I developed a rain team. The surf + storm drain makes this awesome. Kingdra with swift swim in endless rain is gonna be so insane! (Maybe they should ban it )
I would like to know your opinion on my team, and get help with the things I have a ? for or have slashed.
Here it is;
;423-e;Gastrodon @ Rindo Berry
Modest/Storm Drain
4HP/184DEF/248SpA/72SpD(these get to balance defenses. Increasing the defenses like this actually decreases my overall percent damage taken, as Gastrodon already has high HP.)
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Recover/Protect
-HP[ground]
At first, I know what you're thinking. WTF? Why HP instead of Earth Power? Well, to tell the truth, I never RNGd in gen iv, and I'm not going to start now, being that Earth Power is a Platinum tutor move, and I'm willing to sacrifice 20BP on a semi-filler for near perfect IVs. So, onto the pokémon, Gastrodon with rain and storm drain and STAB and a spread attack=dangerous. The rest are semi-fillers. Recover for healing. I have been using this Gastrodon for a while now, and I rarely use protect. I honestly have only used it in ~1% of the times I have attacked. Does anyone have another viable move to put here that adds coverage to the set? I have considered a one hit water type move, or rain dance (so I don't have to switch poly when there is another weather poke.
;186; Politoed @ Absorb Bulb/Wacan Berry
Timid
4HP/4DEF/248SpA/252Spe(I took 1 away from SpA b/c HP[Grass] gives an SpA IV of 30 so the 4 EVs would go towards being 1/2 of a point, which doesn't matter)
-Surf
-Psychic
-HP[Grass]
-Protect
Surf to up Gastrodon. it is also a x1.5 x1.5 x.75 move and is respectable for his SpA. HP for water absorbers/storm drainers. Protect to survive one more turn. Gastrodon's +1 Surf in rain and max SpA and the same Gastrodon's +2 Surf (plus 1 from politoed surf, +another 1 from politoed second surf) will not 2HKO Politoed. So if he doesn't take outside damage, he gets to get hit by Gastrodon twice at minimum (unless the BS crit haxes me, but that's another thing)
;230; Kingdra @White Herb/LO/?
Modest/Swift Swim
?HP/252SpA/?Spe (I haven't figured out what speed I want to hit. I will put the necessary EVs in speed and the rest in HP)
-Surf
-Dragon Pulse
-Clear Smog/Rain Dance
-Draco Meteor/Ice Beam
Awesome. So awesome, they banned it in singles with Politoed. (I think in doubles too.) Surf. Again. Awesome. Also helps Gastrodon. Clear Smog for set up sweepers (so I can ignore them as they curse repeatedly in the BS ). Dragon Pulse for after a Draco Meteor. Meteor is more for if the opponent has few pokémon left or I need a strong attack, Dragon Pulse for consistency. Through testing (without actually having Kingdra) I have determined that I may want rain dance on Kindgra. I have been seeing more and more opposing weather teams, and I want my team to be flexible. Because Kingdra only needs its STABs to be good on the offensive side, Rain Dance could allow me to keep politoed in on opponent weather teams.
;454; Toxicroak @Focus Sash
Jolly/Dry Skin
12HP/244ATK/252Spe
-Drain Punch
-Sucker Punch
-Fake Out
-Substitute
First off, does he absorb surf even with a sub up? If so, I will definitely use sub. he gets on this team because (1) he abuses rain and absorbs surfs and (2) he has a fighting move for some better coverage (as my other moves aren't too diverse in typing), and can kill ferro and Empoleon and other steels. Fake Out for holding something down, Sub for a barrier. 12 HP EVs to get 160HP so I make 40HP subs and Regain 20HP from Dry Skin Each turn. If I have a partner using surf, this thing actually regains more HP than it loses in one turn from a sub. this makes it easy to get back to max HP and use focus sash, which I have to prevent hax, and because it's the rain and I can
Please Rate!
Suggestions are welcome, but at this point, I mainly would like opinions on it and which slashed moves you think I should use.
P.S. I will not go back for generation 4 moves.
P.P.S. Even without using the awesomeness of SS Kingdra, I got to battle 56 and am still going using a filler named Raikou (who has not done ANYTHING that Kingdra could not have).
