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Community POTW #146

Discussion in 'POTW Collaboration' started by Serebii, Oct 13, 2013.

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  1. Serebii

    Serebii And, as if by magic, the webmaster appeared... Staff Member Admin

    It's the penultimate Gen V Pokémon of the Week, and this week, before Dragons become redundant, we're focusing on one of the classics


    It's Dragonite. Dragonite can be an awesome Pokémon, especially when with Multiscale


    Go nuts
  2. Meowmeow

    Meowmeow selfproclaimed guru

    Dragonite is literally my favorite dragon.
    Dragonite is a versatile threat with the stats to back it up. It isn't specialized for a specific task, but Dragonite will always fail to disappoint.
    There is one exception: using Dragonite in the most conventional way. Doing so will make Dragonite be compared to Salamence.

    Meowmeow's Dragonite
    Nature: Adamant
    Ability: Inner Focus
    EVs: 252 attack and HP, 4 defense
    @: Muscle Band/Leftovers

    Focus Punch

    While it looks like I am setting aside Dragonite's best quality (new ability Multiscale), the purpose of this Dragonite is to hit as hard as possible for neutral damage. Outrage is Dragonite's heaviest STAB move and Focus Punch is Dragonite's heaviest coverage move that works well with Outrage. Extremespeed is the game's best priority move. Roost over Extremespeed ensures that my Dragonite can break things longer.
    This is a very unconventional setup for Dragonite. However, I chose this setup because it works well with my team of Whimsicott, Gastrodon, Terrakion, Victini, and Eelektross. For my Dragonite, once it has Substitute up, nothing is safe and the other five members of my team ensure that.
    Last edited: Oct 13, 2013
  3. Sceptile Leaf Blade

    Sceptile Leaf Blade Well-Known Member

    Oh Dragonite. How you used to be so inferior to Salamence. Less speed, less offensive stats, no intimidate, and only a slightly better movepool with punching moves, superpower, heal bell, and thunderbolt. Gen 5 has been kind to Dragonite, giving it back its beloved Extremespeed it had back in Crystal, as well as giving it Multiscale. The prevalence of rain is also advantageous to Dragonite, who can take good advantage of it. Now Dragonite is one of the top threats of the OU game. Much more bulky than Salamence, a larger movepool, and getting Extremespeed as a priority move while Salamence gets no priority at all.

    Ororo Dragonite @ Life Orb / Leftovers / Choice Specs / Choice Scarf
    Timid nature
    252 Sp. Atk, 252 Speed, 4 HP
    Trait: Multiscale
    -Dragon Pulse / Draco Meteor
    -Roost / Surf

    Thumbs up to you if you get the name. This Dragonite works in rain. Dragon Pulse is STAB, it can be replaced by Draco Meteor if you want. Thunder destroys water types that frequently carry ice beam, and Hurricane is powerful STAB that can cause confusion. Roost is recovery, while Surf is an additional offensive option that hits some pokémon like Terrakion for good damage and gets a rain boost so it's practically a third STAB move.

    Only use Roost when not going choiced. Scarf can surprise foes expecting to be faster than you, like Salamence wanting to Outrage, Latios wanting to Draco Meteor, and Terrakion wanting to launch Stone Edge, while Specs comes with its usual benefits. Life Orb adds power but doesn't work too well in conjunction with Multiscale. Leftovers combined with Roost allows you to use Dragonite in a defensive way and take good advantage of Multiscale. I recommend Draco Meteor when using choice (it adds a lot of damage against the likes of Latios and Hydreigon) and Dragon Pulse on the Leftovers set.
    Last edited: Oct 14, 2013
  4. philzone

    philzone Ready for trumpets

    Both inner focus and multi scale are great in vgc. As inner focus makes you immune to fake out flinch, and multiscale can stop the harsh ice moves around.
  5. OceanicLanturn

    OceanicLanturn Non non non!

    Dragonite @ Leftovers
    Trait: Multiscale
    EVs: 252 SDef / 252 HP / 4 Atk
    Careful Nature
    - Dragon Tail
    - Thunder Wave
    - Roost
    - Substitute

    Shuffling Dragonite. It's pretty awesome. It can easily spread paralysis through the use of Dragon Tail + Thunder Wave. With Roost + Multiscale, it can be a formidable stuff to take down. Dragon Tail lets you shuffle the foe's team, effectively letting you paralysing some mons and let the ground types go away. Substitute is useful, since it blocks Toxic, breaking your Multiscale, and other factors that will hinder your spreading.
  6. Mestorn

    Mestorn Wandering Battler

    Oh Dragonite, the classic dragon that doesn’t really look like a dragon.

