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Community POTW #27

Discussion in 'POTW Collaboration' started by Serebii, Jul 3, 2011.

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  1. Serebii

    Serebii And, as if by magic, the webmaster appeared... Staff Member Admin

    Reno's busy writing the last one so here's the next one

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    This week we'll be doing Reshiram, the Pokémon that adorns the cover of Pokémon Black

    http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-bw/643.shtml

    Reshiram is a rather interesting legendary Pokémon with a decent typing and brilliant movepool

    Go nuts.
     
  2. Spec-sham
    Reshiram (Timid) @Choice Spec
    Turboblaze
    EVs: 4HP/252SpAtk/252Spe
    -Draco Meteor
    -Overheat
    -Focus Blast/Psychic/Shadow Ball/SolarBeam/Hyper Voice
    -Focus Blast/Psychic/Shadow Ball/SolarBeam/Hyper Voice

    Choice Reshiram, Draco Meteor and Blue Flare are STAB, the rest are coverage, Focus Blast is less accuracy, but great coverage, Psychic for Fighting, Shadow ball for ghost, Solarbeam only in sun pairing with Groudon, Hyper Voice for normal coverage.

    Physical Reshiram
    Reshiram (Jolly/Adamant) @Life Orb
    Turboblaze
    EVs: 4HP/252Atk/252Spe
    -Flame Charge/Fire Fang
    -Dragon Claw/Outrage
    -Stone Edge
    -Crunch

    Reshiram 120 base attack still usable for kill Blissey, Flame Charge boost Reshiram mediocre speed, or Fire fang for extra power, Dragon claw for Dragon STAB, but you may use Outrage for more power, Stone edge and crunch for coverage

    Dual Screen
    Reshiram (Timid) @Light Clay
    Turboblaze
    EVs: 4HP/252SpAtk/252Spe
    -Reflect
    -Light Screen
    -Dragon Pulse/Dragon Meteor
    -Blue Flare

    Classic Dual Screen, Reflect and Light Screen self explanatory, the rest just for attacking

    Best Partner:
    Reshiram will happy in the sun so Groudon is it best friend
     
    Last edited: Jul 3, 2011
  3. pikadon92

    pikadon92 Beware of it's tail!

    I have a modest reshiram in my team right now. What is the recommended EVs for it?

    This is what I planned reshiram's moveset to be like:

    Reshiram @ WiseGlasses(?)
    Modest Nature
    EVs: 4 HP, 252 SpAtt, 252 Spd
    -Blue Flare
    -Dragon Pulse
    -Solarbeam
    -Focus Blast

    Unfortunately for Reshiram, 90 base speed makes it slow in Ubers, so it's pointless to invest on speed isn't it?

    But otherwise, this set is supposed to take advantage of reshiram's 150 base sp. att stat and, for my case, its modest nature. Outside of coverage, shadow ball handels the psychic and focus blast is against blissey/chansey that could've pop up.

    For the item, I picked wiseglasses as its 10% boost does help bring its Sp.Att stat to about 481 compared to 438 by having max IV, right nature and 252 sp.att. I'm still not sure whether it's the right item though.
     
    Last edited: Jul 3, 2011
  4. cookies kill you

    cookies kill you Like a boss

    ScarfSham
    Reshiram Modest/Timid Choice Scarf
    Evs 4hp 252 SpA 252 Spe
    -Flamethrower/Fusion Flare/Blue Flare
    -Dragon Pulse/Draco Meteor
    -Psychic/Shadow ball/Focus blast
    -Psychic/Shadow ball/Focus blast
     
  5. asterat

    asterat Banned

    Fourth post
    Reshiram is a powerful pokemon in every aspect and unquestionably gets an express ticket to ubers. He has really good attack sp atk, HP, good speed etc. He is really powerful.

