Liz Azzimagica
Angelic Trainer
I can't say enough how much I'm looking forward to this episode...seeing butterfree again, I think I'm gonna cry when I see the pics ^^
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BWS2DA!E8 - Ash & Butterfree! Until the Day We Meet Again!! [FIRST POST 06/01]
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playerking
Sick of dealing with idiots.
Preview
- Multiple Butterfee flying in the sky.
- Ash playing with Caterpie.
- Caterpie fights Ursaring using String Shot and evolves.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HINSXk9z7OM
- Multiple Butterfee flying in the sky.
- Ash playing with Caterpie.
- Caterpie fights Ursaring using String Shot and evolves.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HINSXk9z7OM
WaterShuriken
"I..I..Iron Tail, Pikachu."
Why can't Ash keep this Butterfree? First this and then Dunsparce a week later. The writers like to troll me.
AceDetective
Banned
I wonder how Metapod evolves. Rematch with Ursaring maybe or vs TR? Or maybe just randomly after training/bonding with Ash
Locormus
Can we please get the older, old forum back?
Good lord they better not dare to touch their hands on those scenes! I don't want to see Ash's Caterpie evolving in a shiny blue light with red eyes, the String Shot evolution was unique and shouldn't be changed. After watching the preview, I'm sure that I don't ever want to see these scenes remade. But apparently, Ash's Butterfree isn't even appearing in the flesh.
Wow.. If this is it, then I'm not even going to watch it. It's definitely just Ash 'reliving' his first capture with this wild Caterpie, that doesn't have half the personality that Ash's first capture had. Yet again fallen victim to misleading Best Wishes-titles/episodes.
Episode starts:
- Group arrives on Migration Island
- Ash spots a Caterpie, remembers his own.
- Apparently, this Caterpie has missed the Butterfree/evolution-spree.
- Ash wants to help Caterpie evolve, but it keeps on falling asleep..
- Through circumstances, it manages to evolve twice.
- Butterfree leaves to be with the rest of the Butterfree.
- End of episode.
Really, I don't even want to see this episode anymore.
WaterShuriken
"I..I..Iron Tail, Pikachu."
Probably through bonding with Ash, which is ironic as it took 51 episodes for Swadloon to do the same.
...Oh boy, the art & animation look absolutely horrifying in this episode.
Kinda looking forward to this episode. I didn't find Ash's Butterfree that spectacular after evolution and OS021 I mostly love for nostalgia reasons, so I don't think anything about the content of this story will "offend" me (except if it's a mindless rehash instead of an homage). I like cute episodes, and cuteness definitely seems to be featured hereif only it wasn't for the horrid art style.... It's also always great to see Ash taking care of and being emotionally invested in a Pokémon, so that's something I'm excited for.
Kinda looking forward to this episode. I didn't find Ash's Butterfree that spectacular after evolution and OS021 I mostly love for nostalgia reasons, so I don't think anything about the content of this story will "offend" me (except if it's a mindless rehash instead of an homage). I like cute episodes, and cuteness definitely seems to be featured here
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Locormus
Can we please get the older, old forum back?
It isn't ironic. If something's ironic, I can at least laugh at it. It's just another showcase how the writers can't handle Ash this series.
Can't agree more. I'm starting to think that 'Butterfree' in the title isn't even referring to the old Butterfree. It seems as if Da is rehashing plot/thematical elements from all memorable OS-episodes and giving them lackluster endings.
- Zoroark: Island of Giant Pokemon - But with none of the plot (groups intermingling to find their friends again) or themes (pokideology) that made the episode stand out.
- Croconaw: Squirtle Squad
- Butterfree: Butterfree-rehash
- Jirachi: Ghost of Maiden Peak? Would probably give the Jirachi-episode too much credit anyway.
- You tell me..
Honyemitsu, a combination of forest grumps, scare in the air, and any episode with beedrill.
Blue Saturday
Unfurl your Blessed Wings!
What absolutely terrible, off-model art.
