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Can Drew Last? I DUNNO!

So when's he gonna go?


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cold_katanagirl

Link Master
Repeat topic in the shipping forum, Jo-Jo said spoiler forum, CyberCubed said somebody do it, so I'm doing it. HUZZAH!

Should this be in polls marked with spoilers? I don't know... Huh. <_<

Anyway, the question was how long do you think Drew can last? Will he stay even when he's beaten? Will he be gone as soon as he's defeated? When will be be defeated? WILL HE EVER BE DEFEATED?

Debate here and... whatever.
 

Jo-Jo

blows stuff uhup
Well, we all know May's going to beat him eventually - that's his main function in the plot. And if Gary's anything to go by, chances are he'll be written out once that happens. The question is when. I'm thinking D/P region at the earliest.
 

Mew2

Team Rocket's Enemy
I think that he'll stay on the show until he's defeated by May and then he'll leave. When, or even if, May will defeat him is another story.
 
Jo-Jo said:
And if Gary's anything to go by, chances are he'll be written out once that happens.
Once again you've taken the words right out of my mouth.

But look:

Ash vs Gary: The rivally was unressolved in their first league (Kanto), then in their second league (Johto), Ash won and Gary's story got ended when he followed Oak's footsteps.

May vs Drew: It was left unresolved in the first league (Hoenn Grand Festival) and Kanto Grand Festival might just do what Johto league did for Ash and Gary.

Seems like what will happen in my oppinion, but I wouldn't mind Drew staying in the show for a while. He's my joint favourite charecter (guess with who ;D).
 
well i'm not sure........ but if he does leave when May beats him (or whatever)... then its just like Gary......... > >
but personally i dunno.........XP
 

ghost master

the kawaiist thing
I actually think that this season harley will go. With the start of this season it became clear that the writers really aren't going to go any farther and may is going to still fall for his tricks whether or not they're different. It just seems to me like harley was pretty much returned this saga to add further depth in the quest. I think Drew will still play the role of the main rival. Don't get me wrong I like Harley a lot more than Drew in fact. I also think this will be his last saga because how long will he go on losing. IMO he is pretty much done when he defeats may and is done with the contests for that region. Although knowing the anime Harley won't win and May would just beat him badly and some sort of emotional thing happens and they resolve their conflicts and then Harley wishes good luck in the rest of the GF and then she loses against Drew or something and then Harley is gone forever. Although know that I think about it I consider jessie her main rival since Jessie actually started before her and has entered a lot of other contests with May. The only thing I wish is if Jessie one for once and if the writers are insistant on may always beating Jessie how about May not being allowed to enter due to they already have contestants.
 

CyberCubed

Yeah, ok!
Let's see:

Ash/Gary's rivalry lasted 4 seasons:

Kanto = 1 season
Johto = 3 seasons

4 seasons total.

(Gary only appeared in the last two episodes of the Orange Islands so that doesn't count)

May/Drew's rivalry so far will last for at least 4 seasons:

Hoenn = 3 seasons
New Kanto = 1 season

4 seasons total.

4 seasons = 4 seasons.

Thus I believe that May might beat Drew at this GF.

Reason #1: Their rivalry is following Ash/Gary's exactly. They start off as bitter rivals, start to become friends, and then the rookie beats the rival.

Reason #2: The only way the Kanto GF won't be a rehash of the Hoenn one is if May beats Drew. I don't know about anyone else but I'd find it really stale and repetitive if May and Drew battle and Drew beats May AGAIN.

Not to mention the writers have been building up a LOT to May's eventually triumph over Drew. Everytime they battled, May lost. Drew has beaten May 3 times, that's 2 more losses than Gary ever handed Ash.

My prediction:

May will beat Drew at the Kanto Grand Festival.
Drew may be written out once that happens, as once rivals are beaten, it's hard to keep them interesting and/or have a point in the show.
 
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TeddiUrsa

Well-Known Member
maybe they´ll do a kanto league-like outcome of the kanto GF, which means that drew will loose BEFORE he could ever batle may. may would loose after that to the person who beat drew.

It would be a way to carry drew over to the DP saga.

