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moa

Cascade Trainer
what if the final Mijumaru's evo head shell is detachable and possibly used as a weapon/sword/arm shield, will this make it a better pokemon?
 

blade5468

Member
Hey, guys. Remember back when all starters were unquestionably likable and looked like they actually evolved from one another?

Oh, first and second gen, how I miss you D:



When I saw Pokabu I was really hoping he wouldnt turn into some huge boar with a repulsive monstrous face (because there's a large difference between repulsivemonstrous and badass, see Swampert and Charizard for example,) but at this point a huge monstrous ugly boar looks like a BETTER idea.
What is this Magmortar ********? D:


I only found out about the starters after they were confirmed to be fake the first time, and I looked back at it and thought, "Yeah, these are so stupid-looking, surely no one actually thought something like this was real?" and now Serebii is back at it with their little WE HAVE REASON TO BELIEVE THESE ARE RIGHT without actually explaining what the confirmation is or where they got it from. I REALLY want to say they're definitely fake because I like Pokemon too much to think they'd ruin it THIS MUCH, but I just don't know at this point.
 

Suave Squirtle

Well-Known Member
These are sooo fake, I can name at plenty of reasons why they are:

http://www.pokecharms.com/games/images/8/84/BW_anime.png (here is the anime leak for comparison)


Wotter's 2nd Stage:
http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/rumored-mijumaru-evos.jpg
-THE MOUTH, if you look in the anime leak, it's curved like this: "3", in the evolution's art-in-question the mouth was incorrectly made a "<", which is the way Wotter's mouth is designed, also the ears are too big and a bit more pointy.

Smugleaf's 2nd Stage:
http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/rumored-tsutaaja-evos.jpg
-The shading, look on the abdomen, in the anime leak the shading only extends to the feet, while in the artwork being discussed it goes all the way across.
-The darker green near the eye ends in a point that goes downwards in the anime leak, where as in this it curls back, also it gets closer to the lip in the anime leak than it does in the rumored image.
-A WHOLE LINE is missing in it's collar, in the anime leak a "crease" directly in the center of each of the visible neck appendage.

Baycon's 2nd Stage:
http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/rumored-pokabu-evos.jpg
-Nothing I can really point out as false, though the transition from a ball tail to a puffy one doesn't make sense . . . . .
-THE SECOND FINGER ON THE LEFT HAND IS INCORRECTLY COLORED YELLOW


Wotter's 3rd Stage:
http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/rumored-mijumaru-evos.jpg

. . . seriously, do you see ANY relevance between the two designs? At all? All of the past starter 3rd stages were easily traceable to their pre-evolution, this looks nothing like the 2nd stage, and, more importantly doesn't look like a pokemon. I'd say it looks like something from Digimon or even something Square would create, but not Game Freak.

Smugleaf's 3rd Stage
http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/rumored-tsutaaja-evos.jpg
-Color change seems drastic, especially when compared to previous starters.
-No reason to lose arms and legs, in fact it's movepool would be hurt by such disappearances . . . .

Baycon's 3rd Stage
http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/rumored-pokabu-evos.jpg
-Looks NEAR EXACTLY like Rypherior:
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/d/d9/464Rhyperior.png
-Notice how the "elbows", tail, finger amount, toe amount and placement, and the location of the band on the torso are very similar?
-The "thumbs" don't align properly, the one on it's right hand is further back than the one on the left.
-Design on the torso doesn't align properly with the center of it's body
-The "elbows" don't align properly, the one on it's right arm points outward while the one on it's left points inward.

And this:
http://pokejungle.net/2010/09/01/bw-rumors-iv/comment-page-1/#comment-9320

Looks like decent proof that they are fake, notice how these shots are zoomed out and DON'T look photoshopped, besides the error on the 2nd-stage fire-type's claw is more than enough proof.
 
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KingMinun

Dawn/Sinnoh Fan!
:( I've just remembered! Now I can't have a team of Timone and Pumba! WAAAAAAAH! I was looking forward to it too. If only Pokabu stayed on all fours.
 

