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SerGoldenhandtheJust
Deluded Dreamer
That just feels more like GF's questionable linear designs and decisions :/
mehmeh1
Not thinking twice!
I can say that for routes and stuff like that, but I mentioned those specifically since they were the ones they actually expanded in USUM (the empty lots being the most egregious since well, they're literally empty lots)
Akashin
Well-Known Member
That's not entirely true. Datamines found placeholders for two more Kalos games (similar Alola placeholders would later be USUM), and Thousand Arrows and Thousand Waves both existed in Gen VI coding, both with animations echoing the Zygarde Cells to some degree. There's also the fact that Zygarde was originally designed as a direct foil to Xerneas and Yveltal, and was later retconned into being a more general guardian of the ecosystem.
That said, it does seem reasonable to believe that the idea for these games was shelved early on. The ideas that later made it into Sun and Moon were very likely original devised for Gen VI, however.
Sham
The Guardian of War
Also too, hate watching is kinda weird. You're tuning into a show to watch how bad it is and them complain on the internet how much it should be cancelled, ruining it for everyone else because you're watching something you don't like.
It kind of reminds you of those people who kept watching Riverdale and then complaining how bad it got season after season and hoping it stopped airing
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Opinions and ideas do no harm, perce. If there are people who see or consume something, they think it's bad and they think they express it, they can do it without further ado. Those who like the product can choose to ignore them, but the whole thing about them "ruining" the experience for others is, well, the problem of those who are personally affected by that.
Sham
The Guardian of War
If you don’t like the food coming from inside of a restaurant and how it tastes why do you keep eating there?
It isn’t about having critical opinions exactly but people who purposely watch the anime, hate it and then are begging for it to be cancelled or conclude
Yes hoping a show gets cancelled and stops airing is hoping it’s ruined for the people who do actually watch it because they like it:
Akashin
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That's... not what they meant. There's absolutely nothing wrong with someone disliking something and expressing that dislike. But if you dislike something at its core, have no intention of enjoying it, why are you still watching it?
Watching something because you want to enjoy it, finding that you didn't and saying as much is perfectly fine. But when it gets to the point that you just hate everything about what you're watching, and yet you still watch it... why? Is it because a part of you hopes--vainly--that this time it'll make you feel differently? Is it just so that you know what you're talking about when you start ranting about how much you hated it?
I can't imagine how exhausting it must be, but I guess I can admire the perseverance if nothing else...
Because, it doesn't matter if someone recently liked the pokemon anime or has been following it for years, it seems that when they complain and point out the same problems that it has had for YEARS, they complain because one points it out. It doesn't matter here if you've been consuming anime for a short time or a long time, the same errors are pointed out so it doesn't apply (at all) that "you can stop consuming something you don't like and shut up" if both new and old point out what same
Waiting for it to be canceled wouldn't be screwing it up. That would only be seeing that a bad product can no longer be profitable and that it needs to be reinvented. Moreover, it would be for a good cause that the way anime is made can be restructured and not be so abusive with workers instead of perpetuating such a harmful model.
Sham
The Guardian of War
I’m… prry sure that’s not even how that works. Let’s talk about how you streaming the show on a different platform doesn’t even count towards revenue or profit for the show, so you’re essentially not even a costumer because your viewership doesn’t count on the algorithm.
I’m not saying you shut up about anime just like watch like things you… don’t like lol idk it gives off weirdo energy.
And like what’s your solution to this problem? Instead of reconstructing the work environment just get all of them laid off of work because you’re unhappy with a product you’re not even like contributing towards or?
As the free market does: let it regularize itself. They will be out of a job, but without the cartoonists the companies will appreciate it, they will have more value and they will be able to negotiate better contracts in exchange for their services. Encourage them to follow the same broken system, that's bad.
No, I regret this answer. It was very rude so I corrected. I don't delete it but she left it crossed out for being rude.
Sham
The Guardian of War
But that’s totally why strikes and boycotting contribution to a toxic work place from the workers exists. Not you hoping a show is cancelled without any notice and having people unemployed. And it's not benefiting the workers at all. Protesting and going strikes seems like a way more effective way of getting what you want.
You have every right of critiquing the show... but not sure it's best interacting with something you genuinely don't like and hoping the staff has the consequences of that
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ash&charizardfan
Humans are tools
They are not obliged too but its called ethics, all major franchises in any industry are intune with there customers.
Eevee903
You are awesome!
Lol yeah right.
Animation in general is a crisis, both in the West and in the East. In the West HBO,Netflix ,... projects get canceled and that hard work is never shown to people. That must be the worst feeling ever.
In the East they have a shortage of animators and some productions like SAO movie were delayed due Covid having an influence on the production.
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mehmeh1
Not thinking twice!
Not to mention Hollywood basically treating it as a lower artform (and even moreso for non-american animation), hence stuff like the Disney live action remakes
Eevee903
You are awesome!
Sad right? People watch more anime than movies these days lol. They underestimate the medium.
nuzamaki90
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Uh this isn’t actually true, like at all. 2015 was the year where majority of GameFreak’s main focus was on Gear Project. All the Zygarde stuff in SM was made from scratch in those games, it wasn’t pre-made code. Even after years of data mining there’s no actual proof that any sort of Z game existed at all. The most that ever existed is placeholder data for two potential titles but absolutely nothing beyond that.
In any case, GameFreak’s work schedule has little influence on the anime’s side of production. The anime is in the state it’s in right now due to consequence from the whole industry. People are not willing to be overworked and underpaid while developing 6+ shows at the same time, especially if one of those shows is a weekly.
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I love how people are arguing that everything is rushed and people need a break, when this is exactly what everyone has been saying since XY. We don't need so many new games every year, they need to take their time developing this stuff and by extension producing an anime. The quality is not as good as it used to be.
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