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kingferret53

A duel well fought..
I've gotten sick and tired of people putting down my pokemon like my persians (which can hold thier own agaist ANY pokemon ten lvs. higher) and my quiet swellow (which can even beat rock pokemon alot higher in lv. that it), so this time instead of randomly getting pokemon and training them to killing machines I carefully planned out teams. Enjoy.

Firered:

(shiny) male Charmander
gentle blaze

flamethrower
blastburn
dragonclaw
aerialace
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
nidoqueen
hastly poisonpoint

cut
bite
shadowball
earthquake
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
female poliwrath
mild water absorb

surf
brickbreak
psychic
double-edge
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
female jolteon
naive volt absorb

bite
thunderbolt
shockwave
attract
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
male fearow
calm keeneye

fly
aerial ace
thief
secret power
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
male snorlax
gentle immunity

strength
icebeam
seismic toss
headbutt

I won't change charizard's or Fearow's natures but will moves. For you guys saying "gentle charmanders suck" as a charizard he won't have a ground weakness so hah!

my brother's leafgreen:

male venusaur
jolly overgrow

frenzy plant
cut
razorleaf
earthquake
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
female raichu
naughty stactic

thunderbolt
shockwave
thief
slam
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
male pidgeot
adament keeneye

fly
wingattack or aerial ace
steelwing
secret power
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
female persian
impish limber

bite
slash
shadowball attract
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
male vaporeon
hasty water absorb

bite
surf
waterpulse
double-edge
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
female ninetails
serious flashfire

flamethrower
bodyslam
fireblast (ideas for other move)
iron tail

Please remember he can't breed yet, he just started his game over, and he already has his bulbasaur and pika so if you don't like the natures suck it up.

Alt. team #1

female rapidash w/ leftovers or charcoal
docile flashfire

hypnosis
attract
flamethrower
bounce
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
female furret w/ king's rock
rash keeneye

surf
assist
strength
shadowball
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
metagross w/ quickclaw
timid clearbody

meteormash
earthquake
psychic
brickbreak
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
male laturn w/ brightpowder
modest volt absorb

surf
hydropump
thunderbolt
shockwave
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
female murkrow
careful isomnia

fly
aerial ace
thief
steelwing
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
male sceptile w/ scope lens or miricale seed
modest overgrow

crunch
leafblade
strength
rocktomb

This team isn't made quiet yet bet might be soon...
 
kingferret53 said:
I've gotten sick and tired of people putting down my pokemon like my persians (which can hold thier own agaist ANY pokemon ten lvs. higher) and my quiet swellow (which can even beat rock pokemon alot higher in lv. that it), so this time instead of randomly getting pokemon and training them to killing machines I carefully planned out teams. Enjoy.

Firered:

(shiny) male Charmander
gentle blaze

flamethrower
blastburn
dragonclaw
aerialace
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
nidoqueen
hastly poisonpoint

cut
bite
shadowball
earthquake
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
female poliwrath
mild water absorb

surf
brickbreak
psychic
double-edge
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
female jolteon
naive volt absorb

bite
thunderbolt
shockwave
attract
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
male fearow
calm keeneye

fly
aerial ace
thief
secret power
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
male snorlax
gentle immunity

strength
icebeam
seismic toss
headbutt

I won't change charizard's or Fearow's natures but will moves. For you guys saying "gentle charmanders suck" as a charizard he won't have a ground weakness so hah!

my brother's leafgreen:

male venusaur
jolly overgrow

frenzy plant
cut
razorleaf
earthquake
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
female raichu
naughty stactic

thunderbolt
shockwave
thief
slam
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
male pidgeot
adament keeneye

fly
wingattack or aerial ace
steelwing
secret power
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
female persian
impish limber

bite
slash
shadowball attract
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
male vaporeon
hasty water absorb

bite
surf
waterpulse
double-edge
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
female ninetails
serious flashfire

flamethrower
bodyslam
fireblast (ideas for other move)
iron tail

Please remember he can't breed yet, he just started his game over, and he already has his bulbasaur and pika so if you don't like the natures suck it up.

