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Community POTW #6
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why would you use swords dance
you would get OHKOed by a starmie if you wasted a turn using swords dance
Swords Dance is definity not a waste of time, and there is no guarantee your opponent will have a Starmie... Swords Dance sets Garchomp up for a sweep, without it Garchomp would not be as useful.
Also remember what assassinsceptile said.
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what about swampert(mine even knows outrage).
starmies are common and nice and simple to get.
weavile has ice punch
even a scizor can OHKO it =[ (if it has choice band, technichen(is this how its spelt?)and bullet punch. nasty)
if you use swords dance, use it once and give it a focus sash, and make it fast
starmies are common and nice and simple to get.
weavile has ice punch
even a scizor can OHKO it =[ (if it has choice band, technichen(is this how its spelt?)and bullet punch. nasty)
if you use swords dance, use it once and give it a focus sash, and make it fast
#TWERKTEAM
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Ice Beam is better on Swampert because Outrage is garbage without STAB and Ice Beam hits Chomp and Mence harder. Chomp even OHKO's Swampert at +2 with Outrage 101.2% - 119.4%. Starmie isn't very common in 5th gen, which is what this POTW is for, as Chomp is banned from 4th gen standard. Neither Starmie nor Weavile can switch in, making them checks not counters. Scizor is OHKO'd by Fire Blast on the switch, though it can come in on an Outrage or for the revenge kill, making it a check. Focus Sash is useless on a nonlead pokemon as entry hazards will negate your Focus Sash completely.
The best counters in 5th gen for Chomp are still Skarm and Bronzong, although it is revenge killed by a lot more now.
Have to agree, bronzong is a good counter. if it is very slow, use trick room totake chomp out.
weavile may not be able to switch in, yet, it can be a revenge killer, also starmie. mine can ko my garchomp(plus my starmie is shiney with good moves and nature. got on GTS for tyrouge any =])
weavile may not be able to switch in, yet, it can be a revenge killer, also starmie. mine can ko my garchomp(plus my starmie is shiney with good moves and nature. got on GTS for tyrouge any =])
#TWERKTEAM
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If Garchomp is holding a Yache Berry Starmie and Weavile are OHKO'd and can't do the same, as Garchomp is as bulky as a Swampert. Plus, where you got your Starmie from and the fact that it's shiny is irrelevant.
pikamanepicfail45
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yea i knew it. landorus learns outrage at lv 85. also there are about 50 OU pokemon that can learn ice beam
Double/Triple Battle: How about Charizard, Moltres, or Ho-oh as a partner for Garchomp. They don't get hurt by his earthquake and get super effective STAB on ice types that may attempt to get an ice attack in, or just to get rid of Ferrothorn, Skarmory, or Bronzong so that Garchomp can have an extra attack slot where you would normally have Fire Fang.
Or maybe you could use Thunderus, Emolga, or Fan Rotom for the waters that try to get an Ice Beam in.
Or maybe you could use Thunderus, Emolga, or Fan Rotom for the waters that try to get an Ice Beam in.
pikamanepicfail45
<dont dis da awsmnes
that is a good idea, especially with charizard as it is faster than the others and will scare ice types away as most of them are slower than average pokemon. i dont really know what's wrong with my pictures of serperior,hydreigon, and excadrill.
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This set is pretty good, actually. Garchomp doesn't normally need subsitute, but you'd need to run leftovers or you're ice bait. Otherwise, nice idea! Dragon Tail takes care of whoever you aren't good against... so... yeah...
SazandoraMASTER
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Finally some feedback haha I've had to post that twice lol but thanks 
Well, here goes. Sorry if any has posted this set already, I just saw the Garchomp and went straight to reply.
Boost-a-Chomp
Garchomp @ Focus Sash
Adamant / Sand Veil
252 Att - 252 Spd - 4 HP
Hone Claws
Dragon Rush
Earthquake
Brick Break / Stone Edge
Hone Claws begins by not only boosting the Attack stat, but also the accuracy which is great for STAB Dragon Rush, and also Stone Edge if your running it.
Earthquake has awesome coverage.
The choice between Brick Break and Stone Edge is where I get torn. Stone Edge works kinda ace with Earthquake, but Brick Break works fantastic against Tyranitar and covers its x4 Ice Type Weakness. Lately, it's rare I find a team that doesn't have a dark type in it (*cough* Zoroark *cough*) so I would personally prefer Brick Break.
Garchomp can take a big blow while setting up, and if its a good Ice type attack, Focus Sash gives you the reasurance that your going to be able to use that attack and accuracy boost to deal a nice chunk of damage back. Leftovers is OK for some recovery, but it may not help you if you take an Ice Beam first hit. Life Orb is cool, but you risk the loss of HP each time you attack. Choice anything is going to lock you into 1 move, and thats not a good thing for Garchomp.