    Pros: The original pseudo-legendary, Dragonite has a lot going for it. A massive Physical Attack, high Special stats, and all around “good” stats, Dragonite lacks little in the stats department. Its typing is acceptable as well; as I pointed out when we did Altaria, the strengths and weaknesses of Flying-Dragons are very well known. It’s movepool in conjunction with its stats is what makes Dragonite truly frightening, making it the most versatile of all the pseudo-legends. It can viably run both a physical and a special sweeping movesets, a rain-based moveset, dual-screens, saboteur, cleric, etc. The possibilities are vast. Dragonite’s ability isn’t that much to write home… Oh wait. That’s Inner Focus. Dragonite’s dream world ability is utterly ludicrous, allowing it to tank all but the strongest of Ice attacks, giving it a pseudo, renewable (thanks to Roost) Focus Sash. Wow. Just wow.

    Cons: As stated before, the weaknesses of Flying dragon are very well known. Even with Multiscale, Ice attacks sting like hell, and a Stealth Rock weakness doesn’t help either, considering the presence of the floating stones breaks Multiscale. While Dragonite is a defensive behemoth when Multiscale is active, once broken, powerful attacks can send the original dragon plummeting to the ground.

    The Verdict: Dragonite is like fine cheese; it gets better with age. Expect to see this guy in Generation 6.
  7. Kraleck

    Kraleck Well-Known Member

    Dragon Type. Pretty much all you had to say in Gen I to describe its main perk. Now we have Gen VI and it's threatened by Fairy Types. Until the Gen VI PotW series, we have little to worry about.

    -HP - Good-bordering-Great - Base 91 HP is pretty good for...well, anything really. You're only slightly behind Salamence.
    -Attack - Incredible - Base 134 puts you 1 point behind Salamence on raw power.
    -Defense - Good-bordering-Great - This is where Dragonite starts to shine beyond its Hoenn cousin. Base 95 is pretty good paired with that HP.
    -Sp.Atk - Great - Base 100 is, once again, slightly behind Salamence. You do get some real heavy Special Moves, though.
    -Sp.Def - Great - Salamence wishes it had these defenses. Base 100 is the second of the main differences.
    -Speed - Good (Non-Trick Room) - Base 80 is just barely into the realm of Non-Trick Room teams. Salamence has passed you in a sprint, but Dragonite runs for endurance...

    -Inner Focus - Prevents those eternally-annoying Flinches. Good Ability, but not so much as...
    -Multiscale - You take half damage when you're at full HP. Rock and Dragon Weaknesses are reduced to Neutral and Ice Quad Weakness is reduced to Weakness. You almost always have one shot at this Ability being useful (outside of a Roost set), but you'll easily get a Dragon Dance off where Salamence cannot and start to mow down opponents. Especially beware of Stealth Rock, Sandstorm, and Hail with this Ability.

    Moveset Nickname: 'Nite of the Storm
    Stats: Mild, Max Speed & Sp.Atk, rest Attack
    Ability: Multiscale
    Item: Leftovers/Expert Belt/Life Orb/Zoom Lens
    Moves: Dragon Rush, Aqua Tail/Waterfall, Thunder, Hurricane
    Strategy: Use on a Rain Team and drop the hammer. Mixed Dragonite + Rain is a fickle balance to strike. What makes it easier to opt for is the chance to Para-fusion Flinch-hax. It's an all-or-nothing set inspired by an all-or-nothing Ability.
  8. Rayofquazar

    Rayofquazar Well-Known Member

    Dragonite is my favorite pokemon in OU. Tied with venusaur. That's why I use both of them in a sun team. While sun doesn't really help dragonite much, this dragon couldn't care less. It is effective in every weather, in every situation. While the introduction of salamence caused this dragon to take a step back, Dragonite came back with a vengeance with a playstile pretty much different from salamence. While salamence can't be used except as a sweeper, Dragonite can fill lots of roles in your team... It has better defenses and better movepool and a much needed better ability than inner focus.