Aside from that, I love the preview. The Butterfree and Caterpie are both really adorable, I like the species a lot itself so that probably helps. Caterpie looks full of personality, not an incompetent and low confidence-having one like Satoshi's but a big eater and lazy kind of kid and a bit hyper. It looks like a really cute episodes, I'm eagerly looking forward to it.
Aside from that, I love the preview. The Butterfree and Caterpie are both really adorable, I like the species a lot itself so that probably helps. Caterpie looks full of personality, not an incompetent and low confidence-having one like Satoshi's but a big eater and lazy kind of kid and a bit hyper. It looks like a really cute episodes, I'm eagerly looking forward to it.
Haunter ゴースト
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This episode looks great.
The animation looks fine, and I fail to see how the plot is rehash anymore. Ash is purposely training the Caterpie so that it can evolve and migrate with the other Butterfree.
If it was a rehash, Ash would simply have wanted to catch the Caterpie, let it evolve on it's own accord over the space of two episodes and eventually have it fall in love 15 episodes down the line.
The animation looks fine, and I fail to see how the plot is rehash anymore. Ash is purposely training the Caterpie so that it can evolve and migrate with the other Butterfree.
If it was a rehash, Ash would simply have wanted to catch the Caterpie, let it evolve on it's own accord over the space of two episodes and eventually have it fall in love 15 episodes down the line.
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A rehash doesn't have to literally be the exact same things happening. Obvious he wasn't going to catch another butterfree and happen to release 15 episodes later. It's a rehash because ash bonds with a caterpie, and it evolves into a metapod by stringshoting a threatening bigger pokemon. Then it will evolve into its aspiring butterfree form and it will have an emotional leave of ash, which is that original shot we saw.
Haunter ゴースト
Well-Known Member
So any similarities to an episode count as a rehash?
Ash, Iris and Cilan walk in every single BW episode, I can't believe the writers are so ridiculous enough to rehash that, they should ride bikes instead.
NeoDude-5000
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Hopefully Ash's Buterfree appears in flashbacks, I miss the old bug
Almighty Zard
He has returned.
i never thought i'd see one of the anime's most psyco pokemon actually get strung up by string shot.
Wow, way to be that guy. If there are sequential events very similar or even nearly resemble events of a previous episode in a blatant manner, that is rehashing. Things like in honeymitsu, TRio acting as dake ticket venders trying to get the gang to on a boat. In scare in the air they did exact same, but for a blimp. Or the obvious tepig being abandoned by its former cruel trainer, like chimchar and charmander. They have rehashed so much over. The years, but it doesn't automatically make it a bad thing.
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So what? The vast majority of the anime's plots aren't remotely focused on their chosen mode of transportation. It's just a detail.
An episode's entire plot-line though? That's important, and when they are replicating old plots, even if the minor details and pacing are changed to accommodate a single episode plot, that's a rehash. If they were even trying to not make this look like a rehash, they wouldn't have used the Caterpie line in the first place.
Haunter ゴースト
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Ridiculous.
The whole plot of this episode is the fact that Ash see's Caterpie and Butterfree, and hypes over his old Butterfree. Because of this, he wants to help this new Caterpie evolve so it can go and migrate with the other Butterfree which they are known to do. From the summaries and previews, we see that Ash tries to train Caterpie but it is too lazy, until it ends up fighting an Ursaring. It wins and evolves. It somehow evolves again although i'm not sure how and then it goes off to migrate as planned.
The whole plot of Ash's Butterfree episodes back then was that Ash wanted to catch his first Pokemon which he did. His Caterpie evolved, after defeating Team Rocket. An episode later, Metapod fights a trainer but winds up being caught by a swarm of Beedrill. Ash saves Metapod and it evolves into Butterfree. Roughly 16 episodes pass and Butterfree falls in love, so to be with it's loved one it goes and migrates with the rest.
TWO ENTIRELY DIFFERENT PLOTS.
This is not a rehash at all.
If this isn't the case as you apperently pointed out, I suppose Team Rocket's many appearances where they blast off are rehash's too. So that's 500+ episodes down the drain.
You realize the plot of this episode is heavily based on Ash's love for his old Butterfree. Why would they make a reference episode if it showcased any other line of Pokemon?
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