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Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl Speculation/Discussion Thread!

amoebo

amoeboVGC
I'm a little out of the loop on this stuff. Can I ask what you are referring to (and what LCD-ization is)? Also I'm tired, so that could be the reason I'm not understanding:)

LCD stands for Liquid Crystal Display. Liquid crystals do not emit light directly, but use a backlight or reflector to produce images in color or monochrome/black and white instead.

LCD stands for Lowest Common Denominator, which is the term I use to describe the path a company takes when the status of their brand begins to outweigh the actual pros/cons of the product. The product begins to innovate less and less, and attempt to appeal to the very basics of what makes the franchise, well, the franchise.

Think of it like iPhones, Disney/Marvel, Call of Duty, etc- they can sell on name alone, so they do not feel the drive to compete. Thankfully with BDSP and Legends it would appear TPCi is shifting from this.
 

1rkhachatryan

Call me Robert guys
Oh no, it's not just the main characters for me, the game just looks bad and old. It doesn't feel like a remake, it feels like a remaster at this point. The only things that look new are the battle scenes and even then it's like lets go battle style so it's not even like that's fresh.

Literally outside of like side games like smile or rumble, I've never just been outright not interested in a main pokemon game like I am with this.

The ONLY reason there is to go back to a region is if the graphics are way better then the original game, and all the games did that until now. I'd honestly prefer the DPP graphics to whatever this is supposed to be.
 

nel3

Crimson Dragon
this new series is... something. while i like Dawns character, im not a fan of the chibi style. i honestly dont know if i got another round of new pokemon games in me. i havent touched sword in a month and have fallen back on previous gen games.
 
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Lion Demon

Fairy Type Champion
Well they did it in the first place...
An issue which was fixed in Platinum. In fact, Platinum's Elite Four roster made fundamental changes to the team like Aaron replacing Dustox and Beautifly with Yanmega and Scizor and Lucian having Espeon and Gallade instead of Girafarig.
Maybe we should be a little less vehement about asserting that these games will have no new features until we actually know that. We've seen one trailer that barely showed off anything at all so far. We have utterly no idea whether or not new features will be present in these games or not so rehashing the same tired points about how terrible that is and how awful these games will be because of it is poisoning the well for no good reason.
The Pokémon company is marketing these games as "faithful recreations" of Diamond and Pearl so blame them for placing that kind of expectation.
Seems people's issues with graphics just boils down to just the two mc's chibis which even I think is a bit overblown. Otherwise, people have no issue with everything else in the overworld.
Blaming the issue to Chibi designs is a gross oversimplification if the real issue. The real issue is poor lighting, simplistic textures and no outline on the character models.
 

Carrick2097

Member
I'm not even a Platinum fanboy, but surely they would want a chance to redo the distortion world in glorious modern graphics? Even in the chibi cartoony graphic style that it's been designed in, it's a great chance to redo an iconic pokemon feature. Perhaps a Giratin! postgame? And what do people think will happen with pokemon originally hidden behind events e.g. Darkrai? I wonder if a DLC pack could make areas like new moon island and flower paradise available (I shouldn't think they will make Arceus available due to Legends Arceus, but I may be wrong)
 

Captain Jigglypuff

Leader of Jigglypuff Army
I'm not even a Platinum fanboy, but surely they would want a chance to redo the distortion world in glorious modern graphics? Even in the chibi cartoony graphic style that it's been designed in, it's a great chance to redo an iconic pokemon feature. Perhaps a Giratin! postgame? And what do people think will happen with pokemon originally hidden behind events e.g. Darkrai? I wonder if a DLC pack could make areas like new moon island and flower paradise available (I shouldn't think they will make Arceus available due to Legends Arceus, but I may be wrong)
Arceus I think will be made available regularly in Legends but as for the others, I can see Darkrai and Shaymin possibly being post game episodes with Cresselia playing more importance to Darkrai’s quest where you get the Lunar Wing to wake the boy up from his nightmare induced state but then the Member Card mysteriously appears in a delivery package at your house and your mom says that it is addressed to you and there’s a strange message inside that tells you to go to the abandoned Motel in Canalave City. From there the events play out like in Platinum except this time there is a forest maze that you must go through and each wrong path leads you to the starting point and you see Cresselia appear in front of you after you catch Darkrai and then it wakes you up by shining brightly in the dream world. As for Shaymin, I think that Lucas/Dawn or Prof Rowan will give you Oak’s Letter and at the white rock, a single Shaymin appears looking sad and Marley suggests that perhaps it’s sad because there is no one around for it to give gratitude. You then make the thankfulness note to the rock and a path suddenly appears. Marley suggests that the three of you follow the newly discovered path and along the way you can change camera angles and you see various wild Pokémon passing by and flying overhead such as Combee and Beautifly. Then you reach the Flower Paradise and this time we get a new cutscene that shows multiple Shaymin in both Formes frolicking in the fields. The Shaymin is extremely happy to see the other Shaymin and you and Marley try to get it to join the others but it seems to not want to leave your side. Marley then says that this Shaymin must have taken a liking to you and that it looks like it wants to join you on your adventure. You then can catch Shaymin.
 

PrinceOfFacade

Ghost-Type Master
I'm looking forward to digging for treasure again. Also wondering how they'll handle secret bases.

Back in 2009, Junichi Masuda stated that he originally wanted full online multiplayer co-op for up to 16 players in the Underground, but the DS couldn't handle it. We could possibly finally see that come to light.