Pikapink

Member
There is something i don't get that not a lot of people mentioned.
The snake pokemon seems to have some kind of collar. On the left it has this yellow part of the collar that seems to connect to his neck but the right part doesn't seem to connect at all and also seems a bit too long.
The walrus-thing seems to have the same problem with his whiskers. The lower left part is too short compared to the lower right part.
The left upper part also isn't the same as the upper right part.
Anyone knows why that is? It seems odd that official art, even beta art, makes such mistakes.
 
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL.

sorry sorry, but this is my favorite one.
[img139]http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt218/mandyali/pokaevo.jpg[/img139]
the 2nd evolution? W T F is that. haha he's all "I AM STEEEEERUNGO!" go jump in a lake it's so hideous and stupid.

Mijumaru's 2nd evolution is kinda cute, but the last one looks nothing like what it actually is.

and I like Tsutarja's evolutions the best probably, because I hate how it looks at first. The last evolution is kind of gay, but what more can the creators come up with. I mean how much crack must they have smoked over the years?

well, yet another game I'm going to be not evolving my starters, haha, well it depends which one I get. DEFINITELY NOT THE PIG.
 

Lorde

Banned
Hey, guys. Remember back when all starters were unquestionably likable and looked like they actually evolved from one another?
Oh you, you're making it sound like they're all 100% bad when they clearly aren't. The grass snake evolution of Tsutarja is the only one that I have trouble understanding. No, not because it's missing limbs or anything, just because it looks odd. A king snake I think, that's what it's based off of. I just think the a whole "king" theme has been overused as seen in the other Generations so I cannot take it seriously :p
 

Locormus

Can we please get the older, old forum back?
And the final evo does look vicious...
Compared to Minezumi, it looks like a pet puppy with a shell cap... It looks as if it actually smiling.

This means that after five generations, the creators still won't let me have a quadrupedal final form for a Fire starter.
Typhlosion says hi.. It's quadrupedal.. It can just stand up.. Just watch the Legend of Thunder and you'll notice ;)

While I'm not disappointed, I agree, like, I was hoping for Mamoswine-esque Fire Pokemon with a flamemohawk and maybe some tusks, potentially a nose-ring or something. A flame at the end of it's tail. I just hope it's not Fire/Fighting.
That's what we all wanted.. The fact that Serebii already put them in his Black and White pokemon section really disturbs me.. Not even Bulbapedia has yet to put this 'news' on their mainpage, which I'm sure of that they would have..

I think Serebii is being pranked, straight up. I don't care how much it may feel like a slap in the face if they turn out to be true, I'll just not use them..

Edit@4th Kira: LOL! Seaking, Slowking, Snaking?
 
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*Jean Grey*

Night Triumphant
Wotter's final evolution still baffles me, I'm still gonna get in on White (Smugleaf for Black) but it's still so...different, not that I hate it. Is it just me, or do none of the final evos look particularly fast? I mean, in every generation, there's always one particularly fast one (with a speed of 100 or above) and this set looks somehow...slower. I mean, Piglit's and Wotter's final evos don't look like they'd go above 80 speed and Smugleaf's final evo, which seems sleeker, doesn't look like it would surpass the mid-nineties for its Speed stat...
 

Wargle

Well-Known Member
These are sooo fake, I can name at least five reasons why they are:

http://www.pokecharms.com/games/images/8/84/BW_anime.png (here is the anime leak for comparison)


Wotter's 2nd Stage:
http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/rumored-mijumaru-evos.jpg
-THE MOUTH, if you look in the anime leak, it's curved like this: "3", in the evolution's art in question the mouth was incorrectly made a "<", which is the way Wotter's mouth is designed, the ears are also too big and a bit more pointy.

Smugleaf's 2nd Stage:
http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/rumored-tsutaaja-evos.jpg
-The shading, look on the abdomen, in the anime leak the shading only extends to the feet, while in the artwork being discussed it goes all the way across.
-The darker green near the eye ends in a point that goes downwards in the anime leak, where as in this it curls back, also it gets closer to the lip in the anime leak than it does in the rumored image.
-A WHOLE LINE is missing in it's collar, in the anime leak a "crease" directly in the center of each of the visible neck appendage.

