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Community POTW #133

Discussion in 'POTW Collaboration' started by Serebii, Jun 2, 2019.

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  1. Serebii

    Serebii And, as if by magic, the webmaster appeared... Staff Member Admin

  2. Mestorn

    Mestorn Wandering Battler

    Raticate, the final form of Rattata who is for many people the first wild Pokémon that they encountered. However, Raticate is the epitome of a common 'mon. You will see it everywhere in the main game, where it will be a minor annoyance, while in competitive Raticate is nowhere to be seen, being outclassed by so many normal types. Even if Raticate isn't in the top percentage of Pokémon, it can pack a surprising amount of power.

    Blazing Mouse Sword
    Raticate
    Ability: Guts
    Item: Flame Orb
    -Swords Dance
    -Facade
    -Crunch/Sucker Punch
    -Stomping Tantrum
    Nature: Jolly (+SPE,- SATK)
    EVs: 4 HP/252 ATK/252 SPE

    Raticate can pack a surprising amount of power. After coming in and getting both a Swords Dance and Guts Boost, Raticate is ready to show the world what it can do.

    +2 252 Atk Guts Raticate Stomping Tantrum vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Aggron: 428-504 (152.3 - 179.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
    +2 252 Atk Guts Raticate Facade (140 BP) vs. 252 HP / 120+ Def Claydol: 388-457 (119.7 - 141%) -- guaranteed OHKO
    +2 252 Atk Guts Raticate Facade (140 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Guzzlord: 828-975 (127.3 - 150%) -- guaranteed OHKO
    +2 252 Atk Guts Raticate Facade (140 BP) vs. 252 HP / 128 Def Mudsdale: 439-517 (108.6 - 127.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
    +1 252 Atk Guts Raticate Facade (140 BP) vs. 252 HP / 112+ Def Landorus-Therian: 330-388 (86.3 - 101.5%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO

    +2 252 Atk Guts Raticate Stomping Tantrum vs. 252 HP / 180+ Def Regirock: 160-190 (43.9 - 52.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
    +2 252 Atk Guts Raticate Stomping Tantrum vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Sandslash-Alola: 306-360 (86.4 - 101.6%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO
    +2 252 Atk Guts Raticate Crunch vs. 248 HP / 8 Def Spiritomb: 177-209 (58.4 - 68.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
    +2 252 Atk Guts Raticate Stomping Tantrum vs. 248 HP / 236+ Def Omastar: 224-264 (65.3 - 76.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

    As the numbers show, it doesn't matter how bulky you are, if you come into Raticate after it has setup, and are not packing a Resist/Immnity to it's normal STAB, it will eat you alive or get every close. Bulky Pokémon with resistances or immunities have an easier time, forcing Raticate to use one of its coverage moves. That is not a free pass however, as even they need defensive investment to survive (or be Regirock).

    However all this power comes at a price. Raticate is put on a strict timer with Flame Orb, with its vulnerability to passive damage driving down the timer even faster. Also Raticate NEEDs to nab the OHKO, as everything on the above list except Claydol and Alolan Sandslash can easily nab a OHKO on the burning mouse. Raticate only clocks in at a base 97 SPE, which while surprisingly good, means that Raticate is prone to being revenge killed by anything with Priority or a Choice Scarf. Sucker Punch can alleviate some of these pains, but requires good prediction as a misclick just drives down the burn timer.

    Furthermore, Raticate is very frail, which makes finding opportunities to setup difficult to find as Raticate rarely scares anything out before setting up.
     
    Last edited: Jun 2, 2019
  3. KillerDraco

    KillerDraco The Enforcer Staff Member Super Mod

    It's worth noting that if you're running Adamant over Jolly, then Raticate's speed is only equivalent to that of a speed natured base 84. In other words, it's slower than standard Heracross. You generally want to go Jolly with Raticate since speed is its main advantage over Ursaring, who runs a similar set but with more power and bulk.
     
  4. shoz999

    shoz999 The Legend of Mudkip

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    Mato's design of Raticate, just so freaking adorable.
    Raticate, a well-known yet underused Pokemon in the series if you think about it. The most fame it literally got from the games was a Youngster Joey memeing about his special Rattata and Blue Oak giving up on Raticate after finding it too weak to be on his Pokemon team, some assuming that he released it back into the wild. However in Pokemon Adventures, everything changed as Raticate is not only one of the major team members of Yellow's party, it was her very first Pokemon she caught as a Rattata thanks to a fateful encounter to Red. Since then I struggle to wonder how did the first Pokemon Adventures Artist, Mato, made Raticate look so freaking cute. Have you seen Ken Sugimori's work? It looks like an accurate representation of a hostile rat about to bite you. Here in the picture above, he looks like your best pal. Weird huh?

    Trainers who caught or befriended the Raticate Evolution Line
    Blue (Rival, Games)
    Yellow (Pokemon Adventures)
    Youngster Joey... and a lot of other Youngsters. Why? (Games)

    My Super Special Awesome Raticate
    Raticate
    Item: Flame Orb
    Ability: Guts
    Nature: Jolly Nature (+Spe, - Sp. Atk)
    EVs: 252 Atk/252 Spe
    Facade
    Sucker Punch
    U-Turn/Pursuit
    Protect/Swords Dance

    So Raticate's favored playstyle since abilities were introduced is making use of it's ability with Guts which of course involves Facade and Protect but for those who want the extra fire power, Swords Dance is good too but some might not prefer to waste it on Raticate since his speed isn't that good to outspeed a lot of Pokemon but if successful, Raticate's Facade hits like a truck, able to one-shot a Garchomp... if you find a way to outspeed it. I don't know about you but I bet Raticate would be a lot more viable if GameFreak increased his speed. Honestly it's through this Pokemon, you see why Smogon tiers were created, to give Pokemon like Raticate a fighting chance.

    My Super Special Awesome Doubles Raticate
    Raticate
    Item: Mago Berry
    Ability: Guts
    Nature: Jolly Nature (+Spe, - Sp. Atk)
    EVs: 252 HP/252 Spe
    Final Gambit
    Super Fang
    Protect
    Toxic

    So this is an annoying Raticate set but it's only as efficient as the team... as in you literally need to build a team partly around Raticate. Specifically have a "Follow Me" Pokemon in Doubles because obviously the chance of this Pokemon still getting one or two-shot is pretty high in doubles.

    FEAR Raticate
    Raticate
    Item: Focus Sash
    Ability: Guts
    Nature: Jolly Nature (+Spe, - Sp. Atk)
    EVs: 252 HP/252 Spe
    Counter
    Endeavor
    Quick Attack

    Just for fun, it's only as viable as the gamble itself. Well I suppose sending out Raticate is itself a gamble.

    My Super Special Awesome Alolan Raticate
    Alolan Raticate
    Item: Darknium-Z/Normalium-Z
    Ability: Hustle
    Nature: Jolly Nature (+Spe, - Sp. Atk)
    EVs: 252 Atk/252 Spe
    Swords Dance
    Sucker Punch
    Knock-Off
    Double-Edge

    Basic Alolan Raticate offense set. Just watch-out for those fighting-types.
     
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