I think we would see a rise in Heatran usage, due to its 4x resistance to Seed flare and STAB fire attacks
the massive damage that these sweepers accumulate is often enough to alone destroy teams and it is an effective strategy if it is built around. In saying that it is seldom necessary to go to these measures to win as opposed to creating a regular team and as always it is a matter of preference.
Not if Shaymin-S has HP-Fire.Scizor checks Choiced Shaymin-s, comes on in a Seed Flare, if it switches, its gonna get hit with a Pursuit. Add that to SR damage (and if it comes back) plus a Pursuit.
Well, so far, in the UU Suspect Test vote, Crobat's 9-2 on its vote, 9 being its vote to BL, and the 2 being Abstain.
Honchkrow's 4 BL, 6 UU, and 1 Abstain. Appears it could be close for the crow to stay in UU.
Shaymin's at a landslide of 11 votes to BL.
Any comments, questions, etc?
I find Crobat quite interesting. Last time, it was unanimously voted UU. Now that majority is shifting to BL. I really don't think Crobat really got better in-between, at least not to that large of a degree, so the complete flip-flop on the opinion of its status has me quite intrigued.Well, so far, in the UU Suspect Test vote, Crobat's 9-2 on its vote, 9 being its vote to BL, and the 2 being Abstain.
Honchkrow's 4 BL, 6 UU, and 1 Abstain. Appears it could be close for the crow to stay in UU.
Shaymin's at a landslide of 11 votes to BL.
Any comments, questions, etc?
I think that might be because Celebi pretty much does what Shaymin-L does, but a bit better, and it's silly to have both on your team, and thus Celebi frequently is used enough to make it to OU, whereas Shaymin-L isn't. And since, other than the ban lists, the Smogon tiers are based on usage, BL really would be where it belongs.phop said:It is surprizing that so many have voted for Shaymin to BL, when I feel he is more than OU material for a number of reasons. It has great stats with 100 in each stat, acts as a good status asorber, has a great move-pool, etc. But on usage, I'll have to agree that's it's BL material, simply because it's very rarely seen in OU play.
.Dragonite could come in on non-HP Ice variants and KO with Fire Punch / Fire Blast
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Draggy gets Ice Beam as well