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Containment thread for LEAKS of upcoming episodes (READ THE FIRST POST, IMPORTANT)

Guy100

Well-Known Member
Based on other reactions to the leaks and overall exposition of this final chapter story of Ash and Pikachu, I'm glad pokemania madness of the OS anime will be coming to an end next Friday (March 24th). Last time I've seen folks this riled up over pokemon was during the infamous pokemon trading card game saga in the mid 90s.
 

GohMaster!

Goh Gettem!
Based on other reactions to the leaks and overall exposition of this final chapter story of Ash and Pikachu, I'm glad pokemania madness of the OS anime will be coming to an end next Friday (March 24th). Last time I've seen folks this riled up over pokemon was during the infamous pokemon trading card game saga in the mid 90s.
I mean Pokemon Go was a lot more recent than that
 

Akkipeddi

All set to be a nice guy
I agree with the opinions but how is it insulting is still something I'm not understanding. Being underwhelming and being insulting are two very different things: Heck the Yuyama thing makes it clear it was made with considerations towards Ash's character in mind, it's just they thought the open ending and not giving any climatic arc was the way to go
Are you trying to be intentionally dense here? First of all, open endings themselves aren't a problem since a lot of great anime have them. Gon and Killua had one at the end of HxH, and Gintama's final scene is literally what MPM thinks it's gonna do, have the main protagonists run and say "our journey is going to continue". What makes all these endings work is that it feels satisfying to a long concluded and ardeous journey, something that can't be said for Ash. The first big mistake here was to promote 10 episodes of absolute nothingness as the "beginning of the end" of Ash's journey and have Gary ask that question in the opening trailer as though Ash was going to introspect, while he'll find the answer to that question in 5 mins anyway as we know. If MPM episode 11 was JN137, it wouldn't even have been this awful (still pretty trash but not as bad as it is now). That would've been underwhelming as you put it. MPM is insulting cause it was basically bait to hype the question of "what is the meaning of being a Pokémon Master" while having 10 padded out filler episodes of Ash doing things he's done for 26 years. This series never needed to exist.
 
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SerGoldenhandtheJust

Deluded Dreamer
Are you trying to be intentionally dense here? First of all, open endings themselves aren't a problem since a lot of great anime have them. Gon and Killua had one at the end of HxH, and Gintama's final scene is literally what MPM thinks it's gonna do, have the main protagonists run and say "our journey is going to continue". What makes all these endings work is that it feels satisfying to a long concluded and ardeous journey, something that can't be said for Ash. The first big mistake here was to promote 10 episodes of absolute nothingness as the "beginning of the end" of Ash's journey and have Gary ask that question in the opening trailer as though Ash was going to introspect, while he'll find the answer to that question in 5 mins anyway as we know. If MPM episode 11 was JN137, it wouldn't even have been this awful (still pretty trash but not as bad as it is now). That would've been underwhelming as you put it. MPM is insulting cause it was basically bait to hype the question of "what is the meaning of being a Pokémon Master" while having 10 padded out filler episodes of Ash doing things he's done for 26 years. This series never needed to exist.

(This is the ending of Gintama....feels familiar doesn't it).
I feel you have a tendency to ignore what I actually write coz you literally wrote stuff I've already said and agreed with? Like this is a big old nothing burger reply
I've already said why an open ending isn't the problem it's the way it's been done here which doesn't really provide any closure whatsoever, so idk why your comment is parroting what has already been said

My issue was with the dramatic "insult to Ash's character" when MPM has just been pretty much a nothing burger. I mean you guys do you on how you wanna use the term insulting, it just feels disingenious to me and dramatic because it doesn't really change anything for Ash that didn't exist before
 

Durrendal

Well-Known Member
There was no way we were going to get a well written, satisfying conclusion when the next project has already been decided. PM2019, and MPM in particular is rage bait, designed to rile up fans to mine outrage.

Why? So that they can show the next protags, or the model of new protags every season is so much better than 'Ash' or the continuous protag model. They have no incentive to make the ending of Ash' series any good and all the reasons to introduce problems in it that they'll magically solve in the next one.

If the New Pokemon series is any good and comes from this team, then this is the case 100%
 

colomb

Well-Known Member
There was no way we were going to get a well written, satisfying conclusion when the next project has already been decided. PM2019, and MPM in particular is rage bait, designed to rile up fans to mine outrage.
As stated by many people many times on these forums, the creative team doesn't care what we think, they have no reason to. There is no bait.
 

GohMaster!

Goh Gettem!
There was no way we were going to get a well written, satisfying conclusion when the next project has already been decided. PM2019, and MPM in particular is rage bait, designed to rile up fans to mine outrage.

Why? So that they can show the next protags, or the model of new protags every season is so much better than 'Ash' or the continuous protag model. They have no incentive to make the ending of Ash' series any good and all the reasons to introduce problems in it that they'll magically solve in the next one.

If the New Pokemon series is any good and comes from this team, then this is the case 100%
But what about people that didn't rage. and even liked it?
 

Spider-Phoenix

#ChespinGang
But I’m on pikashipping boat

So you are in the winner's side. Must feel great knowing you had the war won right from the start



:p
 

BlueDragonfangirl

Well-Known Member
Isn’t pallet shipping the endgame one
1 Gary and Ash Final Talk
2. Rainbow

But I’m on pikashipping boat cause pika and ash will travel forever go over the rainbow
There’s also Ash x Gary shipping, since he’s in the final, why not?
 

Espeonite

Well-Known Member
Fitting ending given where the anime was heading, hope Ash takes Pidgeot with him on the next journey.

At least we still have fanfiction.
 

bruhidk

LARRY SUPREMACY
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