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Corphish

The Big Al

I just keeping Octo
Corphish is now the only pokemon on Ash's team to not evolve. (Except for Pikachu who has chosen not to evolve and even if he did, they haven't seen a thunder stone since mid Kanto so it's not likely he'll be evolveing any time soon.) Corphish on the other hand could evolve to his final form like the rest of Ash's AG Pokemon (I'm including Donphan in this because he's part of the AG Team).

Considering Corphish is already a brute of Pokemon his evolution wouldn't really ruin his personalty. Also, it would be comedy gold for a scary Pokemon like Crawdaunt to act like Corphish.

I've also heard that if it evolves, Ash would become uber. Wrong. If he has a bunch of evolved Pokemon, they'd just make the battles harder and better. Many trainers have fully evolved Pokemon and aren't uber.

Though Corphish might not evolve (I see the odds at 50/50). Though, I'd really like to see him learn Cruch, especially through training. Ash hasn't spent much time training him and I'd like to see him get some well deserved screen time.
 

Polursine

Leave my posts alone
I doubt it. He's cute and funny, changing that into a giant lobster with DARK characterisitcs will be odd. Especially when it tries to be funny...
 

Lupin

Legendary Pokémon Coordinator
Corphish doesn't need to evolve, he's fine just the way he is.
 

Gravy

Contaminated KFC
I've already explained why I prefer Corphish before. Personally, I find that both his appearence and personallity fit together perfectly. Corphish looks like a cartoon character, with those huge eyes and claws and personally, I'd find a more cartoon-ish pokémon getting into various amusing mishaps to be much more amusing than another monster-esque pokémon doing so.
I'm not saying they can't make Crawdaunt as goofy as Corphish. I'm just saying that it wouldn't work as well.

The only thing Corphish needs right now are a couple of decent moves at his disposal. Every other pokémon Ash has had in his possession during the entire Advanced Generation series has been handed a new technique to toy around with (even Charizard and Snorlax), so it seems rather awkward to not invite Corphish to the party.
 

Eddieursa

Marsh Trainer
Look, dudes. You like or not, Corphish will have to evolve sooner or later!!. The reasons for that are more than enough:

1º) Obviously, Ash's new team is based on the team that Tetsuya had in the Hoenn League. Both of them have a Donphan and a Sceptile. Tetsuya has the "Meowth in boots" in his team which he's the equivalent of Pikachu in Ash's team. And evolving, Crawdaunt would be the equivalent one to Tetsuya's Shiftry for being a Dark Type. (Undoubtedly a Water type would be better than having two Grass types in oneself team).

2º) There are some Pokemon types which Ash hasn't caught yet:
+ Rock (maybe if they had let that Larvitar stayed with Ash)
+ Psychic (Noctowl is seemed but he isn't natural of this type)
+ Ghost (I'm not sure if Haunter counts)
+ Dragon (Charizard is very similar, but neither he's natural of this type).
+ And the newest two types that appeared: Steel and Dark.
If Corphish evolves, Ash would already have at least a partially Pokemon of Dark type. (When Ash was in Johto, I would liked if Ash had caught a Houndour).

3º) Corphish couldn't evolve in Hoenn that was for the bad fame that Crawdaunt acquired for Team Aqua's blame. But now that Team Aqua has been dissolved, there is no problem for Corphish evolving. (In Hoenn, if Corphish has evolved, they could have thought that Ash was member of Team Aqua). Besides, don't forget that recently we met an "sort-of" friendly Crawdaunt in Dragonair's Lake episode.

4º) Finally, when Ash arrives to Battle Tower, he will need some kind of "ace" to face Anabel's Alakazam. A Dark type's Pokemon as Crawdaunt would be perfect for that battle.

Don't you think that they are good reasons?.
 

ChaosMage

Izit cuz I is black?
And before the Battle Tower, a team change/new attack/Oak pokemon is very likely, as all of Ash's team pokemon have had a battle. Crawdaunt could be used alongside an Oak pokemon, hopefully Torkoal or Glalie.
 

MaskedManAbsolkid

Well-Known Member
The Anabel battle isn't good. The team of Anabel's can be changed like Greta's was. Besides, leave Corphish as it is. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
 

Gravy

Contaminated KFC
Eddieursa said:
Don't you think that they are good reasons?.
No. I don't.

Evolving it so Ash has a similar team to Tetsuya (a character who is probably never going to appear again) is a rubbish 'reason', to be blunt. Thats like saying he should get Primeape back, just so he could have a counterpart to Hariyama.

