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Competitive Gen VII Team

Discussion in '7th Gen RMT' started by Brockelsby, Dec 31, 2019.

  1. Brockelsby

    Brockelsby New Member

    Hey! This is my first competitive team and I was hoping for advice. I play on Pokemon Showdown Gen VII OU. My Blissey often ends up carrying the team and the rest get knocked out fast. I have also attached a battle transcript.

    Toxapex (M) @ Black Sludge
    Ability: Regenerator
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
    Calm Nature
    Hazard Lead
    IVs: 0 Atk
    - Baneful Bunker
    - Toxic Spikes
    - Recover
    - Sludge Wave

    Haxorus (M) @ Life Orb
    Ability: Mold Breaker
    Physical Sweeper
    Shiny: Yes
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
    Adamant Nature
    - Swords Dance
    - Low Kick
    - Superpower
    - Earthquake

    Alakazam-Mega (M) @ Alakazite
    Ability: Trace
    EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
    Timid Nature
    Special Sweeper
    IVs: 0 Atk
    - Psychic
    - Focus Blast
    - Recover
    - Calm Mind

    Lucario (M) @ Fightinium Z
    Ability: Steadfast
    Physical Sweeper
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
    Jolly Nature
    - Swords Dance
    - Meteor Mash
    - Close Combat
    - Extreme Speed

    Infernape (M) @ Life OrbAbility: Blaze
    EVs: 252 Atk / 64 SpA / 192 Spe
    Hasty Nature
    Mixed Sweeper
    - Stone Edge
    - Close Combat
    - Grass Knot
    - Overheat

    Blissey @ Leftovers
    Ability: Natural Cure
    Shiny: Yes
    Tank
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe
    Bold Nature
    - Wish
    - Protect
    - Toxic
    - Seismic Toss

    ☆Arctic Erebus joined.
    ☆romhillfr joined.
    Format:
    [Gen 7] OU
    Rated battle

    Sleep Clause Mod: Limit one foe put to sleep
    Species Clause: Limit one of each Pokémon
    OHKO Clause: OHKO moves are banned
    Moody Clause: Moody is banned
    Evasion Moves Clause: Evasion moves are banned
    Endless Battle Clause: Forcing endless battles is banned
    HP Percentage Mod: HP is shown in percentages
    Arctic Erebus's team:Toxapex / Haxorus / Alakazam / Lucario / Infernape / Blissey
    romhillfr's team:Raikou / Charizard / Gengar / Tyranitar / Suicune / Serperior

    Battle started between Arctic Erebus and romhillfr!

    Go! Toxapex!

    romhillfr sent out Tyranitar!
    [The opposing Tyranitar's Sand Stream]
    A sandstorm kicked up!

    Turn 1

    Toxapex used Baneful Bunker!
    Toxapex protected itself!

    The opposing Tyranitar used Stealth Rock!
    Pointed stones float in the air around your team!

    The sandstorm is raging.
    Toxapex is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    Toxapex restored a little HP using its Black Sludge!

    Turn 2

    romhillfr withdrew Tyranitar!
    romhillfr sent out Raikou!
    [The opposing Raikou's Pressure]
    The opposing Raikou is exerting its pressure!

    Toxapex used Toxic Spikes!
    Poison spikes were scattered on the ground all around the opposing team!

    The sandstorm is raging.
    The opposing Raikou is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    Toxapex is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    Toxapex restored a little HP using its Black Sludge!

    Turn 3
    Raikou (ignoring abilities):
    Weaknesses: Ground
    Resistances: Electric, Flying, Steel
    Immunities: None

    Toxapex, come back!
    Go! Haxorus!
    Pointed stones dug into Haxorus!
    [Haxorus's Mold Breaker]
    Haxorus breaks the mold!

    The opposing Raikou used Thunderbolt!
    It's not very effective...
    (Haxorus lost 45.9% of its health!)
    The opposing Raikou lost some of its HP!

    The sandstorm is raging.
    The opposing Raikou is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    Haxorus is buffeted by the sandstorm!

    Turn 4

    The opposing Raikou used Thunderbolt!
    It's not very effective...
    (Haxorus lost 35.7% of its health!)
    The opposing Raikou lost some of its HP!