But maybe..there aren´t contests in the DP games anymore and may wil leave the show after the BF saga, so maybe may will beat drew at the kanto GF, it´s really hard to predict.
 

CyberCubed

Yeah, ok!
Yes but Drew losing to someone else and never facing May would be a major cop out.

They got away with it with Ash/Gary because Gary had never beaten Ash before that point.

For the second GF, most people want to see May have a rematch with Drew and beat him. Since he sent her packing in the last GF, and humiliated her and her baby Squirtle with his Flygon in the Arcanine episode, it's only fitting that she finally triumphs over him.

Likewise May would then probably lose to Robert or some super strong coordinator or something after she beats Drew.
 
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Mawile_Eyes

Guest
I think that never happens, Drew is always a cool, cold and s**y rival. There's no reason to let him go, even after he is defeated by May.
 

Momoko Lover

Hop, Skip, Jump!!!
I think that Drew might lose to May in the KGF(Kanto Grand Festival,) and will get shafted. If they are planning to do that, they may start to show him more often, but who knows?
 

CyberCubed

Yeah, ok!
Gary only got 3 episodes in Johto before the Johto league.

I wouldn't be all that surprised if Drew only appeared 2 more times before the Grand Festival, especially since the writers appear to be picking up the pace now rushing the contests/brains.

The writers are running into the same problem with Drew as they ran into Gary in Johto. They made the rivals too nice. A lot of people hated "nice" Gary. And Drew has been teaming up with May a lot more recently than actually ridiculing her like he used to do. And I know some people would hate it if Drew became a "Mr. Nice guy" as well.

If Drew only appears for 2 more episodes before the GF, I'd be confident that this is more or less his final region.
 

The Big Al

I just keeping Octo
For some odd reason I had rather bad thoughts when I read this thread's title. My mind must really be in the gutter.

I guess he would leave after being defeated. I don't see much purpose to him except to be ahead of May.
 

Feity

Storm Trainer
CyberCubed said:
Gary only got 3 episodes in Johto before the Johto league.

I wouldn't be all that surprised if Drew only appeared 2 more times before the Grand Festival, especially since the writers appear to be picking up the pace now rushing the contests/brains.

The writers are running into the same problem with Drew as they ran into Gary in Johto. They made the rivals too nice. A lot of people hated "nice" Gary. And Drew has been teaming up with May a lot more recently than actually ridiculing her like he used to do. And I know some people would hate it if Drew became a "Mr. Nice guy" as well.


If Drew only appears for 2 more episodes before the GF, I'd be confident that this is more or less his final region.
That's what Harley is for
 

CyberCubed

Yeah, ok!
Except they've turned Harley into May's punching bag, so it's getting really hard to take him seriously at this point.
 
G

Geki

Guest
I don't know when Drew will leave, but we hardly ever see him anyway..
 

DarkWobbuffet

BEEEEAAAARR!!!
Ah, you can't wait for him to leave either Cold Katana Girl? XD

I have a feeling they're gonna give him the Shigeru treatmeat and get rid of him after Haruka defeats him in a Grand Festival. Sooner the better I say. :p
 

ChaosMage

Izit cuz I is black?
People who don't like "nice" Drew or Gary, they are undeniably two trainers with a great love for pokemon. They looked down on their rookie rivals, but now respect them. Although Gary had beaten Ash by the time of the Johto League, he had seen Ash become really powerful and even a threat. Drew respects May as a strong coordinator, and hates Harley because he gives coordinators a bad name.

Also, some things to think about;
What if there are no contests in the DP region?
Gary's voice actor quit, so he had to be written out
Gary still had a special about him. He isn't forgotten.
Harley was defeated, but still returns regularly.
 

Jo-Jo

blows stuff uhup
I'm not sure about the nice argument. The reason some people got fed up with Johto!Gary is because he was a total arsehole to begin with and then changed into a nice guy. So the people who liked his original, gittish personality were biased in its favour. It's a bit like the fans in the Buffy The Vampire Slayer fandom who got p*ssed off when the writers redeemed Spike. But Drew's always been on the side o' good - that was made clear in his first episode - so there's no reason why anyone would complain about him unless they just never liked him to begin with. And in any case, we have Harley around now to be May's evil rival, which should tide over the people who can't stand the protagonist and his/her main rival becoming friends.