Concerning Ash owning a Dark type pokémon, I don't get why people seem to be so eager for it. We've seen plenty of other Dark types in the show and they're never adressed as anything special, especially those with dual typings. What would make Crawdaunt so special? As for being able to counter psychic types, that argument doesn't hold much ground anyway, because they use other abilites (ie. Mega Punch, Hyper Beam) also. The novelty would wear off pretty quikly I'd imagine, and the Dark element would rarely be addressed. The same would go for a dragon type as a matter of fact. There's nothing that really makes them truely unique.
Rock, Psychic and Ghost on the other hand, is a different story~

Friendly Crawdaunts =/= A possibility of Corphish evolving. Its quite irritating that an evolved form of one of Ash's pokémon appearing in the show is instantly considered as 'foreshadowing'. Headesk irritating.
 
N

nameless

Guest
People who argue about making Ash uber means that they don't like change and are afraid and can't think of a better excuse. In reality, the writers can just give Ash an even stronger opponent to deal with because their the ones that are making the fights.

For Corpfish, it really is 50/50. But again there is no real reason why it shouldn't evolve. Everyone else has, so the question is, why not Corpfish? Pikachu and Bulbasaur are already a given, they've chosen not to evolve, to say otherwise like losing it's characteristics is a little silly.

Crawdaunt may in fact be funnier than Corpfish is, it's up to the writers to decide that and they can alter the apperance a bit to fit them just like they do with Ash's pokemon. You never know unless it's actually done.

What would make Crawdaunt so special? As for being able to counter psychic types, that argument doesn't hold much ground anyway, because they use other abilites (ie. Mega Punch, Hyper Beam) also. The novelty would wear off pretty quikly I'd imagine, and the Dark element would rarely be addressed. The same would go for a dragon type as a matter of fact. There's nothing that really makes them truely unique.
Rock, Psychic and Ghost on the other hand, is a different story~

Apparently you missed the fight between an Alakazam and Umbreon. Being totally immune to an opponent's speciality, especially psychic, would give you an edge in a fight as it forces the opponent to not fight at his full potential.
 

jolteonjak

*swoons for Noland*
Gravy said:
I've already explained why I prefer Corphish before. Personally, I find that both his appearence and personallity fit together perfectly. Corphish looks like a cartoon character, with those huge eyes and claws and personally, I'd find a more cartoon-ish pokémon getting into various amusing mishaps to be much more amusing than another monster-esque pokémon doing so.
I'm not saying they can't make Crawdaunt as goofy as Corphish. I'm just saying that it wouldn't work as well.

The only thing Corphish needs right now are a couple of decent moves at his disposal. Every other pokémon Ash has had in his possession during the entire Advanced Generation series has been handed a new technique to toy around with (even Charizard and Snorlax), so it seems rather awkward to not invite Corphish to the party.


These have to be the best reasons why I don't want Corphish to evolve.

The only other reason I'd add, is that Crawdaunt doesn't make for an agile Pokemon. I see it as a tough one animate.
 

Gravy

Contaminated KFC
Nameless said:
Apparently you missed the fight between an Alakazam and Umbreon. Being totally immune to an opponent's speciality, especially psychic, would give you an edge in a fight as it forces the opponent to not fight at his full potential.

I'd just peg the result of the battle down to Gary being a far superior trainer. Alakazam was, for the most part, still using its psychic abilites during the match. Such as using Teleport to disorientate Umbreon and boosting its speed when using Headbutt. But Umbreon was able to dodge everything that was coming its way, despite the fact that said Alakazam still came across as uber powerful, despite the fact it couldn't use its signature pokémon.

If we had the same situation with a Frontier Brain, the psychic type being used would more than likely present a lot more trouble than one in the possession of a random trainer. Relying on their telekinetic abilites would not be enough, because they'd still have to worry about projectile attacks. And as we've seen before, some pokémon are able to overcome psychic attacks and still be presented as a problem, ie. Swellow breaking free of Metagross' psychic grip using Quick Attack and managing to penetrate its hide

jolteonjak said:
The only other reason I'd add, is that Crawdaunt doesn't make for an agile Pokemon. I see it as a tough one animate.
I disagree. Corphish doesn't exactly look like a speedster either, but they get over that problem by having it (seemingly) fly across the ground.
 

The Big Al

I just keeping Octo
Alright, so far I've seen reasons why people don't WANT Corphish to evolve. However, is there anything that will prevent Cophish from evolving. If anything, he wants something to happen in his life. He's been shafted constantly. If anything, if evolution means he's in the spotlight more, I'd say it's a good move. I just want him to be in better battles more often.