Baycon's 2nd Stage:
http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/rumored-pokabu-evos.jpg
-Nothing I can really point out as false, though the transition from a ball tail to a puffy one doesn't make sense . . . . .
-THE SECOND FINGER ON THE RIGHT HAND IS INCORRECTLY COLORED YELLOW


Wotter's 3rd Stage:
http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/rumored-mijumaru-evos.jpg

. . . seriously, do you see ANY relevance between the two designs? At all? All of the past starter 3rd stages were easily traceable to their pre-evolution, this looks nothing like the 2nd stage, and, more importantly doesn't look like a pokemon. I'd say it looks like something from Digimon or even something Square would create, but not Game Freak.

Smugleaf's 3rd Stage
http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/rumored-tsutaaja-evos.jpg
-Color change seems drastic, especially when compared to previous starters.
-No reason to lose arms and legs, in fact it's movepool would be hurt by such disappearances . . . .

Baycon's 3rd Stage
http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/rumored-pokabu-evos.jpg
-Looks NEAR EXACTLY like Rypherior:
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/d/d9/464Rhyperior.png
-Notice how the "elbows", tail, finger amount, toe amount and placement, and the location of the band on the torso are very similar?
-The "thumbs" don't align properly, the one on it's right hand is further back than the one on the left.
-Design on the torso doesn't align properly with the center of it's body
-The "elbows" don't align properly, the one on it's right arm points outward while the one on it's left points inward.

And this:
http://pokejungle.net/2010/09/01/bw-rumors-iv/comment-page-1/#comment-9320

Looks like decent proof that they are fake, notice how these shots are zoomed out and DON'T look photoshopped, besides the error on the 2nd-stage fire-type's claw is more than enough proof.
Damm we are on the same page, they are fake Mijumaru change 3stage are too drastic i want the samurai otter.
 

Snegy

Doctor WHO?
Of course I hope they're fake, but it doesn't seem to be. Actually, the design of Pokabu's evolutions is totally something you'd expect from GameFreak. Go figure...

And about the monkey trio thing. Geez. I don't even know what to think! Yanappu is already weird itself and it's not very original with that thing on its head. Now we'll have to deal with THREE freaky monkeys? Sorry, that's just too much.

Bad day for the 5th generation!
 

kalishnakov

New Member
I refuse to accept these, monstrosities.
1. The tsu evo, does not even share anything with its prevos. Where are the leaf spines, the tail ending in a leaf, and the color?
2. Pokabu's evos are too ridiculous to be real. The evos dont have that thing of yellow on their heads, and what ever happened to the red ball on the end of the tail? It just left, gamefreak usually expands in these little details in the starter when they evolve, but here its not present. Also, where is the fire on the stage 1 evo? Where is it? Thre is no representation of fire on it, major red flag there. Every single fire starter and its evolutions has either had fire coming off of it, or had an aesthetic design representing fire. The first stage evo does not show this, Pokabu had the little yellow marking on its forehead, which looks like a flame from a zippo lighter.
3. Miju's final evo is ridiculous, im not even going to say anything, because I think everyone can figure out why I dont think its real.
Until these are confirmed by Gamefreak, and Gamefreak only, will I believe these are real.
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Ampharos13

Active Member
These are sooo fake, I can name at plenty of reasons why they are:

http://www.pokecharms.com/games/images/8/84/BW_anime.png (here is the anime leak for comparison)


Wotter's 2nd Stage:
http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/rumored-mijumaru-evos.jpg
-THE MOUTH, if you look in the anime leak, it's curved like this: "3", in the evolution's art-in-question the mouth was incorrectly made a "<", which is the way Wotter's mouth is designed, also the ears are too big and a bit more pointy.

Smugleaf's 2nd Stage:
http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/rumored-tsutaaja-evos.jpg
-The shading, look on the abdomen, in the anime leak the shading only extends to the feet, while in the artwork being discussed it goes all the way across.
-The darker green near the eye ends in a point that goes downwards in the anime leak, where as in this it curls back, also it gets closer to the lip in the anime leak than it does in the rumored image.
-A WHOLE LINE is missing in it's collar, in the anime leak a "crease" directly in the center of each of the visible neck appendage.

