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Community POTW #133

Discussion in 'POTW Collaboration' started by Serebii, Jul 14, 2013.

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  1. Serebii

    Serebii And, as if by magic, the webmaster appeared... Staff Member Admin

  2. fitzy909

    fitzy909 Just another guy

    here is a set i have used before:

    - Substitute
    - Dragon Dance
    - Outrage
    - Waterfall
    Item: lum berry/Leftovers
    Ability: Swift swim/ Sniper
    Nature/EVs: Adamant | 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Speed

    (also, oh yeah first)
     
  3. philzone

    philzone Ready for trumpets

    Oh damn, please make sure this gets a decent doubles/triples section, since you ruined amoonguss': not mentioning rage powder and anti trick rooming...

    In VGC, literally every rain team runs this guy, and it ain't hard to see why. Great STABs, decent bulk, and politoed getting icy wind and helping hand is great. Sub lets it prevent the ever annoying thunder wave. So sets:

    Kingdra@dragon gem/life orb
    Modest
    252 spatt, 252 spd, 4hp
    Swift swim
    Muddy water
    Draco meteor
    Substitute/ice beam
    Protect

    Protect is mandatory in vgc, muddy water is great due to the acc drop it can give. Draco meteor... no more dragons. Sub i said before, where as ice beam can hurt stuff more, and have something that gives ferrothorn more damage. LO for constant damage, but gem for power.

    Please give a good douldes section.
     
  4. Monster Guy

    Monster Guy Fairy Tale Man

    Item: Life Orb/Lum Berry/Leftovers
    Nature: Adamant
    Trait: Swift Swim
    252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
    ~ Dragon Dance
    ~ Outrage
    ~ Waterfall
    ~ Rain Dance

    Outrage and Waterfall are the only viable things in Kingdra's PHYSICAL movepool. This set puts them to use. Dragon Dance boosts Attack and Speed, Rain Dance boosts Speed even further thanks to Swift Swim. From there just spam STAB moves.
     
  5. Spinner

    Spinner Pokemon Breeder

    This is the Decimating Kingdra I used recently in the Rotation Battles- it was cutting its way through Legendaries like butter, esp other sweepers. It works great in Singles or Doubles too.

    Kingdra
    Hasty Swift Swim 252 Sp Att, 252 Speed, 4 Attack, Dragon Gem

    Draco Meteor
    Scald
    Outrage
    Hidden Power (your choice of coverage)

    Basically, after Rain is set up, let this guy go to town! Draco Meteor and Swift Swim pretty much destroys anything but something with Multiscale (Lugia) or Focus Sash, and then you use Outrage or switch out. Scald is coverage on Steel, and can leave a nice burn, good on defensive types setting up. I have hidden power, but don't really remember using it. The outrage trick after Draco Meteor surprised not a few people, like the one Lati Calm Minding quietly...
    One of my Favorite Pokemon! And it's Blue! (I love blue pokemon)
     
  6. EonDragonFTW

    EonDragonFTW Well-Known Member

    OOOH I LOVE KINGDRA!!! I use it to decimate everything in Doubles!
    Since there is no Drizzle + Swift Swim ban
    Here's a set from VGC/Doubles
    Kingdra @ Life Orb/Water Gem
    Modest Nature
    Ability: Swift Swim
    EVs: 252 Sp. Atk 252 Speed
    Moves:
    Draco Meteor/Protect
    Hydro Pump
    Ice Beam
    Dragon Pulse

    Kingdra can just pummel everything in its path with its high power and speed thanks to Swift Swim (Rain over everything!). Dragon Pulse or Meteor can get rid of the dragons, and its partner, Politoed, can fire off rain boosted surfs without hurting Kingdra too much thanks to its x4 resistance or Protect
     
    Last edited: Jul 15, 2013
  7. Serebii

    Serebii And, as if by magic, the webmaster appeared... Staff Member Admin

    Even though Smogon has "banned" Swift Swim/Drizzle, don't feel afraid of making a note about it in your sets :)
     
  8. Sparkbeat

    Sparkbeat FLASH! AAAHHHAAA!