    Groudon's helper
    -solar beam
    -Overheat
    -shadow ball
    -Draco meteor
    Item: choice specs/scarf
    EVs:252 ap atk (modest), 252 speed, 4 HP
    Wow this is powerful. Fire running around is painful and overheat and Draco meteor hit for 210 power apiece, then putin base 150 special attack. His signature moves ate sort of gimmicky, and with so much pressure in ubers it's hard to find reliable PP in them. Plus, blue flare has lower accuracy. Overheat also has low PP, but more power and accuracy. Fusion flare has less power, and you would use flamethrower over it. Reshiram lacks a really good move pool so shadow ball is for the walls giratina and lugia, and other psychics and solar beam is for awesomeness in the sun, it hits Kyogre and anything else that is water, which is good because groudon will be fighting for weather superiority.
     
    Last edited: Jul 3, 2011
  6. Tyranitarquake

    Tyranitarquake HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAX!!!

    Reshiram@choice scarf
    Turboblaze
    Timid nature (+spe -atk)
    EVs: 4hp, 252 spatk, 252 spe
    -fusion flare/blue flare
    -draco meteor
    -shadow ball
    -Psychic/focus blast

    This set goes for full out speed and power. Send in, attack and retreat if a pokemon resists your move. This is great for draco meteor as you can hit and switch to get rid of the drawback. Draco meteor Is also a powerfull STAB move.
    Fusion flare or blue flare depending on what you want; accuracy or power. Both are powerfull STAB moves.
    Focus blast has great coverage and shadow ball is for those psychics that may get in your way. Psychic is also for coverage.
     
    Last edited: Jul 3, 2011
  7. SazandoraMASTER

    SazandoraMASTER ♥ PSG ♥

    Life Orb
    -Flamethrower/Fusion Flare/Blue Flare
    -Dragon Pulse/Draco Meteor
    -Shadow Ball
    -Focus Blast/Hidden Power (Grass)
    Item Attached: Life Orb
    Ability: Turboblaze
    EV's and Nature:
    EV's: 4 HP/252 Sp.Atk/252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    An all out attacker. Probably the best set on Reshiram. Choose your Fire and Dragon move and that'll be the moves you hit hard with. Shadow Ball takes care of many Ubers such as Mewtwo and Giratina. Focus Blast for a filler. It can hit anything hard, Hidden Power (Grass) makes sure Reshiram takes care of Groudon.

    Flame Charge
    -Flame Charge
    -Flamethrower/Fusion Flare/Blue Flare
    -Dragon Pulse
    -Shadow Ball/Focus Blast/Hidden Power (Grass)
    Item Attached: Life Orb/Leftovers/Balloon/Focus Sash/Expert Belt
    Ability: Turboblaze
    EV's and Nature:
    EV's: 4 HP/252 Sp.Atk/252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)/Modest (+Sp.Atk, -Atk)
    This time you'll be making Reshiram's slow speed, faster. Same moves but Flame Charge in there. You have a variety of items to choose from so pick one. You can run Modest Nature for that deadly Max 438 Sp.Atk stat.

    Choice Specs
    -Flamethrower/Fusion Flare/Blue Flare
    -Dragon Pulse/Draco Meteor
    -Shadow ball
    -Focus Blast/Hidden Power (Grass)
    Item Attached: Choice Specs
    Ability: Turboblaze
    EV's and Nature:
    EV's: 4 HP/252 Sp.Atk/252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    Should've just combined the Life Orb set and this one. Still, same set but with Choice Specs.

    Choice Scarf
    -Flamethrower/Fusion Flare/Blue Flare
    -Dragon Pulse/Draco Meteor
    -Shadow ball
    -Focus Blast/Hidden Power (Grass)
    Item Attached: Choice Scarf
    Ability: Turboblaze
    EV's and Nature:
    EV's: 4 HP/252 Sp.Atk/252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)/Modest Nature (+Sp.Atk, -Atk)
    These will be Reshiram's best moves I swearz. I already have two other sets with the exact moves >.> You'll be out speeding many Ubers with the Scarf but other Scarfed things will wreck you.

