Lord Godwin
The Lord of Darkness
Inspired by a discussion under https://forums.serebii.net/threads/favorite-signature-pokemon-of-the-kanto-region.667603/ I wanted to raise the topic of who do people consider as Blue (Male) Signature/Ace Pokemon.
I did a small table to reflect Champion/Final Battles Teams' used by Blue using the following criteria:
- Used all main series games counting each team variation as a separate Team
- Added Teams used in Pokemon Stadium 1 & 2 and data from Pokemon Masters.
- Counted Sun&Moon and USUM seperately even though the Team was the same (bar the levels). This also happened with Gold/Silver/Crystal and Stadium 2 Round 1 Team. Still, as those were separate games (and not counterparts released together) they were counted seperately.
- I also added points if a Pokemon was used in Battle Tree in SM (1 point) or USUM (a second point)
- I used Champion and End Game Team. Honorable mentions for Raticate and Fearow who did not make it to the table as they were rejected for those fights.
Here how it ended:
https://www.deviantart.com/k2basior/art/Trainer-Blue-810972806
See for the top candidates and some of the most-commonly used rationale:
1. Venusaur (3/25):
+
One of the Starters
-
Used only in RBG/FRLG
No presence outside those games
2. Charizard (4/25):
+
One of the Starers
Used in Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee (some consider this as an indicator who are the canon starters of Kanto Trainer Trio)
Used by Blue in Pokemon Adventures
-
Not used by any Anime Counterpart of Blue
Red used Charizard in Pokemon Masters
Not used by Blue in GSC/HGSS/B2W2/Stadium(1&2) and Masters
3. Blastoise (3/25):
+
One of the Starters
Used by Gary in the Anime
Used by Blue in Pokemon Generations
Used by Blue in Pokemon Origins
Lance who is fought right before Blue has a Gyarados so it would be a repetition
-
Not used by Blue in Pokemon Let's Go games
Not used by Blue in Pokemon Adventures
Not used by Blue in GSC/HGSS/B2W2/Stadium(1&2) and Masters
4. Pidgeot (13/25)
+
Blue's Partner in Masters
Blue's Ace in Pokemon HGSS
Blue's first Pokemon outside the Starters which stays with him for most of the game
-
Not used by Blue in some early games (Yellow/Stadium) and most of the later games (B2W2, SM/USUM outside the Battle Tree)
Same Ace as Falkner's and, to an extend, Trace
Regional Birds seems as a weak choice for a Champion
5. Exeggutor (20/25)
+
Has most of appereances tied with Alakazam
Although people compare it to Gyarados and Arcanine, Exeggutor also appeared in Yellow and Stadium
No other Trainer has Exeggutor as their signature
Is one of 2 Pokemon used by Blue in his initial Let's Go games, the other one being Charizard
-
Is replaced by Venusaur in some of the Teams (in RGB/FRLG)
6. Alakazam (20/25)
+
Has most of appereances tied with Exeggutor
Missed only few appearances and is on all Starter-based Teams (RGB/Yellow/FRLG)
Joins the Team fairly early and stays in it till the end
Only missing in HGSS (returns in B2W2 and SM/USUM/LGPE), Stadium 1, Stadium 2 Rematch Team and Masters)
-
Same Ace as Sabrina's and Mira's
7. Arcanine (15/25)
+
Is Blue's Lead in PWT in B2W2 (where the signatures/aces are usually used)
2nd highest Non-legendary BST in Gen 1 (only behind Dragonite)
Gary has one in the Anime and was used by him quite a lot
-
Not used by Blue in Yellow, Stadium 1 and 2 Rematch Team and, most importantly, Let's Go games
Is replaced by Charizard in some of the Teams (in RGB/FRLG)
Same Ace as Blaine's (debatable) and Marley's
8. Gyarados (16/25)
+
In some Beta's Blue's name reffered to Gyarados as his Prototype name (something similar to Gyarados' Trainer)
-
Not used by Blue in Yellow, Stadium 1 and 2 Rematch Team
Is replaced by Blastoise in some of the Teams (in RGB/FRLG and in the Anime)
Lance who is fought right before Blue has a Gyarados so it would be a repetition
Same Ace as Lysander's (debatable)
9. Rhydon/Rhyperior (12/25)
+
Is a Ground-type and Blue is the Vermilion Gym Leader which he took after a Ground-type specialist (Giovanni)
Besides Yellow was on all of his Teams up till B2W2 (later only returned in SM/USUM Battle Tree Battles)
-
Join's Blue's time quite late (prior the Pokemon League)
Starting B2W2 did not appear on any main Team
Same Ace as Giovanni's and Bertha's
10. Eevee and some of it's evolutions
+
Gary used one in the Anime (later evolves to Umbreon)
Considered as a counterpart to Pikachu (Red's Ace)
-
Does not appear on any Team outside Yellow
Please share your thoughts
I did a small table to reflect Champion/Final Battles Teams' used by Blue using the following criteria:
- Used all main series games counting each team variation as a separate Team
- Added Teams used in Pokemon Stadium 1 & 2 and data from Pokemon Masters.