    Haxorus fainted!

    The sandstorm is raging.
    The opposing Raikou is buffeted by the sandstorm!

    Go! Alakazam!
    Pointed stones dug into Alakazam!

    Turn 5

    Alakazam used Psychic!
    (The opposing Raikou lost 61% of its health!)

    The opposing Raikou used Thunderbolt!
    (Alakazam lost 82.5% of its health!)
    The opposing Raikou lost some of its HP!

    The opposing Raikou fainted!

    The sandstorm subsided.

    romhillfr sent out Suicune!
    The opposing Suicune was poisoned!
    [The opposing Suicune's Pressure]
    The opposing Suicune is exerting its pressure!

    Turn 6
    Suicune (ignoring abilities):
    Weaknesses: Electric, Grass
    Resistances: Fire, Ice, Steel, Water
    Immunities: None

    Alakazam, come back!
    Go! Infernape!
    Pointed stones dug into Infernape!

    The opposing Suicune used Scald!
    It's super effective!
    (Infernape lost 74.4% of its health!)

    The opposing Suicune was hurt by poison!

    Turn 7

    Infernape used Grass Knot!
    It's super effective!
    (The opposing Suicune lost 44% of its health!)
    Infernape lost some of its HP!

    The opposing Suicune used Scald!
    It's super effective!
    (Infernape lost 3.4% of its health!)

    Infernape fainted!

    The opposing Suicune restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The opposing Suicune was hurt by poison!

    Go! Lucario!
    Pointed stones dug into Lucario!

    Turn 8

    Lucario used Close Combat!
    (The opposing Suicune lost 38% of its health!)
    Lucario's Defense fell!
    Lucario's Sp. Def fell!

    The opposing Suicune fainted!

    romhillfr sent out Charizard!

    Turn 9
    ☆romhillfr: vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
    ☆Arctic Erebus: lol

    The opposing Charizard's Charizardite X is reacting to the Key Stone!
    The opposing Charizard has Mega Evolved into Mega Charizard!
    Lucario surrounded itself with its Z-Power!

    Lucario used All-Out Pummeling!
    (The opposing Charizard lost 97% of its health!)

    The opposing Charizard used Earthquake!
    It's super effective!
    (Lucario lost 97.2% of its health!)

    Lucario fainted!
    ☆Arctic Erebus: how long did you spend making that team

    Go! Alakazam!
    Pointed stones dug into Alakazam!

    Alakazam fainted!

    Go! Toxapex!
    Pointed stones dug into Toxapex!

    Turn 10

    Toxapex used Baneful Bunker!
    Toxapex protected itself!

    The opposing Charizard used Dragon Claw!
    Toxapex protected itself!
    The opposing Charizard was poisoned!

    Toxapex restored a little HP using its Black Sludge!
    The opposing Charizard was hurt by poison!

    The opposing Charizard fainted!

    romhillfr sent out Serperior!
    The opposing Serperior was poisoned!

    Turn 11

    Toxapex, come back!
    Go! Blissey!
    Pointed stones dug into Blissey!

    The opposing Serperior used Energy Ball!
    (Blissey lost 11.8% of its health!)

    Blissey restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The opposing Serperior was hurt by poison!

    Turn 12

    romhillfr withdrew Serperior!
    romhillfr sent out Tyranitar!
    The opposing Tyranitar was poisoned!
    [The opposing Tyranitar's Sand Stream]
    A sandstorm kicked up!

    Blissey used Seismic Toss!
    (The opposing Tyranitar lost 29% of its health!)

    The sandstorm is raging.
    Blissey is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    Blissey restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The opposing Tyranitar was hurt by poison!

    Turn 13

    The opposing Tyranitar is tightening its focus!

    Blissey used Protect!
    Blissey protected itself!

    The opposing Tyranitar used Focus Punch!
    Blissey protected itself!

    The sandstorm is raging.
    Blissey is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    Blissey restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The opposing Tyranitar was hurt by poison!

    Turn 14

    The opposing Tyranitar used Earthquake!
    (Blissey lost 25.2% of its health!)

    Blissey used Seismic Toss!
    (The opposing Tyranitar lost 30% of its health!)

