I guess you could try that, but it probably wouldn't be very effective. You would have to split the ev's and it would be less powerful and less diverse than the standard mewtwo. It would also be easily countered with only four coverage moves.
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I guess you could try that, but it probably wouldn't be very effective. You would have to split the ev's and it would be less powerful and less diverse than the standard mewtwo. It would also be easily countered with only four coverage moves.
Infernape@Life Orb
Nature:Adamant
Ability:Blaze
EV's:252Att/252Spd/4HP
-OverHeat
-Close Combat
-Mach Punch
-U Turn
I use U-Turn for Psychic coverage and use Overheat cause of its 140 power damage, then use Mach Punch and Close Combat for STAB. All I really want is for him to be a Fast Sweeper.
Nature:Adamant
Ability:Blaze
EV's:252Att/252Spd/4HP
-OverHeat
-Close Combat
-Mach Punch
-U Turn
I use U-Turn for Psychic coverage and use Overheat cause of its 140 power damage, then use Mach Punch and Close Combat for STAB. All I really want is for him to be a Fast Sweeper.
Usatoday
Eternal God
Try this set it may be a bit better
Zachmac
Well-Known Member
Actually, from my knowledge, it's usually choice scarf, swords dance, or sub/bulk up.
Seems standard, just use a Naive or Hasty nature instead so it can outrun base 100 pokemon, and others fast ones.
Please explain what EQ is for?? You have something to remove steels (minus heatran) and not really much else will stand up to a plus 1 dragon claw after entry damage. Think about adding x-speed so you don't lose to priority.
It's for heatran, which is about the only thing that walls it with just d-claw and fire punch.
Snorlax@Leftovers
Nature:Adamant
Ability:Thick Fat
EV's:4HP/252Att/252Def
-Focus Blast
-Surf
-Earthquake
-Crunch
Now I don't plan on using him for competitive play yet I kinda just wanna show how he is. So basically I need to know the best moves,EV's,Nature for him. Im wanting him to be the Tank of my team.
Nature:Adamant
Ability:Thick Fat
EV's:4HP/252Att/252Def
-Focus Blast
-Surf
-Earthquake
-Crunch
Now I don't plan on using him for competitive play yet I kinda just wanna show how he is. So basically I need to know the best moves,EV's,Nature for him. Im wanting him to be the Tank of my team.
floatzel98
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For 5th gen, don't ever use special moves on Snorlax, especially with no spa ev's. You need to invest in some HP first before you invest in your defenses. Better off using a curse set or a choice band set if you want to do damage with him.
jstinftw!
hey trainer
I have two splits for my VGC Doubles Trick Room+Hail team, so it'd be awesome if I could get some feedback.
To preface, it's a toss up between a Guts Luxray and Eelektross, and Carracosta and Azumarill.
So, onto the details.
Simba (M)
Luxray@ Flame Orb
Guts
Brave
252 HP/Att/4 Def
- Wild Charge
- Crunch
- Facade
- Fire Fang/Ice Fang
vs.
Zazu (M)
Eelektross @ Flight Gem
Levitate
Brave
252 HP/Att/4 Def
- Wild Charge
- Acrobatics
- Dragon Claw
- Flamethrower
And theennn....
Rafiki (M)
Carracosta @ Water Gem
Sturdy/Solid Rock
Jolly
252 Att/Spd, 4 HP
- Aqua Jet
- Waterfall
- Rock Slide
- Protect
vs.
Zoomi (F)
Azumarill @ Water Gem
Huge Power
Brave
252 HP/Att/4 Def
- Aqua Jet
- Aqua Tail
- Ice Punch
- Brick Break.
Any thoughts? If the whole VGC Doubles part throws you off, you can just stick with Doubles. It's almost the same concept, just a different metagame (i.e. no tiers).
To preface, it's a toss up between a Guts Luxray and Eelektross, and Carracosta and Azumarill.
So, onto the details.
Simba (M)
Luxray@ Flame Orb
Guts
Brave
252 HP/Att/4 Def
- Wild Charge
- Crunch
- Facade
- Fire Fang/Ice Fang
vs.
