Corphish

[Gravy]

Then we have the pathetic argument about Corpfish is strong enough, except people forget when Corpfish got jealous of Grovyle, it tried taking on a Lucidolo, a 2nd stage pokemon, and got it's butt handed to it. Sorry folks it's strong but not THAT strong.

Except for the fact that bout of jealousy lasted for only that single episode and since then Corphish has defeated a plethora of 2nd stage pokémon and fully evolved pokémon that are genrally considered to be rather powerful.

 

[Volt Tackle]

It is only fair that Corphish evolves. Everyone else in Ash's team fully evolved and now it's Corphish's turn. Getting screwed out of evolution is not only unfair, it's stupid.

 

[nameless]

Except for the fact that bout of jealousy lasted for only that single episode and since then Corphish has defeated a plethora of 2nd stage pokémon and fully evolved pokémon that are genrally considered to be rather powerful.

Except I should've noted that Corpfish was only jealous because Grovyle was stealing the spotlight but they reconciled afterwards.

In this case I was arguing against those people who said Corpfish is strong enough but that hasn't been shown, instead the opposite was shown.

Nameless, in Japan dark pokemon are literary called evil pokemon. That is why almost always when we have ever seen a dark pokemon it has done something devious. I am sure that we all thought that Ash was going to get Manyula but I think that now all evidence points to Jessie getting it.

Yes I was aware of that (I played an original translated game before) but that doesn't mean their actually evil evil, like satanic or something.

 

[JazzJazz]

It is only fair that Corphish evolves. Everyone else in Ash's team fully evolved and now it's Corphish's turn. Getting screwed out of evolution is not only unfair, it's stupid.

Pokemon shouldn't evolve simply because others have... if the right circumstances (or plot opportunity) arise we'll see corphish evolve, it just hasn't needed to as yet.

 

[Nidorino99]

Pokemon shouldn't evolve simply because others have... if the right circumstances (or plot opportunity) arise we'll see corphish evolve, it just hasn't needed to as yet.

I say right on. Corphish isn't uber, but it's not weak. The writers make the choice. And not that I wouldn't like to see a dark type in the group....

 

[Sceptile Warrior]

Speaking of corphish what happended to its dig attack why doesn't ash tell it to use that attack anymore. All the other pokemon use their tm moves how come corphish does not.
Pikachu: iron tail
Sceptile: bullet seed
Swellow: aerial ace
Torkoal: overheat
Glalie: ice beam
Donphan: hidden power(well it use to use that attack)

 

[V Faction]

Because the Dig attack isn't 100% confirmed. It might have dug in the sand at the beginning of its life, but it was never explicitly stated to be using Dig.

 

[Aptenodytes]

I think Corphish should evolve so it can get sacked at Oak's and he can get his Kingler back ....... meh I think im hoping a little to hard there XD

 

[DANdotW]

I don't really see the point of either him evolving or not evolving. He's fine either way, all that is needed is that the little crab can learn at least one new attack to make him spangly and new. Something simple would still work, but at the moment, whenever any attacks of his are used, they are already totally boring and stale.

Hunter

 

[Gaiash]

It is only fair that Corphish evolves. Everyone else in Ash's team fully evolved and now it's Corphish's turn. Getting screwed out of evolution is not only unfair, it's stupid.

Only fair?! I'm sorry but that is pure rubbish! If anything the fact Ash has 3 Pokemon at their final evolution stage means Corphish should STAY as it is. Ash has never had a team of just final stage Pokemon and Pikachu even in the league matches hes used non evolved Pokemon.

And this Dark type talk, bah! Ash has no need for a dark type! A water type is good enough, Corphish is a much better Pokemon for Ash!

Its not like when Snorunt evolved because he only won against Team Rocket, I wish that he didn't evolve but saddly it did BUT thats beside the point. My point is that Corphish, unlike Snorunt, does not lose to every non TR apponent in fact he has an equal amount of wins and loses. Why is that a reason for him not to evolve when Grovyle was the same? Well the thing about Grovyle is now its a Sceptile have a look at Ashs grass Pokemon that are in and have been in his team

Bulbasaur
Beyleaf
Sceptile

Theres a chain. 1st stage Kanto, 2nd stage Johto, 3rd stage Houen. Now look at the Water types except from Kingler who is and always was a back up Pokemon

Squirtle
Totodile
Corphish

Since the starter chain is broken lets look at the new one. NONE of Ashs TEAM water types evolved. Kingler is NOT a TEAM Pokemon and never was, when Ash caught Krabby it went to Oaks and Ash uses it as a back up but its NEVER been in his team for more than 2 episodes in a row EXCEPT for the Wirl Cup (which was a tournement anyway).

Chains arn't the only reason, theres also the fact if it evolves Ash will be TOO powerful, especialy once Sceptile gets its moves back. If Corpish evolves I see it or Sceptile leaving, heck it might be both.

There are LOADS of other reasons but I'm sure others have explained them

 

[Thriller]

El oh el.

Only fair?! I'm sorry but that is pure rubbish! If anything the fact Ash has 3 Pokemon at their final evolution stage means Corphish should STAY as it is. Ash has never had a team of just final stage Pokemon and Pikachu even in the league matches hes used non evolved Pokemon

Remember that Poochyena episode? That little Poochyena and every one else saw that it was unfair that it didn't evolve along with the other Poochyena in its pack.

And this Dark type talk, bah! Ash has no need for a dark type! A water type is good enough, Corphish is a much better Pokemon for Ash!

Pray tell why does he not 'need' one? It seems you only don't want him to have one.