    Bazooka (Kingdra) (F) @ Choice Specs
    Trait: Swift Swim
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
    Modest Nature
    IVs: 0 Atk
    - Hydro Pump
    - Ice Beam
    - Draco Meteor
    - Surf

    Terrible pun and sexy set Miror use this bby bc ily :$ (if anyone doesn't get it you're not using the sniper ability instead of blowing things up with a specs boosted hydro pump that and 2HKO some P2's so its a Bazooka because sniper's are for wusses)
     
  9. _Calm|Mind_

    _Calm|Mind_ S.H.I.E.L.D

    Where's the Lucario guy who always posts bad sets and posts them first? Anyway...

    Ability: Sniper
    Item: Leftovers
    Moves: Dive, Toxic, Dragon Pulse, Dragon Dance
     
  10. Ghosts of the Forums

    Ghosts of the Forums Who Ya Gonna Call?

    You people probably hurt his feelings last time.

    Horsea @Choice Scarf
    Timid
    236sp.atk 236spe
    -Hydro Pump
    -Hidden Power Fire
    -Ice Beam
    -Rain Dance

    For little cup.
     
  11. Buuz

    Buuz Smash Trainer

    Don't mind if i do. Smogon isn't sacred and we are in NO way required to play by their rules. So, yeah.

    Kingdra @ Leftovers
    Nature: Modest
    Ability: Swift Swim
    - Draco Meteor
    - Scald
    - Ice Beam
    - Signal Beam

    I might actually add this set to my rain team with Drizzle Politoed later on. Kingdra really has only one weakness, and Leftovers can be used for healing. Scald gets STAB and a boost from rain and occasionally burns the opponent. Ice Beam (especially against fellow dragons)/Signal Beam are for coverage and Draco Meteor for a powerful STAB move though you are pretty much forced to switch out Kingdra afterwards.
     
    Last edited: Jul 14, 2013
  12. Sparkbeat

    Sparkbeat FLASH! AAAHHHAAA!

    Oh the irony
    LO or Eviolite is much better for this set, but yeah very fun set to use :) I'd also put it Hp Fire/Grass because some people want to hit Chinchou and other Water types.
    Smogon isn't sacred, no, but they typically are correct when they ban things that are unhealthy for the metagame. I know this isn't the place to discuss this, but I just thought I'd point that out. Also, Kingdra does not get access to Calm Mind, so this is an illegal set. #SerebiiTiersGen6
     
  13. Buuz

    Buuz Smash Trainer

    My bad, i didn't know. I'll edit my last post then. Thanks for pointing out brother.
     
  14. ger9119

    ger9119 Well-Known Member

    Kingdra (M) @ Lum Berry
    Trait: Swift Swim
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Naughty Nature (+Atk, -SDef)
    - Dragon Dance
    - Waterfall
    - Outrage
    - Draco Meteor

    This is my favorite Kingdra set, really good setting up 1 or 2 DDs then recovering the confusion from outrage and it gets good coverage with Waterfall. Draco Meteor hits hard too

    Seadra
    Sniper
    Modest/Timid
    Choice Specs or Evo
    4 HP/252 SPA / 252 SPE
    Hyrdro Pump/Ice Beam/ Dragon Pulse/ Hidden Power Fire

    Seadra is a very underated pokemon in the lower tier it has decent bulk which is increased with evoilite and great special attack and coverage with choice specs
     
  15. So has Pokemon Online and every other major tiering site.
     
  16. Rezzuréct

    Rezzuréct Allez Les Bleus!

    Well Kingdra...

    Kingdra @ Choice Specs
    Trait: Swift Swim
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature
    - Hydro Pump
    - Draco Meteor
    - Ice Beam
    - Hidden Power [Electric / Grass]

    Kingdra is capable to use a Specs. Hydro Pump to hit everything that doesn't resist it. Draco Meteor also hit everything. Ice Beam and Hidden Power are for coverage.

    Kingdra @ Lum Berry
    Trait: Swift Swim
    EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature
    - Substitute
    - Dragon Dance
    - Outrage
    - Waterfall

    After it gets a couple DDs, this thing will turn into a beast. Subs to block statuses and leech seeds. DD boosting Kindgra's attack and speed to sky high level. Outrage and Waterfall are physical STAB moves for Kingdra.
     