Zazu (M)
Eelektross @ Flight Gem
Levitate
Brave
252 HP/Att/4 Def
- Wild Charge
- Acrobatics
- Dragon Claw
- Flamethrower
And theennn....
Rafiki (M)
Carracosta @ Water Gem
Sturdy/Solid Rock
Jolly
252 Att/Spd, 4 HP
- Aqua Jet
- Waterfall
- Rock Slide
- Protect
vs.
Zoomi (F)
Azumarill @ Water Gem
Huge Power
Brave
252 HP/Att/4 Def
- Aqua Jet
- Aqua Tail
- Ice Punch
- Brick Break.
Any thoughts? If the whole VGC Doubles part throws you off, you can just stick with Doubles. It's almost the same concept, just a different metagame (i.e. no tiers).
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floatzel98
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I would go Eelektross since better defense for bulkier sets. I would change Dragon claw foe maybe rock slide though, because DC isn't very useful without STAB na RS hits both peeps on the other side. And unless you intend to put some at least some spa ev's in abd change the nature i would go for something else over flamethrower. Protect or Crunch. If you intend to put speed into carracosta use shell smash. other wise change it to 252Hp / 252Attack. I would use carracosta because it's slower in trickroom (if you intend to use it there) and it can get wide guard to help your team out.
Just my 2 cents
Just my 2 cents
Which would be better for a sandstorm team?
Lucario@focus sash
inner focus
252atk/252spd/4def
jolly
moves:
- ice punch/stoneedge
- eq
- brick break/closecombat
- swords dance
VS.
Bisharp@focus sash
defiant
252atk/252def/4hp
adamant
moves:
- aerial ace
- iron head
- metal claw/swordsdance
- faint attack/night slash
Lucario@focus sash
inner focus
252atk/252spd/4def
jolly
moves:
- ice punch/stoneedge
- eq
- brick break/closecombat
- swords dance
VS.
Bisharp@focus sash
defiant
252atk/252def/4hp
adamant
moves:
- aerial ace
- iron head
- metal claw/swordsdance
- faint attack/night slash
floatzel98
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Well Lucario i would say. Go extreme speed over earthquake though. And CC over brick break. And i think you can use a life orb on him.
jstinftw!
hey trainer
I would go Eelektross since better defense for bulkier sets. I would change Dragon claw foe maybe rock slide though, because DC isn't very useful without STAB na RS hits both peeps on the other side. And unless you intend to put some at least some spa ev's in abd change the nature i would go for something else over flamethrower. Protect or Crunch. If you intend to put speed into carracosta use shell smash. other wise change it to 252Hp / 252Attack. I would use carracosta because it's slower in trickroom (if you intend to use it there) and it can get wide guard to help your team out.
Just my 2 cents
Definitely noted. I've been thinking of getting rid of DC anyways, and I guess I've run out of Rock Sliders on my team now that I've made the new changes. Thanks!
Couple things though, Flamethrower is there primarily to take out things like Scizor, Ferrothorn, etc. Metagross too in the unlucky event that Eelektross is the only thing I have
And as for Carra, yeah, sorry. Not Protect, Shell Smash. I forgot the last move and I thought for some reason it was protect. So Carra over Azumarill? Wouldn't Azumarill hit harder with its Huge Power? And I'm not sure, Sturdy or Solid Rock?
floatzel98
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If it's for trick room i would go azumarill then. I would be faster. I would also put waterfall so aqua tail doesn't miss and potentially lose a game for you. If you go for carracosta though, i would go for sturdy so it has a chance to set up. I think everything else is alright.
