested, but I prefer Ground since it takes care of Electric- and Rock-types easily.


Starmie @ Lum Berry Leftovers
Psychic
Ice Beam
Surf
Recover

You've got to have BoltBeam on this guy. Ditch Psychic.

Ok, that's that any suggestions?
Comments are bolded.
ChiefGango said:
Psychic for metagross and dont use explosion, I tried it for my emerald BF team and it didn't work.
Don't use Psychic with Metagross. Gardevoir handles that duty anyways.
 
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Ghostly Robe said:
As i said in my first post the EV's are not decided and i need EV spreads.
The natures are:
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Gardevoir, Bold

EVs: 252 HP / 64 Def / 128 SAtk / 66 SDef
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Slaking, Adamant

EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
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Houndoom, Timid

EVs: 68 HP / 190 Spd / 252 SAtk
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Metagross, Adamant

EVs: 96 HP / 252 Atk / 72 Def / 90 Spd
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Crobat, Jolly

EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
-------
Starmie, Timid

EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
-------

10charlimt
 
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Ghostly Robe

Guest
Thanks alot for EV spreads and natures chaos, i'll use them, i think that's all i needed, i might make some better movesets. But right now i won't need anymore help, thank's everyone.
 

aipomkong

prophecy fulfilled
jetx i'm sure choice banded substitute will own on slaking ._.

btw don't even use it on non-cb slaking, truant makes sub completly stupid on slaking

and i'm sure giga drain crobat will become standard with it's whopping special attack

along with toxic houndoom becoming standard because of it's whopping defences and staying power

/sarcasm btw
 
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