Ferrothorn. Stealth Rock, Spikes, Toxic spikes, and Leech Seed, along with it's high defenses makes it a pretty insane grass type, but is very vulnerable to Fire types.
Yeah but this is about in game and those moves pretty much suck in game unless on the subway.Ferrothorn. Stealth Rock, Spikes, Toxic spikes, and Leech Seed, along with it's high defenses makes it a pretty insane grass type, but is very vulnerable to Fire types.
Yeah but this is about in game and those moves pretty much suck in game unless on the subway.
@Piekid11- Did you forget Lilligant learns nothing at all? Just because it has quiver dance doesn't mean it's good.
rocky505 said:A pokemon with Sap sipper could randomly come in and wall the thing like crazy.
Yeah but this is about in game and those moves pretty much suck in game unless on the subway.
Yes I have used Lilligant and it sucks. Two grass moves are not going to do crap. it's movepool sucks, It is only 5 points bulkier than Sawsbuck which is basically nothing. Before the thing can set up it will be KOed. A pokemon using an offensive boosting move with only grass type moves sucks. What a pokemon needs to sweep is diversity. Which Lilligant doesnt have. I am not saying Lilligant sucks because of the metagame I am saying it sucks because it does.Um, yeah it does. Enough with your arbitrary "this move makes this Pokemon good but this one doesn't," because fact is, Quiver Dance boosts the two moves that Lilligant will ever need: Giga Drain and Petal Dance.
Way to be a hypocrite in the same post. You just said:
It's pretty clear that you're biased. You can't arbitrarily say that Ferrothorn has less going for it because of how it's best moves are useless in-game and then turn around and say that Lilligant sucks because of the metagame.
Have you ever used Lilligant? No? Then enough with your weird bashing of it. It's good, accept it.
EDIT: In case it wasn't clear, I voted for Lilligant. Leavanny and Sawsbuck rule due to being physical versions of Lilligant, but Lilligant is bulkier than Sawsbuck (something I like) and can heal itself when Leavanny can't.
Yes I have used Lilligant and it sucks. Two grass moves are not going to do crap. it's movepool sucks, It is only 5 points bulkier than Sawsbuck which is basically nothing. Before the thing can set up it will be KOed. A pokemon using an offensive boosting move with only grass type moves sucks. What a pokemon needs to sweep is diversity. Which Lilligant doesnt have. I am not saying Lilligant sucks because of the metagame I am saying it sucks because it does.
I voted for Sawsbuck because I just love the thing. Accessibility to Jump Kick and Wild Charge is great. Of course, I've also been informed of Liligant's greatness courtesy of Grei, so it's safe to assume that it's equally awesome.