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People think Lucario is a jackal because it has a narrow snout and the dreadlocks make people think of egyptian headdress. I actually believe Lucario is a stylised wolf, which from a japanese design perspective would make much more sense due to the fact that wolves are often portrayed as fighters or warriors, especially in kemono (a style of anthropomorphism popular in the anime community, but dates back to much earlier periods in art and design)
The 'headdress' everyone seems to think is egyptian actually resembles the tied-off ends of a blindfold that hang back behind a person's head after the blindfold has been tied on, this also accounts for the black stripe across Lucario's eyes.
Does Lucario have any egyptian markings on him? There's also nothing anubis-like about his colouring. Anubis had nothing to do with 'aura' or fighting spirit either. I think this perception of Lucario as Anubis is something that westerners identify with, since many people don't get the real inspiration behind his design coming from martial arts. I admit I didn't know that boxing originated in Egypt, but I don't think that's the basis of his design.
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Lunafreya Nox Fleuret
Don't look here.
Not everything you say is true. How about we just wait and find out heh?
Precisely.
We can't be sure it's a basic, 1st Stage, 2nd Stage, or Baby form yet. We can guess at which one it is but that doesn't make our guesses true.
It'd only be the "final form" because, as a 4-legged spider, it has resemblance to Ariados, which is already a 1st-Stage. Unless it's a Spinarak split-evo, that'd make it the fully-evolved form of Spinarak, after Ariados.
I personally think Ariados and Denchura related, but I wouldn't be surprised or upset if they weren't.
Ryanide, it's universally accepted that Lucario has the characteristics of a jackal. Boxing is Egyptian in roots. Lucario has some sort of connection with Egypt. Nobody is saying it doesn't gain characteristics from Japanese martial arts. We're just saying there's some Egypt thrown in there.
ArceusBlitz
Hydreigon FTW!!!!!!!
Im gonna make my opinions when the new pokemon actually have their Sugimori art released. Its hard to make decisions when three of them are facing the other way and you cant see their faces. Triple battles. WTF? I dont even think theyll have enough room to fit three HP bars on the screen.
Cool_Trainer_Tyrone
Only Train The Best
Hence the reson I nicknamed my Lucario Anubis.
After seeing the new video on you tube the "mantis" pokemon looks pretty decent,I have to say it looks more like a lizard or a reptile with armour.
Meganium Ex
Banned
Don't act coy now. You're trying to sidestep the main point. I expected better from you.
It's possible that there may have been some inspiration from the egyptian design, but I find it quite implausible that it can be considered the main focus of Lucario's design. People always say "Oh Lucario is meant to be based on Anubis", but this is based only on appearance from a western-viewed perspective. The actual elements of Lucario's design (Chi power, martial arts, fighting spirit) has nothing to do with Anubis or Egypt.
And also, Anubis/Anpu is traditionally black all over with gold and blue jewellery or a white kilt. Seth is another jackal-like god who resembles anubis, but has white fur. These Egyptian jackal gods also have distinctive eye markings and other things not featured in Lucario's design.
So don't pretend like you don't know how Anubis is meant to be coloured solely for the sake of argument, because everybody and their dog knows about Anubis's colour code.
Lunafreya Nox Fleuret
Don't look here.
Rock fire for the unconfirmed pokenmon in the middle anyone?
flyboy1308
Coming Ta Town
Your first mistake. I definitely see your points, and I'm sure that the foundation of Lucario's initial design was the form of martial arts to which you referred, but without talking to whomever designed it, you can't prove that Anubis didn't influence it in any way.
As for the moles, I'd be thoroughly surprised if they weren't primarily ground-type. A secondary type would probably be steel because of the various bits of metal glued to the sprite.
Because it has red rocks? While we're at it can Feraligatr be fire, too?
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Cool_Trainer_Tyrone
Only Train The Best
Im gunna go ghost/water for the one on the left,rock or steel mixed for the middle and ,possible dark for the last one, for the record just thought that one of the rights head sort of looked like miltank,just my opinon.
BCVM22
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Which is all I'm saying - that there's some Anubis mixed into Lucario's breed. I never at all disputed that you were right about the eastern elements you say are incorporated into the design.
To be fair, there's none of that in the visual aspect of Lucario; if you knew nothing about Lucario and saw the design, would your first thought realy be "chi power" or "aura"? The fighting aspects, maybe.
Wait a second. Black, blue and gold and your argument is that there's zero Anubis resemblance?
To reiterate, there's nothing at all implausible about anything you've said. The only case I'm making is that Lucario has Egyptian elements to it.
Why would a mole, a Pokemon that digs into the ground not be a Ground type?
And yes, it has been mentioned before. Almost everyone who has said anything agrees that the first evolution is probably Ground type, and the second is Ground/Steel.
Why would something that digs into the ground be weak against ground? Makes no sense. The types you propose are impossible.
: | Really.
Dark/Steel would be terrific. A combo I've been waiting to see since 2nd Gen.
I didn't get much time to further comment but I just wanted to say I LOVE that Evomole.
It reminds me of this (and that's a good thing): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ouc5pqJr9C0
It reminds me of this (and that's a good thing): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ouc5pqJr9C0
I thought about that also... however moles are naturally nocturnal creatures, and since the mole we have already is ground and we already have a dark/ground type in Meguroko- I came to the conclusion they are going for the more traditional looking and behavior based mole.
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