    The sandstorm is raging.
    Blissey is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    Blissey restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The opposing Tyranitar was hurt by poison!

    Turn 15

    The opposing Tyranitar used Earthquake!
    (Blissey lost 26.9% of its health!)

    Blissey used Wish!

    The sandstorm is raging.
    Blissey is buffeted by the sandstorm!
    Blissey restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
    The opposing Tyranitar was hurt by poison!

    The opposing Tyranitar fainted!

    romhillfr sent out Gengar!
    The poison spikes disappeared from the ground around the opposing team!

    Turn 16

    Blissey used Protect!
    Blissey protected itself!

    The opposing Gengar used Shadow Ball!
    Blissey protected itself!

    The sandstorm subsided.
    Blissey's wish came true!
    Blissey restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Turn 17

    Blissey, come back!
    Go! Toxapex!
    Pointed stones dug into Toxapex!

    The opposing Gengar used Shadow Ball!
    (Toxapex lost 24.0% of its health!)

    Toxapex restored a little HP using its Black Sludge!

    Turn 18

    Toxapex used Baneful Bunker!
    Toxapex protected itself!

    The opposing Gengar used Psychic!
    Toxapex protected itself!

    Toxapex restored a little HP using its Black Sludge!

    Turn 19

    Toxapex, come back!
    Go! Blissey!
    Pointed stones dug into Blissey!

    The opposing Gengar used Psychic!
    (Blissey lost 9.2% of its health!)

    Blissey restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Turn 20

    The opposing Gengar used Psychic!
    (Blissey lost 10.1% of its health!)

    Blissey used Seismic Toss!
    It doesn't affect the opposing Gengar...

    Blissey restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Turn 21

    Blissey used Protect!
    Blissey protected itself!

    The opposing Gengar used Psychic!
    Blissey protected itself!

    Blissey restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Turn 22
    ☆Arctic Erebus: lol

    The opposing Gengar used Shadow Ball!
    It doesn't affect Blissey...

    Blissey used Toxic!
    It doesn't affect the opposing Gengar...

    Blissey restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

    Turn 23
    ☆romhillfr: no fun in is game
    Battle timer is ON: inactive players will automatically lose when time's up. (requested by Arctic Erebus)

    The opposing Gengar used Knock Off!
    (Blissey lost 11.6% of its health!)
    The opposing Gengar knocked off Blissey's Leftovers!

    Blissey used Seismic Toss!
    It doesn't affect the opposing Gengar...

    Turn 24

    The opposing Gengar used Shadow Ball!
    It doesn't affect Blissey...

    Blissey used Wish!

    Turn 25

    Blissey used Protect!
    Blissey protected itself!

    The opposing Gengar used Psychic!
    Blissey protected itself!

    Blissey's wish came true!

    Turn 26

    The opposing Gengar used Psychic!
    A critical hit!
    (Blissey lost 15.3% of its health!)

    Blissey used Seismic Toss!
    It doesn't affect the opposing Gengar...

    Turn 27

    Blissey used Protect!
    Blissey protected itself!

    The opposing Gengar used Psychic!
    Blissey protected itself!

    Turn 28

    The opposing Gengar used Psychic!
    A critical hit!
    (Blissey lost 13.3% of its health!)

    Blissey used Seismic Toss!
    It doesn't affect the opposing Gengar...

    Turn 29

    The opposing Gengar used Psychic!
    (Blissey lost 10.1% of its health!)

    Blissey used Wish!

    Turn 30

    Blissey used Protect!
    Blissey protected itself!

    The opposing Gengar used Psychic!
    Blissey protected itself!

    Blissey's wish came true!

    Turn 31

    romhillfr withdrew Gengar!
    romhillfr sent out Serperior!

    Blissey used Toxic!
    But it failed!

    The opposing Serperior was hurt by poison!

    Turn 32

    The opposing Serperior used Calm Mind!
    The opposing Serperior's Sp. Atk rose!
    The opposing Serperior's Sp. Def rose!

    Blissey used Seismic Toss!
    (The opposing Serperior lost 35% of its health!)

    The opposing Serperior was hurt by poison!

    Turn 33

    The opposing Serperior used Energy Ball!
    A critical hit!
    (Blissey lost 44.1% of its health!)