    Physically-Mixed Offensive
    -Dragon Claw/Outrage
    -Crunch
    -Stone Edge/Rock Slide
    -Draco Meteor/Blue Flare
    Item Attached: Life Orb/Expert Belt
    Ability: Turboblaze
    EV's and Nature:
    EV's: 252 Atk/64 Sp.Atk/192 Spd
    Naive Nature (+Spd, -Sp.Def)
    With Reshiram's respectable base 120 Atk stat, it can probably work as a Physical Sweeper. Dragon Claw or Outrage for STAB. Crunch handles Mewtwo and Giratina. Stone Edge or Rock Slide for filler. They can hurt Skymin which is nice. Draco Meteor and Blue Flare can hit anything pretty damn hard so choose one.

    Physically-Mixed Offensive Scarfed
    -Dragon Claw/Outrage
    -Crunch
    -Stone Edge/Rock Slide
    -Draco Meteor/Blue Flare
    Item Attached: Choice Scarf
    Ability: Turboblaze
    EV's and Nature:
    EV's: 252 Atk/64 Sp.Atk/192 Spd
    Naive Nature (+Spd, -Sp.Def)/Naughty Nature (+Atk, -Sp.Def)
    Same set but with a Scarf. You can run Naughty for a max 372 Attack stat.

    Physically Offensive
    -Dragon Claw/Outrage
    -Crunch
    -Stone Edge/Rock Slide
    -Flame Charge
    Item Attached: Life Orb/Expert Belt
    Ability: Turboblaze
    EV's and Nature:
    EV's: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
    Jolly Nature (+Spd, -Atk)/Adamant Nature (+Atk, -Sp.Atk)
    Same set once again but physically offensive period.

    Other Options

    Instead of using Hidden Power (Grass), you can run Solarbeam but only if you're running Groudon for the sun. Even with Groudon, chances are Kyogre will come in and rain in your parade (pun intended).
    Psychic and Extrasensory are another option but poor coverage is poor. It doesn't really hit anything hard in Ubers besides Blaziken but thats probably it.
    Hidden Power (Water) covers Reshiram the same as Hidden Power (Grass) but chances are you'll be running Groudon or be in front of a Groudon. Which means its power is weakened.
    Hyper Voice. Respectable BP, but no STAB. Hits most things neutrally in Ubers though.
    Shadow Claw has a high crit-ratio but it can't hit Normals and has a lower BP than Crunch.
    Dragon Tail is good for shuffling but Reshiram won't be appreciating negative priority since it only has the usual 100 base HP, unlike Giratina which has base 150 HP.

    Partners
    In terms of synergy, Reshiram can defend Kyogre and Manaphy for resisting Grass and Electric moves. Reshiram will be happy with Groudon for the sun and Groudon defends Reshiram by resisting Rock, while Reshiram defends Groudon by resisting Grass. If you don't plan on using other Ubers for partners, Bronzong and Skarmory work well as a partner for Reshiram. They can take each other's weaknesses quite nicely.
     
    Last edited: Jul 4, 2011
  8. oh sweet!
    reshiram is my favo legendary

    reshi needs glasses/scarf

    reshiram@choice specs/scarf
    ability:turboblaze
    evs and nature
    modest/timid
    252 SPatt 252 SPD 4 Hp
    moves:
    flamethrower/fusion flare/overheat
    dragon pulse/draco meteor
    shadow ball/psychic
    focus blast/solar beam

    reshi gets physical!!

    reshiram@choice band/expert belt/life orb/muscle band
    ability:turboblaze
    evs and nature
    adamant/jolly
    252 Att 252 SPD 4 Hp
    moves:
    dragon claw/outrage/dragon tail
    rock slide/stone edge
    shadow claw/crunch
    flame charge/fire fang

    (note: ^ it's just an idea....)