Alt. team #1

female rapidash w/ leftovers or charcoal
docile flashfire

hypnosis
attract
flamethrower
bounce
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
female furret w/ king's rock
rash keeneye

surf
assist
strength
shadowball
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
metagross w/ quickclaw
timid clearbody

meteormash
earthquake
psychic
brickbreak
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
male laturn w/ brightpowder
modest volt absorb

surf
hydropump
thunderbolt
shockwave
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
female murkrow
careful isomnia

fly
aerial ace
thief
steelwing
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
male sceptile w/ scope lens or miricale seed
modest overgrow

crunch
leafblade
strength
rocktomb

This team isn't made quiet yet bet might be soon...
Why did you have 2 the same treads?
 

ShinyFufu

Arriving glacially.
lol, GENTLE CHARMANDER SUCKS!!!111!!!

Sorry, I had to do that. But yeah, even if it is shiny, it is not good. It is still weak against water type moves, and now it is really bad against rock types. I don't feel like rating the whole team, just Zard.

Zard@Petaya Berry/Lefties
Timid
252 Speed, 252 SAtk, 6 HP
Flamethrower
Dragon Claw
Substitute/Sunny Day
Fly/Sunny Day
Luckily, I have a Timid Shiny Charizard.
 

kingferret53

A duel well fought..
~Dark_EZRA~ said:
Why did you have 2 the same treads?

My grandma's computer messed up.
 

kingferret53

A duel well fought..
UnforgivingSuicide said:
Lol @ carefully Planned out.

Sceptile-W/e
Timid
LEaf Blade
SUb
LEEch SEEd
THunder PUnch



What do you mean "Lol @ carefully Planned out". I do admit some the natures suck but I've just finally gotten off my lazy butt and read what each one does. (I unlike you guys have only idiots and the pathetic in game people to battle.) And how the heck do you get a sceptile w/ thunderpunch?

.p.s.- Lets see you 100% correctly when you have your 2 little sisters and 2 little brothers yelling in your ears and are also trying to plan out about 26-28 different teams at once. Well could you do it?
 
rules said:
And people, some of you need to learn to accept critisism and help. Some of you dont listen to ANYTHING. Be open minded please.

The majority of in-game pokemon can hold their own against a game rival pokemon thats over 10 levels higher btw.

The "lol @ carefully planned out" refers to how some of your pokemon have 2 moves of the same type (ex. water pulse and surf). And the fact Charizard has Blast Burn, which sucks balls.

Sceptile gets Thunder Punch from the Emerald move tutor.
 

Pika Egg

Veteran newbie ^_^
And "Lol @ Carefully Planned out" might also refer to the fact that you used moves like Slam and Cut for some odd reason....and why exactly are you tryring to plan out that many different teams?? IMO take it one at a time and the siblings yelling in your ears shouldn't bother you too much ^_^

Some general suggestions:
T-bolt >> Shockwave
Surf = Hydro Pump >> Water Pulse
Return > Slash, Secret Power, Slam, Cut, Strength, etc
Aerial Ace > Wing Attack > Fly

Thunder Wave over Shock Wave for your Electrics, maybe use the Curselax set for your Snorlax, and perhaps for Vaporeon use
-Ice Beam/Wish/Toxic
-Surf
-Substitute
-Baton Pass

As for breeding on your brother's game...he could trade the pokemon over to yours and breed couldn't he?
 
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Frost Nova

The predator awaits.
I think the presence of two same type moves on a single pogey and having Blast Burn on Charmander speaks for itself about your so-called 'Carefully planned out' thing.

For you guys saying "gentle charmanders suck" as a charizard he won't have a ground weakness so hah!

Anything that has RS (Rock Slide) says hi, and it's adios for your precious Charizard.

Metagross really doesn't like Timid Nature: Adamant nature all the way for it please (Brave for Mixgross).

~Frost
 

kingferret53

A duel well fought..
Pika Egg said:
And "Lol @ Carefully Planned out" might also refer to the fact that you used moves like Slam and Cut for some odd reason....and why exactly are you tryring to plan out that many different teams?? IMO take it one at a time and the siblings yelling in your ears shouldn't bother you too much ^_^

Some general suggestions:
T-bolt >> Shockwave
Surf = Hydro Pump >> Water Pulse
Return > Slash, Secret Power, Slam, Cut, Strength, etc
Aerial Ace > Wing Attack > Fly

Thunder Wave over Shock Wave for your Electrics, maybe use the Curselax set for your Snorlax, and perhaps for Vaporeon use
-Ice Beam/Wish/Toxic
-Surf
-Substitute
-Baton Pass

As for breeding on your brother's game...he could trade the pokemon over to yours and breed couldn't he?

