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Cilan Takes Flight (728)

Discussion in 'Pokémon Black & White - Rival Destinies' started by Serebii, Feb 23, 2012.

  1. Zoruagible

    Zoruagible Lover of underrated characters

    I was disappointed on how Skyla was treated in this episode. I wish Cilan defeated her. I loved her voice though.
    I found it hilarious when Iris said “And now it's boring lecture time.”
  2. I don't have anything else to say about this episode except that, I do have to admit, Skyla s hot. :)
  3. JudySpell

    JudySpell Banned

    Cilan was acting superior and bossy here with Skyla which I didn't like at all. I didn't think she was doing anything bad with her Gym. 6/10
  4. Pikachu979

    Pikachu979 Sinnoh Champion

    It was kind of sad that cilan was trying to teach her a lesson and ended up losing.
  5. Mrs. Oreo

    Mrs. Oreo Banned

    Finally Ash's group arrived at Mistralton city and I liked seeing Skyla fly her plane. Her method of choosing gym winners seemed kind of unfair, so I understood why Cilan got upset, plus I liked that he battled her. :]
  6. Leonhart

    Leonhart Imagineer

    Now that Satoshi and his friends were in Fukiyose City, I expected Satoshi to battle Fuuro right away, but that didn't happen since she was neglecting her Gym Leader duties. I can't fault Dent for getting upset with Fuuro's behavior, and I'm glad that he battled her. It's just too bad that he ended up losing.
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  7. Wednesdayz

    Wednesdayz Banned

    It was great to see the male Unfezant for the 1st time. Cilan was incredibly angry. His firey eyes, volcanic background when he blew his top and couldn't take it anymore, and his hilarious angry walk with arms stiffly down and walking stiffly. Skyla's voice was really high pitched and hurt my ears. :p
  8. ZilverLox

    ZilverLox Banned

    The main thing that stood out here to me is how they seemed to not actually point out the main reason why air battles didn't make sense: the otherwise drilled into us idea that type advantage isn't everything, yet there was next to no mention of it. Ash just calling the idea boring isn't a good argument against it, from someone who has constantly beaten the odds on type match ups, you'd think he would actually say something about that.
  9. Alloutℯ

    Alloutℯ Banned

    Cilan's voice actor did a great job in here (especially loved Jason Griffith's voice delivery during Cilan's moment of shock after he lost). I just love Cilan's raging side.
  10. Leonhart

    Leonhart Imagineer

    Given Fuuro's unprofessional manner of handling her Gym Leader duties, you have to wonder why Joi or some other official Gym inspector didn't close down the Fukiyose Gym or fire Fuuro. The lack of formal intervention seemed odd.
  11. I thought that this was a good episode. It feels like Ash arrived in Mistralton City a bit too soon, but the pacing for the BW series goes way too fast anyway. Skyla's victory felt a little cheap since Aqua Jet doesn't cure status problems in the games, but they obviously couldn't have Skyla lose to Cilan before she battles Ash, since that would make her seem mediocre.
  12. Leonhart

    Leonhart Imagineer

    This is my criticism as well since he had just left Hodomoe City a few episodes prior to this one, and he suddenly showed up here in Fukiyose City and we barely even saw the city's main attractions.
  13. Mr.Munchlax

    Mr.Munchlax Pokeball Rank Trainer

    Looking back, this is still one of my favorite Black and White episodes. While I don’t like how Skyla was handled compared to the games, it does set her up as a good antagonist for Ash. Plus Skyla’s air battles seem more relatable now than when this episode aired since people are constantly trying to streamline and speed up everything nowadays. If Pokémon did exist, I can easily see a news report in 2019 about a gym leader trying to do something like this (though it would seem just as stupid & ridiculous). Not to mention her reasonings behind the wins and losses can be compared to competitive battle tiers or how players try to only focus on logic and statistics when planning for battles and ignore factors like luck, chance, or experience.

    Additionally, it gives Cilan much needed character development. I always liked his overly passionate and flamboyant quirks, but they work even better in this episode since they take his role as a gym leader seriously and use it to show his frustration with Skyla’s air battles. It was completely in character for Cilan & it was nice to see someone other than Ash battle a gym leader without feeling shoe-horned.
    Last edited: Jan 21, 2020
  14. Leonhart

    Leonhart Imagineer

    In retrospect, I'm not sure that Dent really developed here. He showed us that he still felt passionately about being a Gym Leader, but his way of pushing his ideals when it came to giving Fuuro the third degree about what she was doing wrong seemed like character regression in a way, because it made Dent seem like a bully.
  15. Scorbunnie

    Scorbunnie Well-Known Member

    I liked how Cilan gave Skyla a lecture on being a good gym leader because that girl was pure lazy with not wanting to accept challenges just so she could fly her plane. I wish Cilan had fought her and given Ash the Jet badge after wards.

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