    looking at the battle through glass

    reshiram@light clay
    ability:turboblaze
    evs and nature
    bold
    126 Hp 252 def 126 SPdef 4 Spatt
    moves:
    light screen
    reflect
    will-o-wisp/toxic/safeguard
    dragon pulse

    other options:hidden power(for set #1)(,rest,chesto berry,substitute for set #3)
    i guess that's everything usefull it can use... hehe

    Countering reshi
    well my favo b4 reshi PALKIA!!! nice type coverage hitting with draco meteor/hydro pump
    Max Hp SPdef tina can stall out he's PP allday long using sub and with some STAB dragon attacks
    kyogre sets up rain and pretty much cripples reshi and kill it off with STAB rain boosted surf
    and well pretty much things in the uber tier can counter reshi well...
     
    Last edited: Jul 3, 2011
  9. The Intersect

    The Intersect Moveset Master

    Really Reshiram? wasn't expecting that well as i did for Heracross i will just observe
     
  10. First page! God I'm quick today!

    Ancient God
    Reshiram @ Wise Glasses
    Ability: Turboblaze
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd / 4HP
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Fusion Flare
    - Dragon Pulse
    - Focus Blast
    - Ancientpower

    This is a pure attacking moveset for Reshiram, that allows a successful sweep without unwanted things occurring. Fusion Flare is a powerful move that is strong, accurate, and doesn't have any adverse effects like Overheat does. Dragon Pulse is much the same. Both of those are powerful and get STAB from the Vast White Pokemon.
    Focus Blast has a LOT of strengths, being fighting type. It also has the chance of lowering the opponent's Special Defence, which is always nice.
    And finally, Ancientpower. Rock is strong against quite a few types, but the main reason Reshiram has this is for the awesome stat boost. If used repeatedly and is you have a little luck, Reshiram becomes very powerful indeed.
    Wise Glasses just helps with this set, which is completely special based.

    Sunny Side up!
    Reshiram @ Heat Rock / White herb
    Ability: Turboblaze
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd / 4HP
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Blue Flare
    - Draco Meteor
    - Sunny Day
    - Solarbeam

    A very similar set to the last, with two powerful STAB moves. There is also Sunny Day, boosted in Length by the Heat Rock, which allows Blue Flare to be more powerful and Solarbeam to attack first turn. Solarbeam is especially useful for taking care of Rock, Ground and Water types who could instantly wreck Reshiram, Whilst Draco Meteor takes care of Dragon capable of doing the same thing.
    White Herb is there to try and make the stat reductions of Draco Meteor less felt.

    PARTNERS
    For the Sunny Day user, you could easily replace Sunny Day and Heat Rock with the White herb and Focus Blast if you have Groudon on your side and the opponent chooses not to field Rayquaza, Kyogre, or any other Weather abuser.

    Zekrom is also a natural friend to Reshiram, as together, they can take on both sides of the Spectrum, both Physical and Special. A Zekrom with Fusion bolt, Crunch, Stone Edge and Zen Headbutt works well.
     
    Last edited: Jul 3, 2011
  11. TimmahX

    TimmahX Well-Known Member

    Countering Reshiram

    Ground, Rock and Dragon are the only types that hit for Super Effective damage here, but thankfully, finding a faster threat than Reshiram in Ubers with a Dragon attack is pretty easy. Kyurem, Arceus, Palkia, Rayquaza all outrun the White Behemoth, and can strike it down with some high powered Outrages or Draco Meteors. Dialga is fairly safe against Reshiram, unless it carries Focus Blast (But it needs to worry about opposing Groudons more than Dialga) so that is an unlikely circumstance. Speaking of Groudon, a Scarf variation ensure that it outruns Reshiram and knocks it clean off the field. Kyogre shuts down its Fire attacks and walls everything else but HP [Grass] that it holds for Groudon. Landorus is another nice pick, and Thundurus can debilitate it with Thunder Wave. Finally, Ho-Oh eats it's attacks like they're nothing, thanks to it's huge bulk and Fire resistance. Terrakion covers the Rock weakness, as well as Stealth Rock. Terrakion isn't an uber tier by any means though, but it's worth noting as it's the closest thing that can do this.
     
