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Beta Olivine House

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Gulzar

Grass Trainer
Hey! It’s been a while since I posted a new thread.
For those of you who don’t know me, I’m Gulzar and I hunt through the programming of Pokémon games in search of “beta programming.” Beta programming is anything programmed into a game that was not intended for the final release. In my search, I have discovered many beta maps, beta music, and other beta finds. You can see some of these finds here, here, and here.

A while back, I was exploring the event programming of Pokémon GSC. When I focused in on Olivine, I discovered that there was an extra house map associated with Olivine’s main map. This was a startling find, since I had assumed that all houses programmed into the game were accessible in regular game-play. I used Goldmap to view the events programming of the Olivine map, and this is what I saw.
Strangely enough, I seemed to be in working condition. Since the warp tile was up in the corner of the map, without a door nearby, it would be inaccessible during normal game-play.
But since I don’t do “normal game-play,” I was able to access it with some tweaking.
First, I added a door just below the Olivine gym in order to make the warp tile accessible. Next, I moved the warp tile to the door. This is what the resulting map looked like.
I then started up my emu and brought my character to the door, shown here.
I then proceeded to enter the beta house… Sounds like a scary story, doesn’t it? Inside was very strange.

Beta Olivine house part 1
Beta Olivine house part 2

As you can see, there are two sprites in the house, one is a woman and the other is a pokémon of sorts. The pokémon sprite changes as it walks, form a Rhydon-shape to a Clefairy-shape. I first checked the map on the wall, the window, the tv, and the bookcase. All were in working condition, and did nothing abnormal.
Then I spoke with the pokémon. It said this. It apparently was a Rhydon. After, I spoke with the woman, and here is what she said: 1, 2, 3.
As you can see from the conversation, the woman refers to a pharmacy in Ecruteak, as opposed to in Cianwood. Apparently, the pharmacy was originally intended to be located in Ecruteak. Maybe Cianwood city was not planed to even exist.

I consider this find of a beta house to be a rare one: never before or since have I found a beta house.

My question: What do you think of this? Was Cianwood city a last-minute addition? Was this house planned to exist in Olivine, or some other place? I know you all have good ideas!
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Gridiron

Well-Known Member
Cianwood could have been a last minute addition, considering that the beta Lake of Rage has a gym in it.
 

Serebii93

too... much...
Dang Gulzar! You are a true hacker. I don't think anyone has even dreamed of being you. Well, I guess I'm going to have to congrat you again for another abnormal find. Strange. What's with all the 'P's and 'W's? They bother me.
 

Alphonse Elric

That's My Rule!!!
I noticed those weird little "W"s on the door tiles in other beta houses before.

I find it quite strange, the "pharmacist in Ecruteak" thing and all, and the... er, "Rhydon" which somehow turned into a Clefairy on the second screenshot. It could be possible that Cianwood was a last-minute add-in, since Lake of Rage was originally supposed to be a town...
 

pugman3000

Pokemon Veteran
That's an awsome find. I think that it is very possible that Cianwood could have been an add-in, that is probably the best explaination.
 

Spock

Live Long & Prosper
Quite possibly they might not have wanted to add "everything" in Ecruteak city. They had a gym, the theater, Ho-oh's tower, the beasts, and Mortar to the right, leading to a Tyrouge. They needed to think outside the gaming city box, I suppose.
 
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Bloodstar

Guest
Lake of Rage being a town...

Perhaps this explains why you can fly to it? o_O
 

muckers

*yawn*
Ah, so that's where that warp point leads to.

I'd seen it when doing some hacking of my own, but never actually thought of exploring what it might be.

Good find - odd why they just moved the warp over some trees rather than deleting it altogether...
 
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Proffesor Pikachu

Guest
Gridiron said:
Cianwood could have been a last minute addition, considering that the beta Lake of Rage has a gym in it.
You could be right though.
 

Gulzar

Grass Trainer
Yeah, it does seem like a possibility that Cianwood was a last minute add-on.
Also, about the W’s and P’s and stuff on the map picture, they just represent where warp tiles and people are.
Mega Trickster: I think there was a thread about that. I’ve seen the “locked house,” but it’s nothing special.

Keep the ideas coming!
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If there was a pharmacy in Ekruteak why dont you look for it. Or see if Cianwood would just be water. (Ignore if this makes no sense I dont understand hacking very well)
 

muckers

*yawn*
No don't be - that's a very good idea. See if Ectruteak did have a Pharmacy somewhere. Mabye there's an offset warp point like with Olivine?
 

Gulzar

Grass Trainer
Yeah, it’s a very good idea to look for a pharmacy in Ecruteak. The warp tile is probably not there still. That doesn’t mean the map isn’t hidden somewhere, though. :)

I wonder what Cianwood would look like without the town there? I guess the Whirl Islands would just be a dead-end.

I’ll see what more I can find.
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Ninetails

Well-Known Member
Very interesting finds. I would go hacking around in my GBA emulator but I don't have a way to take screencaps of what I'm doing. ^^;

Also, if there weren't originally a Cianwood City, then where was Chuck's gym originally? D:

- Ninetails. ;038;
 

DanK84

Manyula Trainer
Ninetails said:
Also, if there weren't originally a Cianwood City, then where was Chuck's gym originally? D:
Maybe his gym was the Lake of Rage Town one. Eh, I could be wrong. XD

Anyway, these are some great finds indeed. It would make sense if Cianwood was a last minute addition.
 

Waffles

WACKY DELLY YEAH
It's stuff like this that makes me want a beta build of G/S that badly.

Cianwood a last minute throw? It could have been the site for Lugia's dungeon before it became a town.[/randomspeculation]
 

DarkTyphlosion

Soul Trainer
yeah, I agree with whoever said that u should look in the Beta Eurateak for a pharmacy,...

and BTW, how do u access thw Beta version of these GSC games? is it a version? or is it actual hacking into the code of the game?
 
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