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Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl Speculation/Discussion Thread!

Pokefan_1987

#1 Biggest self proclaimed Rotom-Dex hater.
I just remembered something. Please don't let Mindy the trainer with a Haunter holding a Everstone prank return in these remakes. :mad: It's even located really late game in Snowpoint City which makes it more annoying.

I'll be training a Gengar for transfer just in case that prank comes back.
 
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Julia Artemis

Well-Known Member
I just remember something. Please don't let Mindy the trainer with a Haunter holding a Everstone prank return in these remakes. :mad: It's even located really late game in Snowpoint City which makes it more annoying.

I'll be training a Gengar for transfer just in case that prank comes back.

Though in the post game you could catch a level 16 Gengar so that kind of makes up for it, sort of.....
 

PsychoLogical

Black and White, Yin and Yang, Light and Dark.
Though in the post game you could catch a level 16 Gengar so that kind of makes up for it, sort of.....
If you had the GBA games that is. Which ofc are now no longer sold and authentic ones are now notoriously expensive and hard to find.
 

Flame Haji

Fairy Gym Leader
Do you guys think the game will have Swarms again? Like how we could catch Phanpy that way.
 

Locormus

Can we please get the older, old forum back?
More realistic than pessimistic. The game is being marketed as a faithful remake with a very similar artstyle and most of the changes shown so far have been minor QoL features whereas the only actual new content shown has been the Hideaways. They're probably not showing much because it's a copy/paste job and they don't have as much new stuff as remakes like HGSS and ORAS had.

I know why he said it, no need to explain.

However: "because it's a c/p-job, etc"..

That's your speculation at this point and not a fact. So you're validating his pessimism with an argument based on 'realism really' based on your own speculation (based on the minimal new features shown thus far). Which is fair, but not based on realism (based on facts), but on based on what's shown.

To be honest, the whole hideouts thing took everybody out of left field. Marketing only really starts when release it right around the corner. While I'm not expecting much, there might be some more things hidden from us yet.

Also, Legends is the new shiny concept that they don't want to drown out as of yet.. so it makes sense to keep the bDsP-reveals demure..
 

Maxim

Beyond repair
More realistic than pessimistic. The game is being marketed as a faithful remake with a very similar artstyle and most of the changes shown so far have been minor QoL features whereas the only actual new content shown has been the Hideaways. They're probably not showing much because it's a copy/paste job and they don't have as much new stuff as remakes like HGSS and ORAS had.
I don't see how the content of the game is an obstacle in creating pre-release hype.
It's not like the pre-release coverage of previous remakes was that centered around new content. Most of pre-release stuff was new artworks and presentation of familliar characters, plots and mechanics. Some new changes were highlighted, sure, but they never made a majority of revealed info (maybe ORAS was a bit different because its pre-release coverage was mostly centered around new Mega Evolution forms, but for the rest of remakes this is totally true). Also, the game is marketed at both old players that remember the originals and the new ones that don't (even more so for the latter, I would say), so the fact that the game comprises mostly of ported old features doesn't make that much of a difference for them.

And there is still a plenty of content to be revealed, such as Poketch, Pal Park or GTS - we know that those things are in the game, but they can't work exactly the same due to various technical reasons. There must be some twist to them, just like in the case of Underground.

I think this suspicious silence has more to do with the fact that the game is developed by ILCA, rather than Game Freak, so it's not treated as seriously by Nintendo/TPC authorities as a new GF game would be (I expect Legends Arceus to get more pre-release hype, although it has a little more time for that). Also, some people seem to believe that Nintendo is afraid that too much hype around Pokemon could "cannibalize" Metroid Prime 4 that comes out on October 8th and is heavily marketed as a big release. I don't believe in this theory that much, but who knows what's on their minds. Upcoming weeks will show if get more BDSP/LA news after the release of MP4.
 
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Ignition

Sinnoh Season
Do you guys think the game will have Swarms again? Like how we could catch Phanpy that way.
I think they’ll be in either as swarms or something akin to how ORAS opened up more Pokémon to be available once Primal Groudon/Kyogre was drafted.
 

Akashin

Well-Known Member
I think this suspicious silence has more to do with the fact that the game is developed by ILCA, rather than Game Freak, so it's not treated as seriously by Nintendo/TPC authorities as a new GF game would be (I expect Legends Arceus to get more pre-release hype, although it has a little more time for that). Also, some people seem to believe that Nintendo is afraid that too much hype around Pokemon could "cannibalize" Metroid Prime 4 that comes out on October 8th and is heavily marketed as a big release. I don't believe in this theory that much, but who knows what's on their minds. Upcoming weeks will show if get more BDSP/LA news after the release of MP4.
In general, pre-release content this Generation has been less frequent than in past years. I'd sooner attribute the silence (can we really call a month or so since the last major trailer 'silence', anyway...?) to that change in approach than any lack of interest in marketing BDSP, because Legends is only two months behind the remakes and is being handled similarly.
 

Orphalesion

Well-Known Member
In general, pre-release content this Generation has been less frequent than in past years. I'd sooner attribute the silence (can we really call a month or so since the last major trailer 'silence', anyway...?) to that change in approach than any lack of interest in marketing BDSP, because Legends is only two months behind the remakes and is being handled similarly.
Ah yeah. Do you mean the old "they don't show us much because they want to surprise us" idea?

