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Battle tower whatnot

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Alloran

Guest
Alright. I'm really trying to figure out stuff with my Battle Frontier team. I've got three set up that I think would be pretty good, but I'm kinda at a loss for the others. But a) I have no Emerald yet, so I've got time, b) I'm still new at all of this. So help is good. :)

Here's what I've got so far.

Zapdos@Chesto Berry
Ability: Pressure
Nature: +Sp. Att -Spd (Not the best, I know, but I caught the thing eight times before this popped up and I was sleepy and irritated, so I just kept it. Not really the worst, either.)
EVs: Speed 252 (to cover the detriment from the nature and because it's a good idea)/Sp. Att 252/HP 6
~Drill Peck
~Thundershock
~Rest
~Reflect (?) (Can't do HP because of IVs.)

Victreebel@Leftovers (I know it's not the best SBer, but it's my favourite poke.)
Ability: Chlorophyll
Nature: +Sp. Att -Att
EVs: Speed 252/Sp Att 252/HP6
~Sunny Day
~Solar Beam
~Synthesis
~Toxic/Sleep Powder?

I wanted to go with Jynx, but then I'd have nonthing on my team at all that could take a hit. So I figured Milotic would work.

Milotic@Leftovers
Ability: Marvel Scale
Nature: +Def -Spd (?)
EVs: HP 252/Spe Def 129/Def 129 (?)
~Recover
~Surf
~Ice Beam
~Dragonbreath (?)

Milotic can at least take a hit. This team is decently weak to electric, and is really heavy when it comes to special moves, and incredibly lax when it comes to physical moves. Help is much appriciated, thanks in advance.
 
Completely walled by Blissey/Regice. Your team needs a Physical presence (and a physical wall).

Decently weak to Electric? More like horribly weak. Not to mention that you have no walls whatsoever...
 

Kev Chi

Guardian
chaos952 said:
Decently weak to Electric? More like horribly weak.
The team he has isn't horribly weak to electric attacks. Zapdos = normal dmg, Vectrebel = bad dmg and Milotic = good but it's high sp. def covers some of the dmg. In all, his team is a bit weak to electric. I'd maybe take Zapdos out and add a ground type (just a suggestion).
 
Zapdos still doesn't like Thunderbolts, Victreebel only has base 60 Special Defense, and you obviously don't send out Milotic against an Electric Pokemon/any Pokemon with an Electric attack...
 
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Alloran

Guest
Hrm. Alright. Zapdos out for a Physical wall of somesort or another. I don't particularly want to use Snorlax or Blissey or the regis. Maybe a strong fighting type? Can those work as walls?
 

magnemiteZ

Well-Known Member
Regice, Blissey, or Snorlax are Special Sponges
Steelix, Donphan, Weezing, or Skam are some Physical Walls.

Alloran said:
Victreebel@Leftovers (I know it's not the best SBer, but it's my favourite poke.)
Ability: Chlorophyll
Nature: +Sp. Att -Att (Modest)
EVs: Speed 252/Sp Att 252/HP6 (You need MUCH less in Speed, and more in HP. But I guess that works)
-Sunny Day
-Solar Beam
-Synthesis
-Sleep Powder

Milotic@Leftovers
Ability: Marvel Scale
Nature: +Def -Attack (Bold)
EVs: HP 252/Spe Def 129/Def 129 (?) 129 splits suck, try 180 HP, 200 Sp Attack, and the rest splin in Both Def's.
-Recover
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Hypnosis
For the replcement, try a physical wall.
You could use Rhydon. It covers some vital types that you don't have atm.
Rhydon@ Leftovers
Adamant Nature
Evs-212 Attack, 160 HP, 100 Sp Def, 38 Def (or if you want, you can go for a 101+ Sub)
-Substitute
-Focus Punch
-EQ
-Rock Blast
 
A

Alloran

Guest
I like the idea of Rhydon. Alright, so how does this look, then?

Milotic@Leftovers
Marvel Scale
Bold Nature
180HP/200Sp.Att/65Def/65Sp.Def (taking Fighting_Master's advice)
-Recover
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Hypnosis

Victreebel@Leftovers
Chlorophyl
Modest Nature
150HP/210SpAtt/150Spd
-Sunny Day
-Solarbeam
-Synthesis (Or Sludge Bomb?)
-Sleep Powder

Rhydon@leftovers
Adamant Nature
212Att/160HP/100Sp.Def/38Def
-Substitute
-Focus Punch
-EQ
-Rock Blast? Perhaps Rock Tomb?

I believe since this is just for ingame I _should_ be able to get away with VB as a Sunnybeamer. If it fails horribly and keeps dying, I'll switch to either a Jynx or a Zapdos as a special dd. Does all this look alright, though?
 

magnemiteZ

Well-Known Member
Keep Sythesis on Victreebell, and have either Rock Slide or Rock Blast on Rhydon. I prefer Rock Blast, because it might do twice as much as Rock Slide does. But if you don't like it, use Rock Slide.

Other than that, it should do fine.
 
A

Alloran

Guest
Any suggestions, then? What are counters to Boltbeamers? Metagross? Maybe? Anything else?
 

StrayedBullet

OMFG................
Victreebel is a pretty bad Sunnybeamer. Try this:

Victreebel@leftovers
-Swords Dance
-Sludge Bomb
-Sleep Powder
-Synthesis/Razor Leaf

Snorlax is what you need..
 
A

Alloran

Guest
Pity. I really like Victreebel, but it seems she's not fit for three-member teem goodness. I personally find raising snorlax to be a pain, but Ludicolo won't work either as half of it's standard moves and it's standard party role are covered by Milotic. Would a strong fighting type be a good counter to Boltbeam? Maybe an Ice type that isn't already a water type that can take some hits? The only one of the latter I can think of is Regice >.< Maybe a Steelix, as it's normal damage vs. ice and immune to Electric? That would make Rhydon the same thing, though. Jolteon maybe? I don't need another special sweeper, though. Heracross might work... I dunno. I'm givin' up on Victreebel, so what would you guys suggest that would work well with Milotic and Rhydon? I know I'm asking a lot of questions, but, as I said, I'm still new at this and all that good stuff. I'm learning so I can move from ingame to Netbattle, but I'm not about to touch NB until I know what I'm doin' ya know?

Wow, that turned into longer than I thought it would.
 

magnemiteZ

Well-Known Member
Erm... Milotic has completely different weaknesses to Ludicolo for a start.
Ludicolo's job is to annoy the f*ck! But surprisingly he makes a good Special Sweeper with a decent Movepull.
Ludicolo@ Leftovers
Bold Nature
Evs-180 HP, 100 sp Attack, 100 Def, 40 Sp Def (off the top if my head)
Trait-Rain Dish
-Leech Seed
-Dive
-Rain Dance
-Substitute/Protect/Ice Beam
 
^ No. Just... No.

Calm Nature @ Leftovers
Trait: Swift Swim
EVs: 204 HP / 90 SAtk / 216 SDef
Rain Dance
Ice Beam
Surf
Leech Seed

For Rhydon, use this:
Adamant Nature @ Leftovers
Trait: Lightning Rod
EVs: 212 HP / 252 Atk / 46 Def
- Earthquake
- Substitute
- Swords Dance
- Rock Slide

STAB Earthquake and Focus Punch are redundant.
 
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