In Double and Triple Battles, Sand Veil usually kicks in due to the heavily Popular Tyranitar, and thus gaining an evasion boost. Tyranitar Can usually take on what Garchomp cannot so works nicely with Garchomp, just remember that your Tyranitar is not going to be too happy about an Earthquake.
Countering Garchomp is simple enough. Bulky Waters seem your easiest way as Garchomp can't learn anything that will score a super effective hit on one. Water Types can usually carry a good Ice move and will cause Garchomp some pain, especially if you target its slightly lower Sp. Def (Hello reliable Ice Beam).
Boost-a-Chomp
Garchomp @ Focus Sash
Adamant / Sand Veil
252 Att - 252 Spd - 4 HP
Hone Claws
Dragon Rush
Earthquake
Brick Break / Stone Edge
Hone Claws begins by not only boosting the Attack stat, but also the accuracy which is great for STAB Dragon Rush, and also Stone Edge if your running it.
Earthquake has awesome coverage.
The choice between Brick Break and Stone Edge is where I get torn. Stone Edge works kinda ace with Earthquake, but Brick Break works fantastic against Tyranitar and covers its x4 Ice Type Weakness. Lately, it's rare I find a team that doesn't have a dark type in it (*cough* Zoroark *cough*) so I would personally prefer Brick Break.
Garchomp can take a big blow while setting up, and if its a good Ice type attack, Focus Sash gives you the reasurance that your going to be able to use that attack and accuracy boost to deal a nice chunk of damage back. Leftovers is OK for some recovery, but it may not help you if you take an Ice Beam first hit. Life Orb is cool, but you risk the loss of HP each time you attack. Choice anything is going to lock you into 1 move, and thats not a good thing for Garchomp.
In Double and Triple Battles, Sand Veil usually kicks in due to the heavily Popular Tyranitar, and thus gaining an evasion boost. Tyranitar Can usually take on what Garchomp cannot so works nicely with Garchomp, just remember that your Tyranitar is not going to be too happy about an Earthquake.
Countering Garchomp is simple enough. Bulky Waters seem your easiest way as Garchomp can't learn anything that will score a super effective hit on one. Water Types can usually carry a good Ice move and will cause Garchomp some pain, especially if you target its slightly lower Sp. Def (Hello reliable Ice Beam).
very good idea. fire types take out weavile. but also lawnmower rotom would be better as it has levitate and STAB thunderbolt and leaf storm
good item for garchomp is a rowap berry. it hits back when your hit by ice beam. how about attack forme deoxys with ice punch and phsyco boost. that could wreack a garchomp? (only if garchomp hasn't got crunch)
I also forgot. milotic is good for a counter (on 4th gen, palmer's caused so much trouble to my garchomp)
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The Joker.
Gone.
counters-Glaceon it has a reasonable defences and can hit hard with ice beam
-Mamoswine has defence and ice shard
-Skarmory deals with most things garchomp can through at it exept fire fang but should be able to take it
-bronzong almost like skarmory
-Ferrothorn- provides good defence but typing suffers from fire fang
The hone claws set is a nice addition along with dragon tail defensive sets which open up more options for chomp
although the 4th gen sets are still very effective
Update:some counters can probably be dispatched easily so it's bad on my part (first post)
-Mamoswine has defence and ice shard
-Skarmory deals with most things garchomp can through at it exept fire fang but should be able to take it
-bronzong almost like skarmory
-Ferrothorn- provides good defence but typing suffers from fire fang
The hone claws set is a nice addition along with dragon tail defensive sets which open up more options for chomp
although the 4th gen sets are still very effective
Update:some counters can probably be dispatched easily so it's bad on my part (first post)
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#TWERKTEAM
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Again, the only two you listed that are counters are Skarmory and Bronzong, the rest cannot switch in.
Blue Harvest
Banned
Actually Scarf Glaceon can survive Garchomp's hits and OHKO with Ice Beam even through Yache Berry. Too bad its complete garbage otherwise.
The Joker.
Gone.
I see what I did by listing some Pokemon who can just OHKO garchomp.
But Ferrothorn is still viable if you partner it with kingdra (ou) or palkia (uber) so it can safely switch in.
But Ferrothorn is still viable if you partner it with kingdra (ou) or palkia (uber) so it can safely switch in.
#TWERKTEAM
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Jolly LO Outrage vs ScarfGlaceon = 86.4% - 101.8% OHKO with no SD and with rocks up 100% of the time. It can take an EQ though a bit of the time 71.7% - 84.9%. The only move Glaceon can come on safely is Fire Blast.
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