Better Eight Than NeverAfter stopping the problems in the Dragon's Den, Ash & Clair continue their battle...but with Ash's Charizard on his team again, it could very well be a glorious win. Will he actually win?
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Better Eight Than Never! (256)
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Better Eight Than NeverAfter stopping the problems in the Dragon's Den, Ash & Clair continue their battle...but with Ash's Charizard on his team again, it could very well be a glorious win. Will he actually win?
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meggirl63
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Charizard really beat Dragonaire that time!
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Factory Head Noland
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This Gym Battle totally rules!!!! It's one of the best ever, it took ages for Ash and Clair to actually have the battle because they kept on getting interupted. Team Rocket were very trouble-some in these episodes.
Chris
Old Coot
Of all the Johto episodes, the Gym Battles were DEFINATELY worth seeing. They never seem to disappoint, and the battle between Satoshi and Claire was a perfect example. Snorlax, Noctowl and Charizard got to have their own action in on the battle and this was proving Satoshi's been really improving since he reached Johto.
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Factory Head Noland
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I know, there never was a disappointing Gym Battle in Johto. Also they were never really the same (something different always happened), there was no pattern.
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Zen
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I don't think that battle should have been restarted, but continued. I mean, that's not fair; Ash had already sent Pikachu and Noctowl (which was defeated) in the previous battle, so Snorlax or Charizard shouldn't have been allowed to battle.
Ash was losing and was going to lose, he just had one pokemon and Pikachu left but the battle started from the beggining.
In addition, Charizard is that pokemon that Ash just calls when problems appear, as well as Snorlax or Squirtle, for example. Also, Ash doesn't call them, they come anyway without any reason! It's very suspicious that when Ash was battling against Clair Charizard appeared and agreed to fight for him. Charizard is perhaps Ash's strongest pokemon, well, was, because he's no longer his trainer.
If the battle hadn't been started again, Kingdra would have beaten Pikachu; and I don't think Charizard could win Kingdra, Gyarados and Dragonair.
If I had been Clair I wouldn't have let Ash use his Charizard or restart the battle. You just have one pokemon and Pikachu, I still have Kingdra and two more. Another thing, when Charizard dried the pool (how? I mean, he burnt the water with fire and it evaporated!) Clair should have called his Dragonair to make an hydro pump or something to fill the pool again. Bad move. Another unfair thing, when Charizard appeared, the "referee" opened the floor so that he could fly, that's a clear advantage to Ash.
To sum up, the battle was exciting, but winning that way is a swindle... that battle was cheated and tricked. Ash shouldn't have won.
Ash was losing and was going to lose, he just had one pokemon and Pikachu left but the battle started from the beggining.
In addition, Charizard is that pokemon that Ash just calls when problems appear, as well as Snorlax or Squirtle, for example. Also, Ash doesn't call them, they come anyway without any reason! It's very suspicious that when Ash was battling against Clair Charizard appeared and agreed to fight for him. Charizard is perhaps Ash's strongest pokemon, well, was, because he's no longer his trainer.
If the battle hadn't been started again, Kingdra would have beaten Pikachu; and I don't think Charizard could win Kingdra, Gyarados and Dragonair.
If I had been Clair I wouldn't have let Ash use his Charizard or restart the battle. You just have one pokemon and Pikachu, I still have Kingdra and two more. Another thing, when Charizard dried the pool (how? I mean, he burnt the water with fire and it evaporated!) Clair should have called his Dragonair to make an hydro pump or something to fill the pool again. Bad move. Another unfair thing, when Charizard appeared, the "referee" opened the floor so that he could fly, that's a clear advantage to Ash.
To sum up, the battle was exciting, but winning that way is a swindle... that battle was cheated and tricked. Ash shouldn't have won.
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Factory Head Noland
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This episode is on again on Saturday but I'm gonna miss it *sobs*, I'm going on stupid holiday on Friday morning! I've been waiting for this episode to air again for ages aswell!
This is one of the best Gym Battles ever!
I liked how Ash used Snorlax and Charizard, not Pokemon form his usual team but it did seem a but unfair to his Johto team as they are good battlers aswell.
The battlefield in this battle is one of the best I've seen, the pool in the middle is cool.
This is one of the best Gym Battles ever!
I liked how Ash used Snorlax and Charizard, not Pokemon form his usual team but it did seem a but unfair to his Johto team as they are good battlers aswell.
The battlefield in this battle is one of the best I've seen, the pool in the middle is cool.
This was a pretty awesome gym battle, especially with Snorlax and Charizard's fights. I especially liked when Snorlax used ice punch, and Charizard evaporated the pool. Ash really did good in this episode, that's for sure. I also liked Charla getting confused when wynaut stole her food. LOL
I originally missed this episode, and had to wait a pretty long time until I saw it in the reruns, but I liked it a lot. Though I was really surprised that Snorlax had Ice Punch out of nowhere, and Ash knew it. But at least they're consistant: he uses Ice Punch again in the Jouto League.
This was such an awesome! gym battle, I really liked it, Charizard and Snorlax both battled greatly. Wynaut stealing he food was so random, but it was very funny
Cobalt_Latios
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Did anyone notice how after this battle, every single episode afterward will have the look of Advanced. In other words, they wont look hand painted anymore, they will look computer painted.
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I don't know about that. I only noticed the improved color and visuals being better in certain episodes around this time. Ones I always noticed having the better colors and animation included "Got Miltank?", "Address Unown" "You're a Star, Larvitar" and "Here's Looking at you Elekid". The most noticable differances for me were Jessie's hair being purple instead of bright red (oddly enough her hair is red in some of the later movies) and Brock's hair is a bit of a differant tint too, a more light brown than black.
bhrettzerda053
I have returned.....
Ash's battle against Clair is cool, Charizard using Seismic Toss against Dragonair, that's a cool fight. Snorlax did great too, its tummy sure resisted some of Kingdra's attacks. Plus Kingdra got some damage from the Ice Punch of Snorlax, since it's a Dragon-type. It's impossible that Charizard vaporized the water in the pool with a Fire Spin, well, Ash said that time "full power". It paved the way to beating Clair and entering the Johto League.
Littlemyuu
Well-Known Member
Ash vs Clair, it was a great episode, i love watching it
TorterraGuy
Da Bomb
I liked this episode mostly for Charizard's temporary return.