Baycon's 2nd Stage:
http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/rumored-pokabu-evos.jpg
-Nothing I can really point out as false, though the transition from a ball tail to a puffy one doesn't make sense . . . . .
-THE SECOND FINGER ON THE RIGHT HAND IS INCORRECTLY COLORED YELLOW


Wotter's 3rd Stage:
http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/rumored-mijumaru-evos.jpg

. . . seriously, do you see ANY relevance between the two designs? At all? All of the past starter 3rd stages were easily traceable to their pre-evolution, this looks nothing like the 2nd stage, and, more importantly doesn't look like a pokemon. I'd say it looks like something from Digimon or even something Square would create, but not Game Freak.

Smugleaf's 3rd Stage
http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/rumored-tsutaaja-evos.jpg
-Color change seems drastic, especially when compared to previous starters.
-No reason to lose arms and legs, in fact it's movepool would be hurt by such disappearances . . . .

Baycon's 3rd Stage
http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/rumored-pokabu-evos.jpg
-Looks NEAR EXACTLY like Rypherior:
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/d/d9/464Rhyperior.png
-Notice how the "elbows", tail, finger amount, toe amount and placement, and the location of the band on the torso are very similar?
-The "thumbs" don't align properly, the one on it's right hand is further back than the one on the left.
-Design on the torso doesn't align properly with the center of it's body
-The "elbows" don't align properly, the one on it's right arm points outward while the one on it's left points inward.

And this:
http://pokejungle.net/2010/09/01/bw-rumors-iv/comment-page-1/#comment-9320

Looks like decent proof that they are fake, notice how these shots are zoomed out and DON'T look photoshopped, besides the error on the 2nd-stage fire-type's claw is more than enough proof.
THANKYOUTHANKYOUTHANKYOUTHANKYOU!!!!!!!!!!!!
You just made my day.....I hate mijumaru's final more than anything else!!
 

Grei

not the color
These are sooo fake, I can name at plenty of reasons why they are:

http://www.pokecharms.com/games/images/8/84/BW_anime.png (here is the anime leak for comparison)


Wotter's 2nd Stage:
http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/rumored-mijumaru-evos.jpg
-THE MOUTH, if you look in the anime leak, it's curved like this: "3", in the evolution's art-in-question the mouth was incorrectly made a "<", which is the way Wotter's mouth is designed, also the ears are too big and a bit more pointy.

Smugleaf's 2nd Stage:
http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/rumored-tsutaaja-evos.jpg
-The shading, look on the abdomen, in the anime leak the shading only extends to the feet, while in the artwork being discussed it goes all the way across.
-The darker green near the eye ends in a point that goes downwards in the anime leak, where as in this it curls back, also it gets closer to the lip in the anime leak than it does in the rumored image.
-A WHOLE LINE is missing in it's collar, in the anime leak a "crease" directly in the center of each of the visible neck appendage.

Baycon's 2nd Stage:
http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/rumored-pokabu-evos.jpg
-Nothing I can really point out as false, though the transition from a ball tail to a puffy one doesn't make sense . . . . .
-THE SECOND FINGER ON THE RIGHT HAND IS INCORRECTLY COLORED YELLOW


Wotter's 3rd Stage:
http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/rumored-mijumaru-evos.jpg

. . . seriously, do you see ANY relevance between the two designs? At all? All of the past starter 3rd stages were easily traceable to their pre-evolution, this looks nothing like the 2nd stage, and, more importantly doesn't look like a pokemon. I'd say it looks like something from Digimon or even something Square would create, but not Game Freak.

Smugleaf's 3rd Stage
http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/rumored-tsutaaja-evos.jpg
-Color change seems drastic, especially when compared to previous starters.
-No reason to lose arms and legs, in fact it's movepool would be hurt by such disappearances . . . .