    Blissey used Seismic Toss!
    (The opposing Serperior lost 29% of its health!)

    The opposing Serperior fainted!

    romhillfr sent out Gengar!

    Turn 34

    The opposing Gengar used Psychic!
    (Blissey lost 9.2% of its health!)

    Blissey used Wish!

    Turn 35

    Blissey used Protect!
    Blissey protected itself!

    The opposing Gengar used Psychic!
    Blissey protected itself!

    Blissey's wish came true!

    Turn 36

    romhillfr forfeited.

    Arctic Erebus won the battle!
    Ladder updating...
    ☆romhillfr left.
    ☆Arctic Erebus: lol
    Arctic Erebus's rating: 1000 → 1049
    (+49 for winning)
    romhillfr's rating: 1075 → 1049
    (-26 for losing)
     
  2. Divine Retribution

    Divine Retribution Master of the freak show

    So, uh, a few things. First of all, instead of copy+pasting an entire battle log Pokemon Online style, Showdown lets you share replays after battles have concluded with the upload and share replay button, like this; https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8randombattle-1039295665

    Also I don't really want to sound elitist or anything but like, if you're going to post replays you should try to get some replays higher up on the ladder. Below 1600s is generally considered the lower ladder and replays from there usually aren't going to show off your team's strengths or highlight its weaknesses, as most opponents in that range aren't going to be highly competent battlers. Your replay seems to be posted from a fresh alt. I can find replays of me sweeping with Castform on a fresh alt, that doesn't really mean the team I was using was any good.

    Second of all, for an OU team you're really not using a lot of OU Pokemon. Were it not for Toxapex and Mega Alakazam I'd assume this team was for UU. The problem with this is that you can use flat out better variants of a lot of Pokemon on your team in OU. There's very little reason to run Haxorus over Garchomp, Gyarados, or even Salamence, there's very little reason to run Infernape over a myriad of other balance breakers who do his job better and don't lose to the Pokemon with the highest usage in the tier, and there's almost no reason at all to use Blissey over Chansey in a Dugtrio/Shadow Tagless metagame.

    The most glaring problem I see with your team is that Scarf Landorus-Therian literally 6-0s you by clicking Earthquake. Even non-Scarf variants outpace most of your team, and you have exactly 0 Ground resists. Losing to the most common Pokemon in the tier is obviously a huge problem, but even beyond Landorus-Therian you also have major problems with pretty much all other Ground-types, along with a nice helping of other sweepers and breakers like Kartana, Mega Mawile, Mega Medicham, and Kyurem-B.

    The next problem is your sets. A lot of them are... less than optimal. Haxorus is the most glaring example. Why are you running Low Kick and Superpower? Why are you not running a STAB? Why run both a Ground move and a Fighting move (well, 2 Fighting moves...) when they get largely redundant coverage on a Pokemon who really can't afford to give up moveslots for redundant coverage? Why Swords Dance over Dragon Dance (or even double Dance)?

    Toxapex should be running Scald over Sludge Wave. Scald and Knock Off are really the only attacking moves Toxapex ever has any business using. Its offensive stats are pathetic, but the secondary effects from those two moves are enough to annoy most switchins alone. I'm also a bit hesitant to ever run Toxapex without Haze, but I don't think that's really your biggest problem here.

    I honestly don't see a way to rework this team into an OU-viable team without basically overhauling the entire thing, so unfortunately that's going to have to be my recommendation; start from scratch. Smogon's OU Viability Rankings thread is an excellent place to gauge the overall effectiveness and commonness of the Pokemon you're going to see in OU, which can help you decide what to use and what to prepare for. Before you build a new team, decide what kind of team you want to build. This team looks like a weird attempt at balance, but half a stall team and half a hyper offense team slapped together a balance does not make. You'd have been better off dropping Toxapex and Blissey and running a full HO team as right now they mostly act as momentum sinks (if something like Mega Medicham or Landorus-Therian gets in against either one, you're picking a Pokemon to sac every time), or reworking your team to actually have a functional defensive core that can switch into more different threats and running a proper balance team, but the former option still leaves your team with a whole host of other problems, and the latter option requires you to rework major portions of your team.
     

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