    Multiscale is what brought dragonite back to it's former glory. It nearly assures that dragonite will survive the first attack. Even an ice type attack can be survived seing dragonite's great defenses. Dragonite's main negative, is it's speed. Base 80 is so mediocre. However, dragonite has access to extremespeed as well as dragon dance allowing it to bypass this shortcoming.

    My Sun set for dragonite:
    Nature: +Speed / -Sp att
    Evs: 252 ATT / 252 Speed / 4 hp
    -Dragon dance
    -Dragon claw
    -Extremespeed / Fire punch / Aqua tail / roost

    This set is designed to work in any condition. Go out, Take a hit while setting up dragon dance and begin your outrage... Well... Your dragon claws! One boost in enough to let you cut through opponent teams like nothing. Earthquake is a good second attack that have a good coverage especially against heatran. The last slot is a tossup, Extremespeed is always good finishing off weakned foes. Fire punch works like a second stab move in sun hitting genesect and ferrothorn, forretress really hard. Aqua tail is the same in rain covering ground and rock types notably landorus that will mostly have HP ice to destroy you. Roost is here if you wanted recovery and possibly another shot at multiscale but it's rather unreliable and would be much more useful on a defensive set as dragonite will need it's coverage.

    The problem with this set is that it will always have a check or counter as it fails at covering every threat. Sets lacking extremespeed will be exposed to scarfed pokemon notably keldeo with icy wind and landorus with HP ice. Latias and Latios can be mentionned here. Variants lacking fire punch are walled by ferrothorn and forretress as well as skarmory all of them not taking big damage from EQ. Aqua tail is the most expendable attack but it helps against certain threats like volcarona and landorus but meh!
  9. T-Bolt

    T-Bolt Electrifying.

    Bulky Dragon dance
    Dragonite@Lum berry
    Careful nature
    252 Hp/68 SpDef/188 Speed
    -Dragon Dance
    -Dragon Claw
    -Fire punch/Earthquake

    This set capitalizes on Roost's abilty to remove dragonite's Flying Typing, allowing Dragonite to survive hidden power ice and Stone edges from most pokemon with quite some Hp to spare. Dragon dance is the obligatory boosting move and helps Dnite roost before the opponent to remove that Flying typing, and more often than not, take lesser damage than you recover. Roost heals dragonite, Dragon claw is STAB and the last move is for coverage. the EVs allow Dragonite to outspeed max speed Starmie at +1, and the rest go into bulk so that Dragonite functions as a bulky set up sweeper. Lum berry so that Toxic and will-o-wisp don't come in the way of your sweep.
    Last edited: Oct 16, 2013
  10. justinjiaxinghu

    justinjiaxinghu class on my back

    Dragonite is a staple on weatherless that will probably be even more popular in the OU metagame due to the nerf in weather.

    Dragonite@Choice Band
    EVS: 252 Atk; 252 Spd; 4 HP
    Nature: Adamant/Jolly
    Trait: Multiscale
    - Outrage
    - Extremespeed
    - Earthquake/Dragon Claw
    - Fire Punch/Dragon Claw

    This set utilizes Dragonite's massive attack stat to smash through every type of team. With Multiscale intact, it can take on any other Dragon Type head on and win bar Sashed Dragons. This set should be used with a wishpasser, i.e. Jirachi/Blissey so that Multiscale can be constantly used over and over again.
  11. Poke124

    Poke124 New Member

    Im new here, how would i contribute to the collaboration? can i be taught how this works?
  12. sbktdreed

    sbktdreed Veteran Trainer

    Physical set
    Adamant w/ Lum/Prisim Berry
    252 Attack, 130 HP, 128 Defense/Sp Defense
    Outrage/Dragon Rush
    Brick Break/Earthquake
    Aerial Ace/Aqua Jet/Aqua Tail/Fire Punch/Thunderpunch
    Hone Claws/Fire Punch/Thunderpunch

    Special set
    Modest w/ White Herb/Life Orb
    252 Sp Attack, 130 HP, 128 Defense/Sp Defense
    Draco Meteor/Dragon Pulse
    Focus Blast

    Mixed set
    Brave/Quiet w/ Life Orb/Lum Berry
    252 Attack, 252 Sp Attack, 6 Defense/HP/Sp Defense
    Dragon Rush/Outrage
    Brick Break/Focus Blast/Earthquake

    High Defense and Attack with Ice/Rock/Dragon-type moves like Metagross, Gliscor, and Tyranitar. Other pokemon includes Glaceon and Frost Rotom.
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