    Last edited: Jul 3, 2011
  12. frogofdoom555

    frogofdoom555 (>:O) FFFFFFUUUUUU

    Hmm. Never thought i'd see this guy. His unique typing gives him unique weaknesses and unique stats and moves
    Here's my set.

    Solar-Ram @ Leftovers
    Turboblaze
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 54 Speed

    Blue Flare
    Dragon Pulse
    Sunny Day
    Solar Beam

    Blue Flare and Dragon Pulse are for Fantastic STAB.
    Sunny Day and Solar Beam are the stars of the show, taking care of anything that has advantage over Solar-Ram's Fire Typing.
    All Solar-ram needs is a boost of speed and it will be complete.
     
  13. Pokeman Man

    Pokeman Man The Real Slim Shady

    Scarf-Sham
    - Overheat / Blue Flare
    - Draco Meteor
    - Solarbeam
    - Focus Blast
    Item: Choice Scarf
    Ability: Turboblaze
    Evs and Nature:
    252 Spe / 252 SpA / 4 HP
    Timid nature

    Groudon's favorite partner. The Drought powers up your STAB Fire move, wrecking anything that doesn't resist it. Draco Meteor provides nearly perfect coverage with Fire, and Solarbeam hits Waters and Grounds that could threaten Reshi. Focus Blast helps with Normal-Arceus and Dialga, and more.



    Flame Charge
    - Flame Charge
    - Fusion Flare
    - Dragon Pulse
    - Solarbeam / Focus Blast / HP Grass
    Item: Life Orb / Leftovers
    Ability: Turboblaze
    Evs and Nature:
    252 Spe / 252 SpA / 4 HP
    Timid nature

    Reshiram's sweeping powers are let down by it's under average for Uber speed, but luckily Flame Charge can make up for that. Flame Charge anything you know you can already outspeed to revenge kill, or Flame Charge predicting a switch. Then sweep with your unresisted STAB Combo (Except Heatran [EDIT: I FORGOT RESHIRAM HAS TURBOBLAZE SO RESHIRAM CAN HIT ANYTHING WITH IT'S STAB!]) and your filler move. Solarbeam tears Waters and Grounds in the Sun, and HP Grass if you don't have Sun support. Focus Blast deals with Dialga, Arceus, Darkrai, etc.
     
    Last edited: Jul 7, 2011
  14. You seem to have missed out rock as both a super-effective type and a good type to lap up Fire attacks. Terrakion is faster, has some dangerous STAB moves and a high attack stat. Though he's not in ubers, he could quite comfortably be used to get rid of Reshiram with at most two Stone Edges.
     
    Last edited: Jul 3, 2011
  15. Ghosts of the Forums

    Ghosts of the Forums Who Ya Gonna Call?

    All right, Reshiram! Heh. On with the sets!

    Choice
    Reshiram @Choice Specs/Choice Scarf
    Turboblaze
    Nature: Modest (+Sp. Atk, -Atk)/Timid (+Spe, -Atk)
    4Hp, 252 Sp. Atk, 252 Spe

    -Blue Flare
    -Draco Meteor/Dragon Pulse
    -Shadow Ball
    -Focus Blast/Hidden Power(Fighting)

    Choice Reshiram, Blue Flare has beastly attack power, and has STAB, so does Draco Meteor, which gives perfect coverage with Blue Flare thanks to Turboblaze, but if you don't like the Special Attack drop, Dragon Pulse is an option. Shadow Ball and Focus Blast for coverage, though Focus Blast has quite shaky accuracy, so Hidden Power Fighting is an option.