Because that's what people said about USUM, where people insisted there'd be new Alolan Forms as a surprise and then there weren't any (And just to be clear I didn't buy USUM, so it's not me being salty about purchasing a product I didn't like)
And that's also what people said about Let's Go, where people insisted that there'd be, at the very least, new mythicals GF wants to surprise us with.

I'd love to be proven wrong, but current evidence suggest that if GF doesn't show much, then there's nothing much (new) to show.
 

janejane6178

Kaleido Star FOREVER in my heart <3
Ah yeah. Do you mean the old "they don't show us much because they want to surprise us" idea?

Because that's what people said about USUM, where people insisted there'd be new Alolan Forms as a surprise and then there weren't any (And just to be clear I didn't buy USUM, so it's not me being salty about purchasing a product I didn't like)
And that's also what people said about Let's Go, where people insisted that there'd be, at the very least, new mythicals GF wants to surprise us with.

I'd love to be proven wrong, but current evidence suggest that if GF doesn't show much, then there's nothing much (new) to show.
Accurate
 

Mr.Munchlax

Great Ball Rank Trainer
Ah yeah. Do you mean the old "they don't show us much because they want to surprise us" idea?

Because that's what people said about USUM, where people insisted there'd be new Alolan Forms as a surprise and then there weren't any (And just to be clear I didn't buy USUM, so it's not me being salty about purchasing a product I didn't like)
And that's also what people said about Let's Go, where people insisted that there'd be, at the very least, new mythicals GF wants to surprise us with.

I'd love to be proven wrong, but current evidence suggest that if GF doesn't show much, then there's nothing much (new) to show.
They literally just did that with Sword & Shield, plus they kept a good chunk of content from the DLC a mystery until their release dates too.

Yes, I agree that USUM revealed pretty much everything before the games come out, but so far we've seen Gen 8 taking the opposite approach. Maybe they're hiding a bunch of content like SWSH did, maybe they're only hiding a decent amount of it like the IoA & the Crown Tundra, but at this point saying Gen 8 hype cycles are the same as Gen 7's is no different than comparing apples to oranges
 

Bolt the Cat

Bringing the Thunder
They literally just did that with Sword & Shield, plus they kept a good chunk of content from the DLC a mystery until their release dates too.

Yes, I agree that USUM revealed pretty much everything before the games come out, but so far we've seen Gen 8 taking the opposite approach. Maybe they're hiding a bunch of content like SWSH did, maybe they're only hiding a decent amount of it like the IoA & the Crown Tundra, but at this point saying Gen 8 hype cycles are the same as Gen 7's is no different than comparing apples to oranges

Aside from a fair number of new Pokemon and storyline stuff, SwSh's marketing really didn't hide all that much. Maybe some post game battle facilities, but in general all of the major features were revealed before the game released. Same with the DLC. I'm not really seeing a significant difference between 7th and 8th gen's marketing.
 

Orphalesion

Well-Known Member
They literally just did that with Sword & Shield, plus they kept a good chunk of content from the DLC a mystery until their release dates too.

Yes, I agree that USUM revealed pretty much everything before the games come out, but so far we've seen Gen 8 taking the opposite approach. Maybe they're hiding a bunch of content like SWSH did, maybe they're only hiding a decent amount of it like the IoA & the Crown Tundra, but at this point saying Gen 8 hype cycles are the same as Gen 7's is no different than comparing apples to oranges
Bolt the Cat already refuted your post very well.
In addition to that I'd like to point at PL :Arceus (à game that's still a few months further away that BDSP) where we already know that there will be new regional forms and évolutions (we don't know the number yet, be we know they will be in there)
Plus...with this being a "faithful remake" .... What surprises do people even expect? Best we can hope for is post-game or DLC missions for the mythicals.
 

Akashin

Well-Known Member
Ah yeah. Do you mean the old "they don't show us much because they want to surprise us" idea?

Because that's what people said about USUM, where people insisted there'd be new Alolan Forms as a surprise and then there weren't any (And just to be clear I didn't buy USUM, so it's not me being salty about purchasing a product I didn't like)
And that's also what people said about Let's Go, where people insisted that there'd be, at the very least, new mythicals GF wants to surprise us with.

I'd love to be proven wrong, but current evidence suggest that if GF doesn't show much, then there's nothing much (new) to show.
No, that's not what I mean.

I was not weighing in on whether or not the lack of information is indicative of a lack of information to give; personally, I'm inclined to agree with that sentiment, given everything else we've seen so far. I was replying to the notion that the lack of information is because these games are being treated less seriously in terms of pre-release coverage, when in general this Generation has been far less trigger-happy with its information reveals than Gens 6 and 7 were.
 

Captain Jigglypuff

Leader of Jigglypuff Army
No, that's not what I mean.

I was not weighing in on whether or not the lack of information is indicative of a lack of information to give; personally, I'm inclined to agree with that sentiment, given everything else we've seen so far. I was replying to the notion that the lack of information is because these games are being treated less seriously in terms of pre-release coverage, when in general this Generation has been far less trigger-happy with its information reveals than Gens 6 and 7 were.
Gen VI and VII revealed way too much in terms of info to the point that the only real surprise players had when it came to ORAS was the Delta Episode And Deoxys being a programmed encounter without an event to trigger it. And USUM only had the Rainbow Rocket Episode being the only thing not known about previously before the games were released.
 

Auraninja

Eh, ragazzo!
Yeah, I don't even know how Gen 7 and Gen 8 news are even comparable with the frequency of Gen 7 news, and how most Pokemon/forms were revealed, compared to how Gen 8 was less frequent and left more Pokemon under wraps.
 
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