Speaking of Harley, I don't think May will beat Drew while he's still on the show. Since his first appearance, Harley's turned into May's main antagonist. The writers have focussed more on May vs. Harley in recent episodes than they have on May vs. Drew. Examples:

A Cacturne For The Worse - Harley's debut
Introduces Harley and establishes his hatred of May. The whole episode revolves around Harley's attempts to make May lose the contest, ending up with a big battle between them that May wins. The focus is exclusively on May vs. Harley.

The Wynaut of Mirage Island
There's some May vs. Drew stuff at the beginning, where they both show off their ribbons and start up a Pokemon battle, but before long Team Rocket show up, the entire group is blasted off and lands on the island, and May and Drew are separated from the others. The rest of the ep is about them working together to stay alive, bond with Wynauts, rescue the berries, fight Team Rocket, etc. So this episode was more about the May-Drew friendship.

The Grand Festival
Might as well lump all three episodes in together. The GF was, for the most part, all about May vs. Harley. For the first two eps, Harley hangs around with May, pretending to be her friend and trying to sabotage her. Eventually she finds out the truth, and she battles and defeats him in the third ep.

Drew, however, spends most of the time spying on May from a distance, clearly disapproving of May/Harley but not antagonising May at any point. He once tries to get May to stop being so friendly with Harley by telling the both of them that they shouldn't be so open with their opponents, but otherwise hardly even speaks. When he re-enters the story, it's to overhear Harley gloating over his successful attempt to trick May, confront him and tell May the truth. He turns into her ally against Harley at that point, though immediately afterwards he yells at her and stalks off.

The final episode includes May battling Harley and Drew, so both rivalries are featured. However once she loses the match to Drew, she goes on to root for him in the rest of their matches (she's very disappointed when he loses to Robert), and has a couple of moments with him later, one at the closing ceremony and one at the party afterwards. The second of these, incidentally, is when Drew announces his intention to some day beat Robert, introducing a whole new plotline into the mix.

So overall, the Grand Festival was mostly about May-Harley rivalry and May-Drew friendship, with a comparatively small amount of screentime given over to the May-Drew rivalry.

Catch Arcanine! (can't remember the proper title)
Drew's back, he and May spend the ep competing over who's going to be the one to capture Arcanine, and they even have a battle that they actually get to finish (gasp!). But in the end, they team up to blast off Team Rocket and save the Growlithe family, and both of them agree not to catch Arcanine after all. So it's kinda rivally, but kinda not.

The Saffron contest
Both episodes, again, are all about May vs. Harley, ending in that infamous Squirtle vs. Ariados match that so many people hate so much.

So ever since Harley came onto the scene, he seems to have turned into May's main rival, while Drew... hasn't been pushed into the background exactly, but there has been a definite shift in the May-Drew dynamic.

To get back to the topic, IMO what this means is that for now, the writers will probably carry on focussing on May vs. Harley. I don't think there's any possibility of them not facing each other in the Kanto Grand Festival, or of May not winning when they do. And since neither Ash nor May have ever beaten two important rivals in a contest (with good reason, it'd mess up the pacing), it doesn't seem at all likely that May will go on to beat Drew right after Harley. In fact, it would be a disservice to May vs. Drew to have it occur almost as an afterthought in that manner. Drew was introduced as May's main rival, and IMO May won't beat him until after he's become her main rival again - which won't happen until after Harley's left the show.

So what I imagine will happen in this year's GF is that Drew will lose to another trainer - maybe Harley, that would be interesting, or Robert - while May beats Harley and then loses to someone else.

Once Kanto is over, though, I imagine the writers will probably resolve May-Drew in the D/P region, unless they come up with a very inventive way to keep dragging it out.
 

cold_katanagirl

Link Master
Juptile said:
Ah, you can't wait for him to leave either Cold Katana Girl? XD
I like Drew (and Contestshipping... If that matters). I just don't act like it. o_o

Oh yeah, forgot to say my own opinion. Think he'll get beat by May and leave.

When? I'm going to lose it if May loses to Drew again in this league. She has to beat him now.

I never really thought about Harley though. Has he ever beaten May at this point?
 
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