    Dual Screens
    Reshiram @Leftovers/Light Clay
    Turboblaze
    Nature: Timid (+Spe, -Atk)
    200 Hp, 36 Sp. Atk, 36 Def, 36 Sp. Def, 200Spe

    -Blue Flare
    -Dragon Pulse
    -Reflect
    -Light Screen

    Sets up Dual Screens. Blue Flare and Dragon Pulse for perfect coverage and to attack. Leftovers are used for healing, or Light Clay can be used for longer-lasting Screens.

    Life Orb
    Reshiram @Life Orb
    Turboblaze
    Nature: Timid (+Sp. Atk, -Atk)
    4 Hp, 252 Sp. Atk, 252 Spe

    -Blue Flare
    -Draco Meteor/Dragon Pulse
    -Shadow Ball
    -Focus Blast/Hidden Power (Fighting)

    Pretty much the same set as Choice Reshiram, except with Life Orb. May not be as strong/fast as a choice set, but Life Orb provides more options.
     
  16. TimmahX

    TimmahX Well-Known Member

    I was looking at uber threats, and the amount of them that carry Stone Edge isn't that high. And even then, most of them have either STAB Outrage / Dragon Claw/ Dragon Pulse / Outrage / Earth Power / Earthquake to deal with Reshiram. Stealth Rock is also a rare factor because not many ubers can set it up.
     
  17. 3.14kachu

    3.14kachu 2.72pic √(-1)nventor

    I can't believe I'm the first to post this set, but Reshiram can easily pull off a

    Mixed Set
    Reshiram @ Life Orb
    Ability: Turboblaze
    Nature: Brave
    EVs: 100 Sp Atk, 252 Atk, 156 Spd
    -Dragon Pulse
    -Dragon Claw
    -Fusion Flare
    -Flame Charge

    This moveset has both a physical and a special version of the classic fire/dragon combo that gets perfect coverage and also happens to be STAB. If the defenses are more or less equal, use Flame Charge to boost Reshiram's speed, making it faster than Mewtwo. Alternately, put all 252 EVs into Spd to outrun normal form Deoxys after a single boost.
     
  18. stargod13

    stargod13 Member

    Out of curiosity will zekchome be done next week
     
  19. Man_of_Girth

    Man_of_Girth Like A Boss

    I see a lot pf specs sets with all different attack types. Focus Blast seems to be common on all of them but in reality, anything other than a Fire or Dragon type attack is unnecessary. Fire/Dragon provides unresisted coverage because of turboblaze. (Normally Hetran might like to come in on one of Reshiram's STAB attacks, but turboblaze stops flash fire, so nothing resists it.) Here's my personal specs set:

    SpecsRam
    Reshiram @ Choice Specs (obviously)
    Ability: Turboblaze
    Nature: Timid/Modest
    EVs: 252 Sp Atk / 252 speed / 4 other OR 252 HP / 252 Sp Atk / 4 other
    -Blue Flare
    -Draco Meteor
    -Flamethrower
    -Dragon Pulse

    Blue Flare and Draco Meteor hit like a truck, if that truck is on fire or falling from space. Flamethrower and Dragon Pulse both have higher PP, accuracy, and Dragon Pulse has no nasty side effect. Use Blue Flare and Draco Meteor for OHKO stuff, or at least make a big dent. Later, Flamethrower and Dragon Pulse are there to finish off weakened stuff without having to worry about a rouge miss, lack of PP or Draco Meteor's Sp Atk drop. Like I said earlier, this is unresisted. Other reasons not to use unSTAB moves include but are not limited to: Focus Blast's terrible accuracy, super effective Shadow Ball < neutral STAB Blue Flare or Draco Meteor, etc.
     
  20. Yellow De Viridian Grove

    Yellow De Viridian Grove Well-Known Member

    ^agreed. Reshiram doesn't need coverage moves too badly. I personally used the above set and it's nice to have some 100% Accurate moves to fall back on.
     
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