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Cheating on your partner.. is it as wrong as people make it out to be

Discussion in 'Debate Forum' started by Mandi., Aug 8, 2012.

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  1. happyhappy

    happyhappy Banned

    cheating is fine really, often being with only one sexual partner can get boring after a while, most people here do it, and really wheres the harm if they don't know? idk
     
  2. If you truly love someone, why would it get boring after a while? And if it gets boring and you really want to have sex with others than your partner, at least be honest about it and break up before having sex with others.

    And most people here do it? Where is "here"?

    Where's the harm if they don't know? Well, they might find out and be extremely hurt, and cheating is just wrong. Peope who cheat should feel extremely guilty, their consciousness should hurt... A relationship is based on trust and honesty, and cheating breaks all of that.
     
  3. BJPalmer85

    BJPalmer85 Well-Known Member

    WOW! this is one of the most.....just wow!

    Im curious as to whether or not this is spam? or trolling? with 16 post I find it hard to believe a spammer lasted that long

    B
     
  4. Ludwig

    Ludwig Well-Known Member

    I'm tired of explaining this several times. So here is the 2nd time I'm quoting myself on this in this thread:

     
  5. BJPalmer85

    BJPalmer85 Well-Known Member

    Your "explanation" is in no way a decent response to what Aqua said. It doesn't matter if love can be split into separate terms or whatever. The point that Aqua was trying to make (and correct me if I'm wrong Aqua) is that if you actually love someone, meaning you care for them, you care for their feelings, their well being, you care for them as a person then you do the loving thing, the right thing and you be open and honest with them about your feelings. If you want to sleep with other people, then tell them that. Don't be a coward and do it behind their back.

    It goes without saying that love and sexual desire do not always go together.

    B
     
  6. happyhappy

    happyhappy Banned

    Wow i didnt realise you could get away with preaching your morals that blatantly... 'cheating is just wrong' why? wheres the harm in having a casual fling with an attractive person once in a while? if you and your partner really love each other then your love should transcend such a silly thing as sex. and on the other hand if your relationship is fairly casual in itself cheating should matter even less.

    what makes you think im trolling?

    wow some people are so naive... sometimes i forget this is a kids forum
     
  7. BJPalmer85

    BJPalmer85 Well-Known Member

    Sounds like trolling because it sounds intentionally ignorant. However, it is clear that you are serious.

    The majority of the people in the US believe in monogamous relationships, so cheating would be morally wrong. And to be honest I can agree with you that there is nothing wrong with a casual fling as long as both people in the relationship are on the same terms. If both people are not ok with it then it will be seen as cheating.

    Nativity has nothing to do with it, they are my views.

    B
     
  8. Well, cheating is wrong because it interferes with trust and honesty, two extremely important things. And it's also terribly unfaithful towards your partner.

    The harm in a casual fling is that your partner would be hurt, most people aren't okay with their partners having sex with others than them. And besides, if you truly love your partner, you care about his/her feelings, and don't want him/her to go through the pain of you cheating on him/her.

    That's also why it's good if your partner can offer you both love and satisfaction for your sexual urges: that way, your partner can satisfy your sexual urges, so you won't feel the urge to cheat.

    Indeed. And most people aren't fine with that casual fling, so it's cheating.
     
  9. Ludwig

    Ludwig Well-Known Member

    I've read your text a few times and tried to formulate a reply, but I'm unable to. I'm having problems finding any relevant information to comment about. Comparing it with Aqua's text doesn't help either. His text seems to state that if you don't feel lust for someone you love, you should leave the person you love and pursue someone you feel lust for instead.
     
  10. Why does it matter what love is when we're speaking in terms of whether it's moral or not to do something? I don't care if love is nothing but a few chemical reactions in the brain, nor do I care if humans are nothing but walking chemistry on feet. That has zero bearing on whether you should cheat on someone.
     
  11. BJPalmer85

    BJPalmer85 Well-Known Member

    My point: If you are in a committed relationship. You have feelings for the person but no sexual desire than fine, stay in the relationship if you want. However, if you want to venture outside of the relationship to satisfy those desires and urges, than end the relationship. There is no fault in being honest. Sure the other person might be hurt, but at least they can never call you a liar or cheater.

    That is my opinion, based of my morals and how i was raised.

    I disagree, but to each their own

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    Last edited: Mar 27, 2013
  12. Cheating is very irresponsible to your couple :T It may be because they get bored or tired of their couple or love them both and can't make a decision but just making an irresponsible action as to cheat on your partner will not result in these actions being solved but in fact will make then worse! D; You can't keep more than one.
     