I use moves like slam when I can't find a different move or don't like the other moves such as doubleteam and such, and cut is for the in-game stuff like cutting trees. He could trade his pokemon over to mine and breed but you can't trade eggs over to firered, leafgreen, or emerald. I've tried. Plus he has a phobia of using pokemon w/o his id #(wierd I know).
 

Pika Egg

Veteran newbie ^_^
kingferret53 said:
I use moves like slam when I can't find a different move or don't like the other moves such as doubleteam and such, and cut is for the in-game stuff like cutting trees.
Well...I find it really hard to believe that Slam is ever the best move for any pokemon...even Strength > Slam, and Return >> Slam, if you want Normal attacks.

As for Cut... think about how often you use it in game, especially after...oh....Rock Tunnel... IMO, Cut is one of those HM's that's better relegated to an HM slave (As opposed to Surf and Fly).

As for your brother...meh...his loss I guess...
 

firewater

Well-Known Member
(shiny) male Charmander
lonely blaze

flamethrower
EQ
dragonclaw
aerial ace
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
nidoqueen
quiet/brave poisonpoint

ice beam
shadowball/sludge bomb
t-bolt
earthquake
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
female poliwrath
lonely water absorb

surf
brickbreak
bulk up
EQ
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
female jolteon
timid volt absorb

t-wave
thunderbolt
baton pass
hp ice/grass/sub/agility
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
male fearow
admantkeeneye

flyacceptable since it is ingame
steel wing
return
drill peck
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
male snorlax
careful immunity

return/body slam
rest
shadow ball/EQ
curse

I won't change charizard's or Fearow's natures but will moves. For you guys saying "gentle charmanders suck" as a charizard he won't have a ground weakness so hah!
well with that your fearow is now useless, even if you wanted to improve its defense, do not get rid of its best stat for it, and it needs either jolly/admant, also this team is very bad
my brother's leafgreen:

male venusaur
jolly lol, needs more bold/+def/sp.def-spdovergrow

sludge bomb/hp fire/ice
leech seed
razorleaf
sleep powder
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
female raichu
naughty stactic

thunderbolt
thunderwave
FP
sub
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
male pidgeot
adamentthis makes it better than your whole team keeneye

flyacceptable only in game
wingattack/aerial ace
steelwing
return/double edge
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
female persian
admant/jolly limber

iron tail
return
shadowball
hypnosis
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
male vaporeon
bold/calmwater absorb

ice beam
surf
baton pass
acid armor/wish
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
female ninetails
timid flashfire

flamethrower
WOW/confuse ray
hp special
safeguard

Please remember he can't breed yet, he just started his game over, and he already has his bulbasaur and pika so if you don't like the natures suck it up.
well your brother is screwed except for pidgeot
Alt. team #1

female rapidash w/ leftovers
timid flashfire

hypnosis
sunny day
flamethrower
solar beam--------------------------------------------------------------------------
female furret w/ king's rock
admant/jollykeeneye

sub
FP
return
shadowball
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
metagross w/ quickclaw
brave clearbody

meteormash
earthquake
psychic
agility/t-punch
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
male laturn w/ brightpowder
modest volt absorb
yay, brightpwder sucks though
surf
ice beam
thunderbolt
t-wave/toxic/confuse ray/attract/rest/sub-better than most i've seen here
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
female murkrow
admant/jolly isomnia

confuse ray/hp ground/bug
return
drill peck
steelwing
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
male sceptile w/ scope lens
modest overgrow
yay, their getting better
crunch
leafblade
dragon claw
t-bolt.....NOOOOOOO

well even with distractions those teams suck really bad
 

Comray001

IMMA FIRIN MEH LAZOR
Shining Mew said:
And the fact Charizard has Blast Burn, which sucks balls.

Cant stop laughing. Seriously though dont give your pokemon 2 moves of the same type. Dont EVER give ANY pokemon an HM but Surf unless it is an HM Slave
 
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