can some one help me(i need someone to rmt)

[manuel the pokemon master]

can some one rate my team here it is:
Groudon hasty
item:salac berry
moveset:
overheat
anceint power
earthquake
solar beam

rayquaza hasty
item:leftovers
moveset:
dragon claw
ice beam
flame thrower
thunderbolt

kyogre calm
item:salac berry
moveset:
surf
calm mind
ice beam
thunder

sceptile modest
item:scope lens
moveset
leaf blade
thunder punch
dragon claw
crunch

lugia jolly
item salac berry
moveset
psychic
calm mind
recover
ice beam

mewtwo quirky
item:scope lens
moveset
psychic
thunder
ice beam
recover

please dont tell me about legendarie's nature i cant get them.

 

[b0r3d]

file > export to text or if this is ingame go to ingame rate

 

[Hey Micky!]

file > export to text or if this is ingame go to ingame rate

please dont tell me about legendarie's nature i cant get them.

2+2 = 4 With the onslaught of JAA I wouldn't be surprised if this was for a tournament.

Now on topic: 1st things 1st, your foremat is horrible. Capitlise things when eccesery and either use a "- " or "~ " before posting a move or adding an extra line separating the moves from the Items/Pokemon/Nature details. Also, EVs are very much appreciated in CRMT. If this is for 2v2 state it, with the JAA coming up I wouldn't be half surprised and the dynamics between 2v2 and 1v1 play are drastically different. I'll refrain from 'rating' until you can inform us of:

- Mode of play (1v1 or 2v2)
- What it's for (tournament, "friends" or if you psoted in the wrong forum thinking Battle Tower = Competitive)
- EVs, if possible.

 

[aipomkong]

lollerbeam groudon =/

rock slide / earthquake / fire blast / swords dance

just because it gets endless sun and solarbeam, it doesn't make it's special attack suddenly good enough to even consider using lollerbeam

 

[shiron]

you have legends that dont mix try

ho-oh
bashful nature

sacred fire
solar beam
arial ace
sunny day

and/or

lugia
same nature

hydro pump
areo blast
raindance
thunder

oh and get rid of raquazia totally geting rid of this combo if it comes out try dragonite or salamence

 

[aipomkong]

stop posting

 

[Delta]

lol, bashful nature AND thunderdancing Lugia

 

[shiron]

well you could try another nature why not

lugia
modest nature

hydro pump
psychic
raindance
thunder

and

ho-oh
mild nature

sacred fire
solar beam
arial ace
sunny day

 

[Delta]

Thunderdancing and sunnybeaming suck

Also, Lugia isn´t meant to sweep so giving it modest nature is retarded

 

[shiron]

you can make any pokemon a sweeper if you do the right things and Thunderdancing and sunnybeaming dont suck

 

[aipomkong]

yes they do suck

www.smogon.com/advance/articles

seriously read these, they EXPLAIN the current ou metagame, which you clearly show no understanding of, these articles will help you understand what works effectivly

 

[Delta]

you can make any pokemon a sweeper if you do the right things

Oh, right. Skarmory can 6-0 a team if you give it agility/drill peck/rock slide and HP ground + and adamant nature
/sarcasm

Thunderdancing and sunnybeaming dont suck

Yes, they do

Thunderdancing is pointless when thunderbolts will always do more damage, and most sunnybeamers are just lol, and can usually use HP grass better than solarbeam

 

[shiron]

thunderbolt doesnt do much damage and when you use thunderdance thunder never misses and that would be really good against annoyers and when you use sunnybeam you can use solarbeam without a 2nd turn and hp grass it would only go up to 100power. I figured it was sarcasm before i saw the wordwhat i meant was that if you train them in the right way they can be very powerful sweepers so next time get your facts straight and actually try something before judging someones team

 

[Hey Micky!]

thunderbolt doesnt do much damage and when you use thunderdance thunder never misses and that would be really good against annoyers and when you use sunnybeam you can use solarbeam without a 2nd turn and hp grass it would only go up to 100power.

Here comes the magic of maths:

Theory A, using Thunderbolt.

Turn 1: Thunderbolt (95 Total Damage)
Turn 2: Thunderbolt (190 Total Damage)
Turn 3: Thunderbolt (285 Total Damage)
Turn 4: Thunderbolt (380 Total Damage)
Turn 5: Thunderbolt (475 Total Damage)

Theory B, using Thunder.

Turn 1: Rain Dance (0 Total Damage)
Turn 2: Thunder (120 Total Damage)
Turn 3: Thunder (240 Total Damage)
Turn 4: Thunder (360 Total Damage)
Turn 5: Thunder (480 Total Damage)

So, in the five turns that Rain Dance was up, by using Thunder AND a second moveslot for Rain Dance, you get a grand profit of FIVE damage, and this is discounting the quite clearly obvious fact that it'd never be profitable to chain 5 Thunderbolts or 4 Thunders anyway unless you were battling a vegatable who'd never heard of special walls.

