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Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl Speculation/Discussion Thread!

Mr.Munchlax

Great Ball Rank Trainer
I've always sped through the game and never actually took the time to explore things, so I'm definitely gonna try to take it slow with the remakes.

I wanna explore each and every town fully before I move on to the next one, and - as I've stated before - I am NOT completing the gyms without a Spiritomb. Also, I definitely want to explore the Battle Zone fully this time around too. Despite being completely captivated by it (I honestly consider it the best postgame of any Pokémon title sans Gold & Silver), I kinda rushed through that too. Hopefully the villa returns in this game and I can decorate it and stuff. That'll be neat.

Honestly, I think I'm gonna end up spending most of my time in the Grand Underground, exploring every inch of the routes. I'm fairly positive mining for statues is gonna be a pain in the a**, but it'll be worth it in the end.
That’s pretty much how I want to handle my playthrough since I want to fully immerse myself into Sinnoh and make t game more about the journey than the destination. Plus, now that I know about Sinnoh’s massive backtracking flaw, I want to use it to my advantage by filling traversing the areas. Plus, it’s a good way to stall for time until Home connectivity or possible DLCs come out

I still want to go to Veilstone City first to access the style shop ASAP, but afterwards I may take the long way to Pastoria City or maybe travel to Celestic Town & Eterna City first before I do my fifth gym battle. Since Sinnoh was originally meant to be the ultimate pokémon game, I want BDSP & Legends to both feel like one consecutive story, connecting Sinnoh’s past with its present, and be the ultimate adventure (at least until Gen 9 comes out)
 
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UltimateNinja

Banana shipper
Just a quick question but when do the first datamines for this game come out.

I get that the datamine for Legends Arceus won’t be until January. However when it comes to Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl will the datamines start popping up as early as next week?
As soon as someone who can extract the data out of the cartridges get his/her hands on the game. Next week, maybe but I would say ten days.
DSP are definitely using the Platinum Dex as you can briefly see Gallade next to Lucario in the one trailer.
They also gave Pokemon like Magmortar and Gliscor new "artworks". Doubt them to be not in the main dex. The DP dex without having all Sinnoh Pokemon in it was bs from the start and they know it.

In terms of the gym leader and e4 teams, I think they'll change the unfitting types with Pokemon that were added in Platinum but keep their aces the same as in DP. Meaning Ambipom and Octillery from Volkners team will get replaced with Jolteon and Electrivire but Luxray is his highest leveled Pokemon, Medicham from Candice is now a Froslass but Abomasnow is her ace etc. LGPE already did this by revamping the gym leader rooster drastically to have better fitting Pokemon in them so I expect the same.
 

WishIhadaManafi5

To Boldly Go Where No One Has Gone Before.
Staff member
Moderator
I’d kill to be able to even find a copy of any of the old Pokemon DS games for cheaper price than the overblown current prices of 72$ USD+

Yea prices have gotten out of control lately. Glad I was able to get in while the prices were still sane.
 

PrinceOfFacade

Ghost-Type Master
That’s pretty much how I want to handle my playthrough since I want to fully immerse myself into Sinnoh and make t game more about the journey than the destination. Plus, now that I know about Sinnoh’s massive backtracking flaw, I want to use it to my advantage by filling traversing the areas. Plus, it’s a good way to stall for time until Home connectivity or possible DLCs come out

I still want to go to Veilstone City first to access the style shop ASAP, but afterwards I may take the long way to Pastoria City or maybe travel to Celestic Town & Eterna City first before I do my fifth gym battle. Since Sinnoh was originally meant to be the ultimate pokémon game, I want BDSP & Legends to both feel like one consecutive story and be the ultimate adventure until Gen 9 comes out

I'm hoping the Diamond & Pearl gym route is being used so we can reach Veilstone sooner. I also don't want to wait very long to get new outfits. However, I think it's possible the types of outfits available will update as we play the game.

Yea prices have gotten out of control lately. Glad I was able to get in while the prices were still sane.

I honestly can't say I blame them. The titles are quite valuable.

I can't think of a generation more loved than Gen 4, especially with HGSS. I've seen copies of Heart Gold on display at GameStop for $55-$65, and it was the only upcharge I wasn't bothered with. Though I didn't care for the game myself, I understood why the price was warranted. People would pay that much. lol
 

WishIhadaManafi5

To Boldly Go Where No One Has Gone Before.
Staff member
Moderator
I'm hoping the Diamond & Pearl gym route is being used so we can reach Veilstone sooner. I also don't want to wait very long to get new outfits. However, I think it's possible the types of outfits available will update as we play the game.