FYI: Corphish isn't agile. He hardens to deflect the attacks.
 

Crystal Clair

Well-Known Member
I've already explained why I prefer Corphish before. Personally, I find that both his appearence and personallity fit together perfectly. Corphish looks like a cartoon character, with those huge eyes and claws and personally, I'd find a more cartoon-ish pokémon getting into various amusing mishaps to be much more amusing than another monster-esque pokémon doing so.
I'm not saying they can't make Crawdaunt as goofy as Corphish. I'm just saying that it wouldn't work as well.
I agree. Besides Corphish is my favorite water Pokemon and my favorite Pokemon in Ash's current party (although Swellow's pretty handsome). Corphish's got teh character.
 

CyberCubed

Yeah, ok!
I'm really indifferent at this point. It'll only be on Ash's team for another few months before its boxed at Oaks anyway (with the rest of his AG team), so it's not like we're going to see it for much longer.

What I'd really like to see is a Kingler/Crawdaunt double battle. Seeing the crab and the lobster battle together would be great, and isn't Crawdaunt around the same size as Kingler? It would be pretty amusing.

I really do love Corphish. It's been one of my favorite Ash Pokemon since he caught it. But I really wouldn't mind an evolution toward the end of this saga, because as I said, it's only going to be dumped at Oaks soon anyway.
 

crawdauntpro

darksidetrainer
CyberCubed said:
I'm really indifferent at this point. It'll only be on Ash's team for another few months before its boxed at Oaks anyway (with the rest of his AG team), so it's not like we're going to see it for much longer.

What I'd really like to see is a Kingler/Crawdaunt double battle. Seeing the crab and the lobster battle together would be great, and isn't Crawdaunt around the same size as Kingler? It would be pretty amusing.

I really do love Corphish. It's been one of my favorite Ash Pokemon since he caught it. But I really wouldn't mind an evolution toward the end of this saga, because as I said, it's only going to be dumped at Oaks soon anyway.

Thats optimism for you, LOL!
 

DEMONCAMERUPT

;ord of pokebattles
people please why not get the writers to keep Corphish as it is and have Ash oh say capture some special shiny Crawduant that way Corphish can remain the cute comical pokemon it is and Ash will still be able to have a Crawduant and Dark type then arguements like in this thread will end and everyone is happy.
 

V Faction

www.faction.com
DEMONCAMERUPT said:
people please why not get the writers to keep Corphish as it is and have Ash oh say capture some special shiny Crawduant that way Corphish can remain the cute comical pokemon it is and Ash will still be able to have a Crawduant and Dark type then arguements like in this thread will end and everyone is happy.
That... has to be the worst idea ever. Congratulations!

ARGH! I'm sick of this debate. I feel bad for Corphish for not receiving any new moves. I don't want him to evolve because of that personality he possesses. I want him to evolve so that hopefully some growth can occur. I want him to stop beating up Pokemon twice his evolutionary stage. I want him to remain agile. I don't want him to be left out. I want, I want, I want!!!!

Damn. Either way, I'm going to be disappointed. Sounds like the same thing is going to happen on the forums. So I probably shouldn't stress and instead give up on picking ANY side.

nameless said:
People who argue about making Ash uber means that they don't like change and are afraid and can't think of a better excuse. In reality, the writers can just give Ash an even stronger opponent to deal with because their the ones that are making the fights.
You sound like bizzarro-Gaiash.

CyberCubed said:
I'm really indifferent at this point.
So you positively do not care one way or the other? I disagree; there is no doubt in my mind that you'd like one outcome to occur (you even mention it in your post). But I understand what your stance is and what you must give up.

TheBigAl said:
FYI: Corphish isn't agile. He hardens to deflect the attacks.
Corphish is so agile, it's insane. He has no problem getting up close to his opponents and smacking their faces in.

Now defensively, I would agree. That's what you seem to indicated with your posts. Corphish is a combo-maker. He uses Harden and maneuverability.
 

Atoyont

Brains for brawn
I like Crawdaunt, but sadly, I don't think Ash's Corphish will evolve.
Though I would like to see some of Ash's old Pokemon- Primeape, Haunter, Pidgeot.
 

Kabuto

little punks!
I like Crawdaunt, but sadly, I don't think Ash's Corphish will evolve.
Though I would like to see some of Ash's old Pokemon- Primeape, Haunter, Pidgeot.

ROFLMAO, Corphish has a 1000x more of a chance then seeing those pokemon ever again.
 
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