Fortunately for Solarbeam, the outlook isn't quite so bleak:

Theory 1, HP Grass

Turn 1: HP Grass (70 Total Damage)
Turn 2: HP Grass (140 Total Damage)
Turn 3: HP Grass (210 Total Damage)

Theory 2, SunnyBeam

Turn 1: Sunny Day (0 Total Damage)
Turn 2: Solarbeam (120 Total Damage)
Turn 3: Solarbeam (240 Total Damage)

It only takes SunnyBeam 3 turns to overtake HP Grass in the damage charts, a much more positive outlook for the world of SunnyBeamers. So why is it that SunnyBeamers suck so much? Well, firstly, if you don't have a Pokemon with Chlorophil you really are just wasting a space using Sunny Day when msot times you have something better to put in that moveslot, and if you don't, chances are the Pokemon sucks anyway. Secondly, the magic of special walls and things resisting Grass typed moves make the magic of blowing a turn on Sunny Day pointless, since you have just infact wasted a turn with Sunny Day if you aren't going to use Solarbeam. And finally, getting your a*s owned by a TTar switch in, or in the case of the Uber Metagame, a Kyogre switch in, blows.

Qed.

I figured it was sarcasm before i saw the wordwhat i meant was that if you train them in the right way they can be very powerful sweepers so next time get your facts straight and actually try something before judging someones team

Sure, anything can sweep. That's why Raticate owns every team out there. You don't know anything about the present Metagame, don't try to act like you do. It's what gets people accused of being a gimmick. There's a NU, UU, OU and Uber Metagame for a reason, it's because some pokes are more powerful than others. This isn't the anime, Pikachu can't kil la Rhydon with Thundebrolt and a trainer's "Heart and Soul" has as much effect on the outcome of a battle as Britney Spear's affairs does on the Iran Nuclear Programme.

Now in your case, you seem to think Lugia is much more profitable to a team as a sweeper than a wall. Take a look at it's stats and compare it to the other Uber sweepers and then take a step back and ask yourself: "If he really needed a sweeper, wouldn't it be more profitable for him to invest in a Mewtwo than a Lugia". Lugia is a tank, deal with it.

 

[aipomkong]

thunderbolt doesnt do much damage and when you use thunderdance thunder never misses and that would be really good against annoyers and when you use sunnybeam you can use solarbeam without a 2nd turn and hp grass it would only go up to 100power. I figured it was sarcasm before i saw the wordwhat i meant was that if you train them in the right way they can be very powerful sweepers so next time get your facts straight and actually try something before judging someones team

hi hypocritical statement

 

[Delta]

This isn't the anime, Pikachu can't kill a Rhydon with Thundebrolt and a trainer's "Heart and Soul" has as much effect on the outcome of a battle as Britney Spear's affairs does on the Iran Nuclear Programme.

couldn´t stop lol´ing

 

[shiron]

thats not what i ment i ment that if you give it the right nature and train its ev stats the right way anything can make a fine sweeper not saying the best just good enough to be a sweeper oh and if the oppisite raindancer/sunnybeamer comes out thats what switching is for

 

[DragonDance]

LOL!

How can Shuckle be a sweeper. even with 252 att/ spd, the only thing it will kill might be a bliss with the fifth rollout.

 

[shiron]

ok lets try certain types of pokemon that dont have the worst attack and sp atk. Pokemon who are good enough to be called tanks but are capable of being trained to be sweepers like lugia

 

[Hey Micky!]

thats not what i ment i ment that if you give it the right nature and train its ev stats the right way anything can make a fine sweeper not saying the best just good enough to be a sweeper oh and if the oppisite raindancer/sunnybeamer comes out thats what switching is for

As opposed to, on the turn they switch in, doing something useful. rather than wasting a turn Sunny Daying with Ho-Oh do a TBolt, rather than rain Dance slap groudon silly with an Ice Beam.

ok lets try certain types of pokemon that dont have the worst attack and sp atk. Pokemon who are good enough to be called tanks but are capable of being trained to be sweepers like lugia

Yes, but it's wasting the Pokemon. Blissey could "sweep" but it'd be wasting what it's capable of, in the same way you do the same with Lugia. At the end of the day, if you ran up to an OU team and posted: "hai, use Flamethrower/Ice Beam/Thunderbolt/Calm Mind on Blissey" you'd be lol'd at, similar to how you are now. That Blissey could do 'something' with that set, but it doesn't make it good or worthy of using over the standard, by the same context hydro pump/psychic/raindance/thunder on Lugia could do 'something' (although of all the sweeper sets to choose for lugia that's one of the worst, Calm Mind+TBolt would own the crap out of Rain Dance+Thunder) but it doesn't make it better or more sensible than the Tank Lugia.