As for the Secret Bases, I'm hoping they're at least as good as they were in ORAS. I'd love to have a gym again.
 

Autobot N

Autobot
Arceus I think will be made available regularly in Legends but as for the others, I can see Darkrai and Shaymin possibly being post game episodes with Cresselia playing more importance to Darkrai’s quest where you get the Lunar Wing to wake the boy up from his nightmare induced state but then the Member Card mysteriously appears in a delivery package at your house and your mom says that it is addressed to you and there’s a strange message inside that tells you to go to the abandoned Motel in Canalave City. From there the events play out like in Platinum except this time there is a forest maze that you must go through and each wrong path leads you to the starting point and you see Cresselia appear in front of you after you catch Darkrai and then it wakes you up by shining brightly in the dream world. As for Shaymin, I think that Lucas/Dawn or Prof Rowan will give you Oak’s Letter and at the white rock, a single Shaymin appears looking sad and Marley suggests that perhaps it’s sad because there is no one around for it to give gratitude. You then make the thankfulness note to the rock and a path suddenly appears. Marley suggests that the three of you follow the newly discovered path and along the way you can change camera angles and you see various wild Pokémon passing by and flying overhead such as Combee and Beautifly. Then you reach the Flower Paradise and this time we get a new cutscene that shows multiple Shaymin in both Formes frolicking in the fields. The Shaymin is extremely happy to see the other Shaymin and you and Marley try to get it to join the others but it seems to not want to leave your side. Marley then says that this Shaymin must have taken a liking to you and that it looks like it wants to join you on your adventure. You then can catch Shaymin.
Unfortunately, we'll probably get none of that and instead we'll just get the Pokemon through Mystery Gift
 

Reinhardt

Well-Known Member
I'm not even a Platinum fanboy, but surely they would want a chance to redo the distortion world in glorious modern graphics? Even in the chibi cartoony graphic style that it's been designed in, it's a great chance to redo an iconic pokemon feature. Perhaps a Giratin! postgame? And what do people think will happen with pokemon originally hidden behind events e.g. Darkrai? I wonder if a DLC pack could make areas like new moon island and flower paradise available (I shouldn't think they will make Arceus available due to Legends Arceus, but I may be wrong)
I could see Phione, Manaphy, Darkrai or Shaymin (but probably not all of them) being available in BD/SP's postgame storyline like Deoxys was in OR/AS, but failing that it's likely that at least one of them will be available in Legends: Arceus.
 

amoebo

amoeboVGC
I could see Phione, Manaphy, Darkrai or Shaymin (but probably not all of them) being available in BD/SP's postgame storyline like Deoxys was in OR/AS, but failing that it's likely that at least one of them will be available in Legends: Arceus.
Additionally it would be kind of weird to be able to access every area there (and hear reference to it) without it showing up at *some point* in some way.
 

Bus

Well-Known Member
Not going to lie, the LoZ: Link's Chibi-fication style of this remake is pretty much exactly what I wanted out of a D/P remake. I was unsure a Sw/Sh would even work for the Sinnoh region since it wasn't initially designed to be like that. Sure, they could manage to work something in (like making the whole Mountain Region be a big, vertical wild area bisecting the region) but the older games are better off in the style they were created in.

Just my opinion and preference of course, but I am glad it looks the way it does. It should be a simple, HD version of Diamond/Pearl while Legends: Arceus is the new & innovative path that everyone else wants. I honestly think its the best of both worlds.
 

Dragalge

Custom title: If specified, this will replace the

janejane6178

Kaleido Star FOREVER in my heart <3
Not going to lie, the LoZ: Link's Chibi-fication style of this remake is pretty much exactly what I wanted out of a D/P remake. I was unsure a Sw/Sh would even work for the Sinnoh region since it wasn't initially designed to be like that. Sure, they could manage to work something in (like making the whole Mountain Region be a big, vertical wild area bisecting the region) but the older games are better off in the style they were created in.

Just my opinion and preference of course, but I am glad it looks the way it does. It should be a simple, HD version of Diamond/Pearl while Legends: Arceus is the new & innovative path that everyone else wants. I honestly think its the best of both worlds.
I came to peace with the game being with this style, but the quality is very bad in my opinion. It isnt closed to the ones of LoZ:Links Awakening, in the slightest. In my opinion
 

amoebo

amoeboVGC
Art edits are dumb.
Would love to know why you feel this way, when one of the main art edits listed in your quoted post is "outlines"

My thoughts on the art style is that it's not great but it's not offensive. Inside buildings looks much uglier than outside which is odd.
 

Dragalge

Custom title: If specified, this will replace the
Would love to know why you feel this way, when one of the main art edits listed in your quoted post is "outlines"

My thoughts on the art style is that it's not great but it's not offensive. Inside buildings looks much uglier than outside which is odd.
Because you're not really fixing anything.
 

amoebo

amoeboVGC
Because you're not really fixing anything.
.....that's not really the goal? It's just to show that outlined models look marginally better? I am not fixing anything when I go on a spiel about how much my favorite sports team's coach sucks. It's just to show that common folk can make something *feel* better.
 

1rkhachatryan

Call me Robert guys

Bus

Well-Known Member
I came to peace with the game being with this style, but the quality is very bad in my opinion. It isnt closed to the ones of LoZ:Links Awakening, in the slightest. In my opinion
I think the next time they're ready to present it, things will appear a LOT better. That could just be hope on my part, but I think it appears the way it does due to the Japanese Watercolor-inspired art style they chose.
 
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