  17. Silvershark

    Silvershark HAWLUCHA!!!

    I know they glance through the doubles/triples sets, since I'm pretty sure my post for Houndoom's uses in doubles had some influence on it's double's/triples entry. However, given the watered down nature of that section of the PoTW's, and Amoongus's nearly non-existent double's entry, I think a passing glance is the best we can hope for. I wouldn't hold my breathe for a good double's section.

    Anyways, don't forget to mention Lum berry since it stops that initial Thunderwave before the sub's set up, thus is fairly common on the sub set.
     
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    Kingdra
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    Kingdra @ Choice Specs
    Modest / Timid - Swift Swim / Sniper
    252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
    ~ Draco Meteor
    ~ Hydro Pump / Surf
    ~ Dragon Pulse
    ~ Hidden Power Electric / Surf
     
  19. EonDragonFTW

    EonDragonFTW Well-Known Member

    Kingdra's Partners: Politoed if you're not playing by Smogon's rules (b/c of the all-important eternal rain), or something that can set up Rain Dance well, such as a Bronzong with a Damp Rock. Bronzong resists Kingdra's only weakness (and is rather bulky), and Kingdra quad resists Fire, which is further weakened by rain. Other partners would include Skarmory to set up hazards, as you'll be threatening them out with Kingdra's blazing speed and the extra hazard damage would be nice, or Specially Defensive Heatran to tank all Draco Meteors that aren't your own. Pretty much a Steel Type to take a Dragon move for Kingdra

    Kingdra's counters: SHUT DOWN THE RAIN!!! That is imperative, as that would really weaken Kingdra's sweeping ability (but Kingdra can function fine w/o rain). Stuff like Abomasnow (who brings in Hail and resists Water), or a bulky subseed Ludicolo @ Rain Dish w/ Lefties (who quad resists Water and can subseed/Toxic stall Kingdra to death)

    Set names: King'd Ya!
    How to train your Kingdragon
    Sweeping is King
    ...can't think of anything else
     
  20. swirlytoed

    swirlytoed New Member

    Check Mate (Kingdra)
    Stats: 252 Attack/252 Speed/4 Hp
    Moves: Substitute, Waterfall, Outrage, and Dragon Dance
    Nature: Jolly
    Item: Leftovers, Life Orb, or Lum Berry
    Ability: Swift Swim or Snipper

    Kingdra having two powerful attacks in waterfall and outrage gives great coverage in UU, OU, and even in Ubers. Having substitute is great because many walls like rhyperior, claydol and gligar need to switch out fearing waterfall and other attacks. This gives you a great opportunity to sub up and with the sub you can get a free dragon dance and then proceed to outrage or waterfall the rest of the opponent team. As for items you should choose between two items in life orb which gave extra power in its hits, or leftovers is nice because after subbing up you can get instant recovery, and lastly the Lum Berry is useful becuase after outrage it immediately heals its confusion or even if status is inflicted like toxic or thunder wave it can continue to hit hard. Kingdra ability swift swim can be a blessing and a curse it is great in higher tiers like Ubers because it is not banned so it out speeds a lot of uber pokemon, the curse however, is that a drizzle pokemon like politoed is banned in OU and UU. But in my opinion bringing Swift Swim in OU nice because their is a lot weather especially rain so not having to worry about getting in trouble for swift swim drizzle is nice. In UU I would recommend the sniper ability beacuase politoed and other drizzle pokemon are banned so their is less likely chance or having weather a factor in the UU tier.

    Counters: Empoleon is a great counter because it resist both of kingdra attacks in waterfall and outrage and can retaliate by phasing it out with roar of ice beam if it is an offensive set. Another great counter is ferroseed or ferrothorn deepening on if it is UU or OU due to ferroseed being grass and steel it resist both waterfall and outrage and can thunder wave it to slow it down or either leach seed to get continuous damage.

    Other options for Kingdra can be Rain dance instead of substitute with the addition of the damp rock witch lengthens the amount of turns during the rain is up, but not as good becuase the effects of life orb, leftovers, and lum berry are much more useful than having to deal with a damp rock as your item.
     
    Last edited: Jul 16, 2013
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