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BECAUSE THE BIBLE SAYS SO!! Does the Bible have a legitimate place in modern debate?

Discussion in 'Debate Forum' started by mattj, Aug 24, 2011.

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Does the Bible have a legitimate place in modern debates when it has something to say

  1. Yes

    26.6%
  2. No

    65.1%
  3. Undecided

    8.3%
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  1. CSolarstorm

    CSolarstorm New spicy version

    Yes, it does make sense, that's admirable. Understand though, as long as you offer your beliefs as debate, they're going to get played with, deconstructed and twisted in ways you don't really intend. Don't take it personally.

    That would be ideal. But as long as Dunning is making his own case for Christianity, it would be hard to justify asking anyone else to stop making a case for athiesm as well. Both sides seem to be interested in debating without a conclusion or any prospect of convincing one another of anything.
     
    Last edited: Dec 22, 2011
  2. Malanu

    Malanu Est sularus oth mith

    You my friend have a way with words. Shakespeare would be envious. Thank you.
     
  3. Sadib

    Sadib Time Lord Victorious

    I have an idea. Everyone should keep on quoting chuboy's questions until mattj finally stops ignoring them.

     
  4. Grey Wind

    Grey Wind Only rescues maidens

    Um, did nobody notice that matj was banned?

    He can't reply for a good while now.
     
  5. ChedWick

    ChedWick Well-Known Member

    You have terrible ideas.


    To be fair this is a debate. A debate regarding the authority of the bible. I think it is tasteless to try and change someones beliefs but at the same time dunning is spouting off his beliefs as though they are fact and quite frankly its a bit annoying when you consider most, if not all of his posts are geared this way. Either way both side's squabbles appear to be irrelevant to the topic at hand.


    @Dunning, your opinions are duly noted, but be aware this is a debate and in a debate, many of us like to see evidence to support your claims. Just because you believe in the bible and its teachings, does not mean it is a relevant source outside of theological debates.
     
  6. Sadib

    Sadib Time Lord Victorious

    It's not a terrible idea. It is the perfect plan to counter mattj's arrogance. He has been purposely avoiding the questions for over a month, because he knows that he cannot answer them. Yet he still thinks the Bible should be allowed in the modern debate. If we force him to confront the questions, he has no choice but the forfeit this debate.
     
  7. CSolarstorm

    CSolarstorm New spicy version

    Thank you!

    I would have thought would be the first one to notice he was banned. And your idea is too similar to flaming.
     
  8. Sadib

    Sadib Time Lord Victorious

    How is it anything like flaming? I'm not insulting him. I'm just trying to get him to answer some important question pertaining to the debate.

    Oh look he was banned. How did that happen? After taking one month off to let some infractions expire, it only took him two days to gain enough infractions to get banned again. Since he didn't post outside this debate, that means all of the infractions came from his posts here. It seems that mattj has more of a problem staying unbanned than Alleviate. Oh well. I guess I can just bump this thread again when he's no longer banned.
     
    Last edited: Dec 22, 2011
  9. Dunning

    Dunning God's Soldier

    I know you all dont agree and I am fine with debating, I just do not want to offend you, if I act like it is fact it is because I believe it truly is,

    I just cant stand by while you say Christians believe something that they dont, to me that is offensive and would be like me saying an atheist scientist(I know not all scientists are atheist, I am just using an example) believes something that they do not and then using that to prove all of you who disagree with me wrong, it is not a real debate. I just want to let everyone know what a Christian believes in so at least then it isnt lies or in most cases a misunderstanding.

    And I am fine if you guys want to put up your case for Atheism or any other belief for that matter. Just know I will put my two cents in too,
     
  10. Sadib

    Sadib Time Lord Victorious

    What exactly are the "lies" that are being spread about Christians?
     
  11. Grei

    Grei not the color

    I'm merely asking for people to either be civil or stop tearing into one another altogether. It isn't necessary.
     
  12. Dunning

    Dunning God's Soldier

    Some people believe being Christian means living a good life and that we are the 'good people' and that we believe we are higher than everyone else. While being Christian means you are saved, not better than anyone else, more of a misunderstanding than a lie

    I agree, no one needs to tear apart anyone and that this should be kept civil. Hope people will listen to you
     
  13. Sadib

    Sadib Time Lord Victorious

    You're not saved. You only think you are. You cannot reach salvation without the Triforce.
     
  14. Dunning

    Dunning God's Soldier

    what is the Triforce?? I have never heard of that, if I had to guess it would be the Trinity, but I am not sure that is right.
     
  15. Kaiserin

    Kaiserin please wake up...

    L M F A O

    Also, by your earlier logic about Satan being the cause for everyone who doesn't believe in Christianity... that basically amounts to a large portion of the idea of free will being stripped away and excused with the presence of a horrible evil demon who does things just to **** with everyone.

    Frankly, I don't want to jump on the holy bandwagon of a God who forces people to jump through nigh-ridiculous and unreasonable hoops just to gain his favor, in spite of being omnibenevolent. And if that means, as a skeptic, that I am going to hell? Well, even with all that talk about eternal suffering, I'm sure Satan wouldn't object to another willing demon on his roster.

    (In all seriousness, though, I'm more inclined to believe that Hell was/is a scare tactic introduced by the churches to strong-arm people into believing and worshiping.)
     
  16. Sadib

    Sadib Time Lord Victorious

    Perhaps you should research what the Triforce is before you ask questions. The trinity wishes it was the Triforce. Go find me some scholarly articles about the Triforce. I won't accept anything that can be found through Google.
     
  17. Dunning

    Dunning God's Soldier

    Hahahaha, I shouldve looked that up first. As for that site http://www.christiananswers.net/spotlight/games/2000/legendofzeldaocarina.html
    and yes I am pretty sure you were being sarcastic, and no, I actually did not find that through Google

    I can see why you are laughing lol

    Tell me if you wanna hear what I believe, cause that doesnt sound like the God I know, sounds like the one I used to believe in
     
  18. ChedWick

    ChedWick Well-Known Member

    Christian beliefs are not universally collective though. So the best you can do is argue the meanings of the bible(with evidence) and your own beliefs, but thats not really the point of this thread at all.

    Bing is the devil.
     
    Last edited: Dec 23, 2011
  19. Dunning

    Dunning God's Soldier

    I guess not everyone who calls themselves a Christian believes what I do or what my church teaches(I only say calls because I knew an atheist who told everyone he was christian)
    Yeah, I realized this has gotten far from the main topic, a long time ago

    Haha, no Bing either
     
  20. Sadib

    Sadib Time Lord Victorious

    Does anyone else want to defend the Bible to be used in modern debates?
     
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