- Counted Sun&Moon and USUM seperately even though the Team was the same (bar the levels). This also happened with Gold/Silver/Crystal and Stadium 2 Round 1 Team. Still, as those were separate games (and not counterparts released together) they were counted seperately.
- I also added points if a Pokemon was used in Battle Tree in SM (1 point) or USUM (a second point)
- I used Champion and End Game Team. Honorable mentions for Raticate and Fearow who did not make it to the table as they were rejected for those fights.
Here how it ended:
https://www.deviantart.com/k2basior/art/Trainer-Blue-810972806
See for the top candidates and some of the most-commonly used rationale:
1. Venusaur (3/25):
+
One of the Starters
-
Used only in RBG/FRLG
No presence outside those games
2. Charizard (4/25):
+
One of the Starers
Used in Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee (some consider this as an indicator who are the canon starters of Kanto Trainer Trio)
Used by Blue in Pokemon Adventures
-
Not used by any Anime Counterpart of Blue
Red used Charizard in Pokemon Masters
Not used by Blue in GSC/HGSS/B2W2/Stadium(1&2) and Masters
3. Blastoise (3/25):
+
One of the Starters
Used by Gary in the Anime
Used by Blue in Pokemon Generations
Used by Blue in Pokemon Origins
Lance who is fought right before Blue has a Gyarados so it would be a repetition
-
Not used by Blue in Pokemon Let's Go games
Not used by Blue in Pokemon Adventures
Not used by Blue in GSC/HGSS/B2W2/Stadium(1&2) and Masters
4. Pidgeot (13/25)
+
Blue's Partner in Masters
Blue's Ace in Pokemon HGSS
Blue's first Pokemon outside the Starters which stays with him for most of the game
-
Not used by Blue in some early games (Yellow/Stadium) and most of the later games (B2W2, SM/USUM outside the Battle Tree)
Same Ace as Falkner's and, to an extend, Trace
Regional Birds seems as a weak choice for a Champion
5. Exeggutor (20/25)
+
Has most of appereances tied with Alakazam
Although people compare it to Gyarados and Arcanine, Exeggutor also appeared in Yellow and Stadium
No other Trainer has Exeggutor as their signature
Is one of 2 Pokemon used by Blue in his initial Let's Go games, the other one being Charizard
-
Is replaced by Venusaur in some of the Teams (in RGB/FRLG)
6. Alakazam (20/25)
+
Has most of appereances tied with Exeggutor
Missed only few appearances and is on all Starter-based Teams (RGB/Yellow/FRLG)
Joins the Team fairly early and stays in it till the end
Only missing in HGSS (returns in B2W2 and SM/USUM/LGPE), Stadium 1, Stadium 2 Rematch Team and Masters)
-
Same Ace as Sabrina's and Mira's
7. Arcanine (15/25)
+
Is Blue's Lead in PWT in B2W2 (where the signatures/aces are usually used)
2nd highest Non-legendary BST in Gen 1 (only behind Dragonite)
Gary has one in the Anime and was used by him quite a lot
-
Not used by Blue in Yellow, Stadium 1 and 2 Rematch Team and, most importantly, Let's Go games
Is replaced by Charizard in some of the Teams (in RGB/FRLG)
Same Ace as Blaine's (debatable) and Marley's
8. Gyarados (16/25)
+
In some Beta's Blue's name reffered to Gyarados as his Prototype name (something similar to Gyarados' Trainer)
-
Not used by Blue in Yellow, Stadium 1 and 2 Rematch Team
Is replaced by Blastoise in some of the Teams (in RGB/FRLG and in the Anime)
Lance who is fought right before Blue has a Gyarados so it would be a repetition
Same Ace as Lysander's (debatable)
9. Rhydon/Rhyperior (12/25)
+
Is a Ground-type and Blue is the Vermilion Gym Leader which he took after a Ground-type specialist (Giovanni)
Besides Yellow was on all of his Teams up till B2W2 (later only returned in SM/USUM Battle Tree Battles)
-
Join's Blue's time quite late (prior the Pokemon League)
Starting B2W2 did not appear on any main Team
Same Ace as Giovanni's and Bertha's
10. Eevee and some of it's evolutions
+
Gary used one in the Anime (later evolves to Umbreon)
Considered as a counterpart to Pikachu (Red's Ace)
-
Does not appear on any Team outside Yellow
Please share your thoughts