I would like to know your opinion on my team, and get help with the things I have a ? for or have slashed.
Here it is;
;423-e;Gastrodon @ Rindo Berry
Modest/Storm Drain
4HP/184DEF/248SpA/72SpD(these get to balance defenses. Increasing the defenses like this actually decreases my overall percent damage taken, as Gastrodon already has high HP.)
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Recover/Protect
-HP[ground]
At first, I know what you're thinking. WTF? Why HP instead of Earth Power? Well, to tell the truth, I never RNGd in gen iv, and I'm not going to start now, being that Earth Power is a Platinum tutor move, and I'm willing to sacrifice 20BP on a semi-filler for near perfect IVs. So, onto the pokémon, Gastrodon with rain and storm drain and STAB and a spread attack=dangerous. The rest are semi-fillers. Recover for healing. I have been using this Gastrodon for a while now, and I rarely use protect. I honestly have only used it in ~1% of the times I have attacked. Does anyone have another viable move to put here that adds coverage to the set? I have considered a one hit water type move, or rain dance (so I don't have to switch poly when there is another weather poke.
;186; Politoed @ Absorb Bulb/Wacan Berry
Timid
4HP/4DEF/248SpA/252Spe(I took 1 away from SpA b/c HP[Grass] gives an SpA IV of 30 so the 4 EVs would go towards being 1/2 of a point, which doesn't matter)
-Surf
-Psychic
-HP[Grass]
-Protect
Surf to up Gastrodon. it is also a x1.5 x1.5 x.75 move and is respectable for his SpA. HP for water absorbers/storm drainers. Protect to survive one more turn. Gastrodon's +1 Surf in rain and max SpA and the same Gastrodon's +2 Surf (plus 1 from politoed surf, +another 1 from politoed second surf) will not 2HKO Politoed. So if he doesn't take outside damage, he gets to get hit by Gastrodon twice at minimum (unless the BS crit haxes me, but that's another thing)
;230; Kingdra @White Herb/LO/?
Modest/Swift Swim
?HP/252SpA/?Spe (I haven't figured out what speed I want to hit. I will put the necessary EVs in speed and the rest in HP)
-Surf
-Dragon Pulse
-Clear Smog/Rain Dance
-Draco Meteor/Ice Beam
Awesome. So awesome, they banned it in singles with Politoed. (I think in doubles too.) Surf. Again. Awesome. Also helps Gastrodon. Clear Smog for set up sweepers (so I can ignore them as they curse repeatedly in the BS ). Dragon Pulse for after a Draco Meteor. Meteor is more for if the opponent has few pokémon left or I need a strong attack, Dragon Pulse for consistency. Through testing (without actually having Kingdra) I have determined that I may want rain dance on Kindgra. I have been seeing more and more opposing weather teams, and I want my team to be flexible. Because Kingdra only needs its STABs to be good on the offensive side, Rain Dance could allow me to keep politoed in on opponent weather teams.
;454; Toxicroak @Focus Sash
Jolly/Dry Skin
12HP/244ATK/252Spe
-Drain Punch
-Sucker Punch
-Fake Out
-Substitute
First off, does he absorb surf even with a sub up? If so, I will definitely use sub. he gets on this team because (1) he abuses rain and absorbs surfs and (2) he has a fighting move for some better coverage (as my other moves aren't too diverse in typing), and can kill ferro and Empoleon and other steels. Fake Out for holding something down, Sub for a barrier. 12 HP EVs to get 160HP so I make 40HP subs and Regain 20HP from Dry Skin Each turn. If I have a partner using surf, this thing actually regains more HP than it loses in one turn from a sub. this makes it easy to get back to max HP and use focus sash, which I have to prevent hax, and because it's the rain and I can
Please Rate!
Suggestions are welcome, but at this point, I mainly would like opinions on it and which slashed moves you think I should use.
P.S. I will not go back for generation 4 moves.
P.P.S. Even without using the awesomeness of SS Kingdra, I got to battle 56 and am still going using a filler named Raikou (who has not done ANYTHING that Kingdra could not have).
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