Baycon's 3rd Stage
http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/rumored-pokabu-evos.jpg
-Looks NEAR EXACTLY like Rypherior:
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/d/d9/464Rhyperior.png
-Notice how the "elbows", tail, finger amount, toe amount and placement, and the location of the band on the torso are very similar?
-The "thumbs" don't align properly, the one on it's right hand is further back than the one on the left.
-Design on the torso doesn't align properly with the center of it's body
-The "elbows" don't align properly, the one on it's right arm points outward while the one on it's left points inward.

And this:
http://pokejungle.net/2010/09/01/bw-rumors-iv/comment-page-1/#comment-9320

Looks like decent proof that they are fake, notice how these shots are zoomed out and DON'T look photoshopped, besides the error on the 2nd-stage fire-type's claw is more than enough proof.
While some of this can be discounted by "Starter evolutions have looked different from their original forms in the past", I'm glad you pointed out these errors (specifically the ones in bold). I really, really doubt Sugimori would make mistakes like these.

Despite my signature, I'm beginning to warm to these evolutions. However, I don't think I'll allow myself to believe them, not until it's confirmed at the release of the games. I will remain skeptical until that point in time (because frankly I'm not putting a huge amount of stock into Pokexperto, it's very possible that someone is lying or is mistaken).
 

J-W

Well-Known Member
Uhh the monkey trio?

3 entries in the Pokedex filled up of things that will practically be the same. At least it explains the three people in the gym...
 

Lorde

Banned
Edit@4th Kira: LOL! Seaking, Slowking, Snaking?
You mean Slaking right? I don't know if it's just the English names that incorporate "king" but I know that Slowking and Empoleon for sure are based on kings of sorts and that's all cool but it needs to stop. Tsutarja's final evolution would have been great were it not for the fact that it looks more arrogant than ever before. People like it though, why is that? Is vanity the new black?
 

evandeck

Well-Known Member
These are sooo fake, I can name at plenty of reasons why they are:

http://www.pokecharms.com/games/images/8/84/BW_anime.png (here is the anime leak for comparison)


Wotter's 2nd Stage:
http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/rumored-mijumaru-evos.jpg
-THE MOUTH, if you look in the anime leak, it's curved like this: "3", in the evolution's art-in-question the mouth was incorrectly made a "<", which is the way Wotter's mouth is designed, also the ears are too big and a bit more pointy.

Smugleaf's 2nd Stage:
http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/rumored-tsutaaja-evos.jpg
-The shading, look on the abdomen, in the anime leak the shading only extends to the feet, while in the artwork being discussed it goes all the way across.
-The darker green near the eye ends in a point that goes downwards in the anime leak, where as in this it curls back, also it gets closer to the lip in the anime leak than it does in the rumored image.
-A WHOLE LINE is missing in it's collar, in the anime leak a "crease" directly in the center of each of the visible neck appendage.

Baycon's 2nd Stage:
http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/rumored-pokabu-evos.jpg
-Nothing I can really point out as false, though the transition from a ball tail to a puffy one doesn't make sense . . . . .
-THE SECOND FINGER ON THE LEFT HAND IS INCORRECTLY COLORED YELLOW


Wotter's 3rd Stage:
http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/rumored-mijumaru-evos.jpg

. . . seriously, do you see ANY relevance between the two designs? At all? All of the past starter 3rd stages were easily traceable to their pre-evolution, this looks nothing like the 2nd stage, and, more importantly doesn't look like a pokemon. I'd say it looks like something from Digimon or even something Square would create, but not Game Freak.

Smugleaf's 3rd Stage
http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/rumored-tsutaaja-evos.jpg
-Color change seems drastic, especially when compared to previous starters.
-No reason to lose arms and legs, in fact it's movepool would be hurt by such disappearances . . . .

Baycon's 3rd Stage
http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/rumored-pokabu-evos.jpg
-Looks NEAR EXACTLY like Rypherior:
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/d/d9/464Rhyperior.png
-Notice how the "elbows", tail, finger amount, toe amount and placement, and the location of the band on the torso are very similar?
-The "thumbs" don't align properly, the one on it's right hand is further back than the one on the left.
-Design on the torso doesn't align properly with the center of it's body
-The "elbows" don't align properly, the one on it's right arm points outward while the one on it's left points inward.