123fakestreet
Metalopolis King
Lucario like that would be something along the lines of
Lucario @ Choice Scarf / Choice Band
Nature: Jolly / Adamant
Ability: Inner Focus
EVs: 252 Attk / 252 Spe / 4 SpD
Moves:
-Close Combat
-Ice Punch / Extremespeed
-Crunch / Extremespeed
-Thunder Punch / Extremespeed
That's more like a normal 4 attacks set however the most popular set is the SD set, which would more than likely be
Lucario @ Life Orb / lum Berry (Not Advised but on HO it's an option)
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Inner Focus
EVs: 252 Attk / 252 Spe / 4 SpD
Moves:
-Swords Dance
-Close Combat
-Crunch
-Extremespeed
Here is my Garchomp set from my Ubers, that's been raping through the opponets Kyogres and Groudons like a boss with Earthquake and Dual Chop.
Garchomp (M) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Sand Veil
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dual Chop
- Outrage
- Fire Fang
- Earthquake
Standard ScarfChomp set, Dual Chop (yes, Dual Chop) and Earthquake serving as primary STAB moves. Outrage when I'm facing something that's immune to Earthquake and can wall Dual Chop all day long (like Lugia). Fire Fang for Skarmorys, Ferrothorns, Bronzongs and Forretresses. EV spread is standard for a physical Scarf user, Adamant Nature for extra power.
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After some time, Fire Fang wasn't doing that much, so I thought of this set:
Garchomp (M) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Sand Veil
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SAtk / 252 Spd
Lonely Nature (+Atk, -Def)
- Dual Chop
- Outrage
- Fire Blast
- Earthquake
The same set, but the change is in its Fire-move. Instead of Fire Fang now there is Fire Blast, since all the guys I want to hit are more physically defensive than specially (allright, Bronzong has the same stats in Def ans SDef but who the hell ever uses that in Ubers). The EVs are changed from 4 HP to 4 SAtk so it wil hit harder. The Nature can't be Adamant, since I need the SAtk stat. I gave him Lonely, because I'm hit more on the special side.
Garchomp (M) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Sand Veil
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dual Chop
- Outrage
- Fire Fang
- Earthquake
Standard ScarfChomp set, Dual Chop (yes, Dual Chop) and Earthquake serving as primary STAB moves. Outrage when I'm facing something that's immune to Earthquake and can wall Dual Chop all day long (like Lugia). Fire Fang for Skarmorys, Ferrothorns, Bronzongs and Forretresses. EV spread is standard for a physical Scarf user, Adamant Nature for extra power.
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After some time, Fire Fang wasn't doing that much, so I thought of this set:
Garchomp (M) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Sand Veil
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SAtk / 252 Spd
Lonely Nature (+Atk, -Def)
- Dual Chop
- Outrage
- Fire Blast
- Earthquake
The same set, but the change is in its Fire-move. Instead of Fire Fang now there is Fire Blast, since all the guys I want to hit are more physically defensive than specially (allright, Bronzong has the same stats in Def ans SDef but who the hell ever uses that in Ubers). The EVs are changed from 4 HP to 4 SAtk so it wil hit harder. The Nature can't be Adamant, since I need the SAtk stat. I gave him Lonely, because I'm hit more on the special side.
I like the second one. Fire Blast does way more damage to skarm instead of fire fang. I would reccomend Dragon Claw>Dual Chop, because i'm mad about my scarf haxorus losing me battles because of a dual chop miss.
Rotom(W)@Choice Scarf
Nature:Timid
Ability:Levitate
EV's:3HP/255SpecialAtt/252Spd
-Thunder
-Trick
-Hidden Power
-Hydro Pump
The purpose of my Rotom to have Choice Scarf is to use Trick to get rid of it and give it to the other pokemon, locking it into a stat boosting move. Also I will be using him at the Global Trade Center thing in the poke center for battling in Singles. So it will be Flat Rules lvl 50's.
Nature:Timid
Ability:Levitate
EV's:3HP/255SpecialAtt/252Spd
-Thunder
-Trick
-Hidden Power
-Hydro Pump
The purpose of my Rotom to have Choice Scarf is to use Trick to get rid of it and give it to the other pokemon, locking it into a stat boosting move. Also I will be using him at the Global Trade Center thing in the poke center for battling in Singles. So it will be Flat Rules lvl 50's.
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