  13. No. I think that when loving someone but not feeling lust, that you should resist the sexual urge and stick with the one you love, without cheating.

    However, if you really, really can't resist the urge to have sex with someone you feel lust for, honestly telling your partner and breaking up is at least better than cheating.
     
  14. Ludwig

    Ludwig Well-Known Member

    I don't see why you need to break up after telling that.
     
  15. Why you'd break up:
    - because you're not being faithful towards your partner and because you clearly think that your partner can't satisfy you.
    - because your partner wouldn't want to be with you anymore anyways if you're going to have sex with others.
     
  16. Psychic

    Psychic Really and truly

    "Most people shoplift, so that clearly makes it acceptable. Where's the harm in it?" This is not a valid argument. Try again.

    Also, if you find that sex with one person gets boring, talk to your partner about turning your relationship into an open one so your needs can get met, or break up with them. Grow a pair and be honest with your partner about your desires and needs instead of whining about your relationship.


    Do you understand how monogamous relationships work? When you agree to enter into a monogamous relationship, you consent to be monogamous, and your partner consents to behave the same. By seeing another person, you not only break your partner's trust, but also the verbal contract saying "I will be in a monogamous relationship with you." Be honest - it's not about "transcending such a silly thing as sex" - it's about breaking an agreeing to be monogamous and taking advantage of your partner's trust in you. If you don't agree to be monogamous with this person and decide that seeing other people is acceptable, then seeing other people is perfectly acceptable and not considered to be cheating. That is what we call "transcending such a silly thing as sex" - going behind your partner's back is called being a coward.

    Our morality is based on a simple guiding principle: do as others as you would have done to you. I know, it sounds so complicated and new age-y! Yet it's so simple that it's is a founding principal of our societal laws.

    "Oh look, someone made a good point I can't refute and believes in being a decent human being. I'd better belittle them and imply that they're a child." If that's how you're going to respond, you will not be welcome in the Debate forum.


    I agree with Ludwig - if you care about your relationship, instead of going "you don't satisfy me - I'm breaking up with you" it's far more constructive to go "hey, I care about our relationship but I don't currently feel 100% satisfied. Can we talk about it and see if we can reach a solution?" Obviously if you don't give a crap about the relationship it's another story, but communication is essential to make a relationship work, and it can certainly help save a relationship.


    ~Psychic
     
  17. Of course I don't think people should immediately break up when one person doesn't satisfy the other person. I just meant that about relationships that can't be saved anymore. Of course trying to fix the problems is the best solution, all I said is that breaking up honestly is better than cheating... That's why I said "if you really, really can't resist the urge to have sex with someone you feel lust for": this is about instances in which one person really can't resist the urge, no matter what.

    This is what Ludwig said about a post of mine:
    This was my reply, clearly implying that someone should NOT dump his/her partner and have sex with someone else when feeling attracted to someone else.
    Sorry for not being clear here.
     
  18. Darth Revan

    Darth Revan Coming Out!

    I've really just stopped by the forums to check on new things and noticed this.

    In my opinion, it really depends on what type of relationship you are in. I will list all of the normal relationships and why or why not it is okay to "Cheat"

    Marriage:
    NEVER, It is NOT okay to cheat on your spouse. You have made a commitment to marriage and MUST stick with it. Which is why I'm personally against divorce, even though it is a norm now.

    Engaged:
    NO, unless you want to completely waste a 500 dollar ring.

    Dating:

    Actually this depends on your definition of "Dating" Usually the definition of dating is "activity of going on dates: the activity of going out regularly with somebody as a social or romantic partner"
    Really unless you are engaged, it doesn't matter who you are dating. Would you want to marry someone who is not at least 85% (made up number) comparable with you? Which is why you date other people, to make sure you are going to marry the right Girl/Guy/It.

    So overall, if you are "Cheating" on your date. And if your girlfriend/boyfriend thinks it is the worst thing since disembowelment, you need a better partner.

    You really don't have to take my opinion, just that is my two cents.
     
  19. BJPalmer85

    BJPalmer85 Well-Known Member

    $500! LOL!

    I feel that if you want an open relationship than you need to discuss that with your partner and go from there. You may think it is not cheating, your partner may not, that is where the problem begins.

    B
     
  20. GhostAnime

    GhostAnime Searching for her...

    Well, simply because someone is still "dating" someone and isn't engaged doesn't mean cheating is still okay.

    You are correct that it does depend on the agreement between two partners (this goes for any stage.. whether marriage or engagement) but.. if they're in a committed relationship with someone (ie still less than engagement), it's usually assumed to be monogamous anyway.
     
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