dragon user
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I'm trying to Pokeradar for a shiny Shinx but everytime i get so far a Bidoof turns up and breaks my chain, so in my oppinion Bidoof is really annoying.
Bidoof is amazing. Period.
When it evolves into Bibarel it'll knock the living daylights out of your team.
-Charge Beam
-Surf
-Grass Knot
-Super Fang
;399;/;400; = PWNAGE
oh yeah, i give death to Bidoof with heracross and close combat
I find Bidoof annoying and it happened to be my only shiny I have on Platinum! UGH!
Annoying - When they often pop up as an encounter from time to time.
Amazing - Well, one reason only...but for D/P and not Platinum - the cowgirl south of Solaceon Town. What do we do with her? Abuse the hell out of her five Bidoofs (for EV training purposes).
Well, Id have to say both. Bidoof are annoying when I see them in the wild all the time and because their moves basically suck. They are amazing because I can use them as HM slaves and to EV train my shuckle in HP.
oh yeah, i give death to Bidoof with heracross and close combat
That's why he said give dead to BIDOOF.THATS IT ITS BIBAREL ARGUING TIME.
Ok, lets do some calculations, lets say you have a wall out, Impish Curse Bibarel (EV spread is standard:252 HP/48 Atk/120 Def/88 SpD) comes in, you switch to Heracross, and Bibarel curses like it should on the switch. Thanks to simple Bibarel has a +2 Defense Boost. Heracross uses Close Combat. This should do, 239-281 Damage, sorry that's NOT a OHKO. EVER on Max HP Curse Bibarel.
Bibarel with a Plus +2 Atk Boost from simple and curse, hits Heracross, now with -1 Def from Close Combat with Return. This does 379-446 HP Damage, 412.6 on average. This is always a OHKO. Congrats, your Heracross is now dead from the bulky beaver.
Anybody who doesn't think Cursed Simple Bibarel isn't terrifying is either ignorant, or an idiot. +2 Atk and +2 Def is simply MONSTEROUS. The -2 Speed won't matter because the Beaver is now bulky enough to take hits, and wouldn't have outsped anything anyway.
What's even worse is a Cursed Simple Bibarel with Agility Baton Passed to it. With the -2 Speed Negated, it actually outspeeds some things. Now THAT is frightening.
That's why he said give dead to BIDOOF.