I honestly can't say I blame them. The titles are quite valuable.

I can't think of a generation more loved than Gen 4, especially with HGSS. I've seen copies of Heart Gold on display at GameStop for $55-$65, and it was the only upcharge I wasn't bothered with. Though I didn't care for the game myself, I understood why the price was warranted. People would pay that much. lol

To a point. There is such a thing as being too expensive.

Yep. But I'm glad I didn't. Got Heart Gold on a downswing.


Kinda hoping the release of BDSP might bring down the prices of the originals and Platinum so I can snag a legitimate copy (especially Platinum) for collection lmao

Here's to hoping it does!
 

Mr.Munchlax

Great Ball Rank Trainer
Kinda hoping the release of BDSP might bring down the prices of the originals and Platinum so I can snag a legitimate copy (especially Platinum) for collection lmao :p
Honestly, I think BDSP may make the prices go higher since all of the complaints and criticism it’s been getting since day one is causing more people to seek out the originals for a “better” experience.

Even if the games are good and get positive reviews, the stigma will most likely last until the next generation rolls around and people start complaining about that. The same thing happened with SWSH due to all of its controversies, which is partly why the demand and prices for the DS games are so high now
 

PsychoLogical

Black and White, Yin and Yang, Light and Dark.
Honestly, I think BDSP may make the prices go higher since all of the complaints and criticism it’s been getting since day one is causing more people to seek out the originals for a “better” experience.

Even if the games are good and get positive reviews, the stigma will most likely last until the next generation rolls around and people start complaining about that. The same thing happened with SWSH due to all of its controversies, which is partly why the demand and prices for the DS games are so high now
The ironic thing about that scenario is that the original DP games aren’t even essentially/exactly fking good lmao.
 

masdog

The good old days weren’t always good…
Actually he pretty much said everything I was already saying. I’m not sure why you think it came off as “changes for change sake” when I said nothing of the sort
My apologies, then. I must have misread your intent. The way it was worded made it come across as change for change’s sake.
 

PrinceOfFacade

Ghost-Type Master
To a point. There is such a thing as being too expensive.

Yep. But I'm glad I didn't. Got Heart Gold on a downswing.

Nah, 'expensive' is relative to available funds and personal value. At least where non-necessities are concerned.

For games like Pokémon, the value can be incredibly high. Fans tend to make sentimental connections to the gens they either start with or return to. Trust me, there are fans out there who would pay $100 for a copy of Pokémon X. To you and I, it might sound like an insane thing to do, but to them? It's well worth it.

Same thing applies to any video game, really.
 

PrinceOfFacade

Ghost-Type Master
Wouldn't it be bonkers if we got a Mega Evolution trailer just days prior to the release of the game?

If we did end up getting Mega Evolution, I doubt they'd let us transfer them to Sword & Shield. I'd prefer it that way, anyway. Having that with Dynamaxing may be a bit too much.
 

IcySealeo

Well-Known Member
Must say that it seems to me like they try to make as less effort as possible on these remakes, and they are not pushing it like with past remakes. Every new trailer just shows the same game with new graphics, without any new features, like FRLG, HGSS and especially ORAS. Legends, unfortunately, overshadows the remakes.
 

thedarkdragon11

P4P Elite
Wouldn't it be bonkers if we got a Mega Evolution trailer just days prior to the release of the game?

If we did end up getting Mega Evolution, I doubt they'd let us transfer them to Sword & Shield. I'd prefer it that way, anyway. Having that with Dynamaxing may be a bit too much.
I'm now doubting ME and similar mechanics being present but I think I should wait for the starter's final evo and the box legends teasers...
 

PrinceOfFacade

Ghost-Type Master
I'm now doubting ME and similar mechanics being present but I think I should wait for the starter's final evo and the box legends teasers...

Oh, I think it's safe to say there won't be any new mega forms. I think if anything they'll just add the forms relevant to Gen 4.

With the exception of Bertha, every Elite Four member has a pokemon that is capable of mega evolving, as well as Cynthia herself. In Cynthia's case, it would be sort of a missed opportunity not to include Mega Garchomp.
 

janejane6178

Kaleido Star FOREVER in my heart <3
Must say that it seems to me like they try to make as less effort as possible on these remakes, and they are not pushing it like with past remakes. Every new trailer just shows the same game with new graphics, without any new features, like FRLG, HGSS and especially ORAS. Legends, unfortunately, overshadows the remakes.
Fully agree.
I was very hyped when they showed walking Pokemon and that revamped underground few months ago.
But ever since, they just show exactly the same scenes from DP just with abit upgraded graphics....
 
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