And this:
http://pokejungle.net/2010/09/01/bw-rumors-iv/comment-page-1/#comment-9320

Looks like decent proof that they are fake, notice how these shots are zoomed out and DON'T look photoshopped, besides the error on the 2nd-stage fire-type's claw is more than enough proof.
Didn't the new pokemon page say "This is not the final artwork"? when they were revealed in the concept art?
 

Thriller

Its almost time
Buhu, waaaaaah, thees r sooooo fake! I'm not evolving my tsujarta! grass evolution looks like milotic, fire/fighting again!? Thees evolutions suck!

Good GOD is there anything kids don't complain about anymore?

Anyway, when they were originally debunked, I decided to figure they were fake myself, but I've known how Serebii thinks for 6 years, and if he really believed these weren't authentic, he wouldn't have put them back on.

And I still guarantee if they become confirmed, everyone will fall in love with them, like the suckers for Pokemon they are.
 

Elxar

Well-Known Member
The evolution line of the starter is not what I expected but if they were true I would not be surprised.

Dento might be a member of a Gym leader Trio (or maybe he has 2 underlings) with 3 monkeys and he uses the Grass one while the other two uses the Fire and Water Type.
 

Ash-kid

Ash-kid
These are sooo fake, I can name at plenty of reasons why they are:

http://www.pokecharms.com/games/images/8/84/BW_anime.png (here is the anime leak for comparison)


Wotter's 2nd Stage:
http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/rumored-mijumaru-evos.jpg
-THE MOUTH, if you look in the anime leak, it's curved like this: "3", in the evolution's art-in-question the mouth was incorrectly made a "<", which is the way Wotter's mouth is designed, also the ears are too big and a bit more pointy.

Smugleaf's 2nd Stage:
http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/rumored-tsutaaja-evos.jpg
-The shading, look on the abdomen, in the anime leak the shading only extends to the feet, while in the artwork being discussed it goes all the way across.
-The darker green near the eye ends in a point that goes downwards in the anime leak, where as in this it curls back, also it gets closer to the lip in the anime leak than it does in the rumored image.
-A WHOLE LINE is missing in it's collar, in the anime leak a "crease" directly in the center of each of the visible neck appendage.

Baycon's 2nd Stage:
http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/rumored-pokabu-evos.jpg
-Nothing I can really point out as false, though the transition from a ball tail to a puffy one doesn't make sense . . . . .
-THE SECOND FINGER ON THE LEFT HAND IS INCORRECTLY COLORED YELLOW


Wotter's 3rd Stage:
http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/rumored-mijumaru-evos.jpg

. . . seriously, do you see ANY relevance between the two designs? At all? All of the past starter 3rd stages were easily traceable to their pre-evolution, this looks nothing like the 2nd stage, and, more importantly doesn't look like a pokemon. I'd say it looks like something from Digimon or even something Square would create, but not Game Freak.

Smugleaf's 3rd Stage
http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/rumored-tsutaaja-evos.jpg
-Color change seems drastic, especially when compared to previous starters.
-No reason to lose arms and legs, in fact it's movepool would be hurt by such disappearances . . . .

Baycon's 3rd Stage
http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/rumored-pokabu-evos.jpg
-Looks NEAR EXACTLY like Rypherior:
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/d/d9/464Rhyperior.png
-Notice how the "elbows", tail, finger amount, toe amount and placement, and the location of the band on the torso are very similar?
-The "thumbs" don't align properly, the one on it's right hand is further back than the one on the left.
-Design on the torso doesn't align properly with the center of it's body
-The "elbows" don't align properly, the one on it's right arm points outward while the one on it's left points inward.

And this:
http://pokejungle.net/2010/09/01/bw-rumors-iv/comment-page-1/#comment-9320

Looks like decent proof that they are fake, notice how these shots are zoomed out and DON'T look photoshopped, besides the error on the 2nd-stage fire-type's claw is more than enough proof.
I think that you are wrong with the comparison between the anime leaks from start of July and these pictures. You don't remember that Koromori's anime leak was awful, and so different from the real picture of it?
 
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