Its not like when Snorunt evolved because he only won against Team Rocket, I wish that he didn't evolve but saddly it did BUT thats beside the point.

To be honest, one of the big reasons I was glad Snorunt evolved was because I wanted to see how you'd react to it. I'll bet you were ripping up papers and throwing clothes in an angry rage.

Chains arn't the only reason, theres also the fact if it evolves Ash will be TOO powerful, especialy once Sceptile gets its moves back. If Corpish evolves I see it or Sceptile leaving, heck it might be both.

Ash beeing too powerful is good. Don't you want to see Ash win a damned league? Besides since, to you, Corphish is already "Super Hero Ultra Strong" Ash would be too powerful already. And of course it means it or both will leave. We all know Ash will most likely ditch them off to Oak when going to the next region, thats why he should help it evolve.

 

[CyberCubed]

Ash being "too powerful" doesn't matter. You do realize that when the D/P region starts that Ash is going to capture all little unevolved forms again? He'll have a whole bunch of new little pokemon to train with, and all his "powerhouses" will be eating grass and roaming around aimlessly until Ash uses them again.

Even if he takes a few of his AG team to D/P, they'll only be gradually sent back to make room for new Pokemon anyway.

If you recall, Ash took Bulbasaur, Squirtle, and Charizard with him to Johto. And what happened? Eventually all three of them left the team to make room for new Pokemon.

If Ash takes any of his current AG team with him, they'll only be sent back to Oaks one by one anyway to make room for his D/P team.

 

[Gaiash]

Remember that Poochyena episode? That little Poochyena and every one else saw that it was unfair that it didn't evolve along with the other Poochyena in its pack.

That was a Poochyena who I might like to note was left out in a pack of MIGHTYENA which are its OWN evolved form NOT just random evolved Pokemon!

Pray tell why does he not 'need' one? It seems you only don't want him to have one.

No I just don't want Corphish to evolve

To be honest, one of the big reasons I was glad Snorunt evolved was because I wanted to see how you'd react to it. I'll bet you were ripping up papers and throwing clothes in an angry rage.

Jerk!

Ash beeing too powerful is good. Don't you want to see Ash win a damned league? Besides since, to you, Corphish is already "Super Hero Ultra Strong" Ash would be too powerful already. And of course it means it or both will leave. We all know Ash will most likely ditch them off to Oak when going to the next region, thats why he should help it evolve.

The word TOO means nothing to you does it? And no I don't want Ash to win a league until the show ends because in case you didn't know, winning the league would fulfil his dream which happens AT THE END of shows! I like the idea of Ash having a strong team thats why I didn't get annoyed at Sceptile (that and because I like Sceptile) but if he were TOO strong the show would lose its greatness which is that Ash isn't the most powerful trainer but hes still good.

Spiderman isn't perfect, THAT is why his comic is so popular. Same goes for Ash, he can have a strong team but too many final stage Pokemon makes him too powerful!

 

[nameless]

Ash being "too powerful" doesn't matter. You do realize that when the D/P region starts that Ash is going to capture all little unevolved forms again? He'll have a whole bunch of new little pokemon to train with, and all his "powerhouses" will be eating grass and roaming around aimlessly until Ash uses them again.

Even if he takes a few of his AG team to D/P, they'll only be gradually sent back to make room for new Pokemon anyway.

If you recall, Ash took Bulbasaur, Squirtle, and Charizard with him to Johto. And what happened? Eventually all three of them left the team to make room for new Pokemon.

If Ash takes any of his current AG team with him, they'll only be sent back to Oaks one by one anyway to make room for his D/P team.

True though one question to be asked is if Ash is gonna follow the same route with Honen. Just get one starter rather than all 3.

The word TOO means nothing to you does it? And no I don't want Ash to win a league until the show ends because in case you didn't know, winning the league would fulfil his dream which happens AT THE END of shows! I like the idea of Ash having a strong team thats why I didn't get annoyed at Sceptile (that and because I like Sceptile) but if he were TOO strong the show would lose its greatness which is that Ash isn't the most powerful trainer but hes still good.

Ash won the Orange League and what happened after that?

Spiderman isn't perfect, THAT is why his comic is so popular. Same goes for Ash, he can have a strong team but too many final stage Pokemon makes him too powerful!

.........you do know that this is a show right?

The writers can just throw Ash super strong opponents on him. Do you really think Ash would've lasted 2 seconds if he had to deal with the opponents from Johto and Honen with his first team of pokemon?

Even Charizard and Snorlax couldn't do it.

BTW where was it stated that the winners of those leagues are declared pokemon masters? Champions sure but not masters. Only the Elites should be considered that.

 

[Thriller]

That was a Poochyena who I might like to note was left out in a pack of MIGHTYENA which are its OWN evolved form NOT just random evolved Pokemon!

If I was a Pokemon and all my partners evolved before me, I'd sure feel left out.

No I just don't want Corphish to evolve

Well its not your choice is it. Besides how do you know Ash doesn't want it to evolve? Corphish hasn't declared itself in Neverland yet.

The word TOO means nothing to you does it? And no I don't want Ash to win a league until the show ends because in case you didn't know, winning the league would fulfil his dream which happens AT THE END of shows!

Yeah, he'd just quit being a trainer and slack off with Mimey vacuuming his face. He won the Orange League, found that there was a Johto League and went on. Besides, the show has to end at SOME point no matter how much we want to disagree.

Spiderman isn't perfect, THAT is why his comic is so popular. Same goes for Ash, he can have a strong team but too many final stage Pokemon makes him too powerful!

Let him be too powerful (OMG "Too" means nothing to me) like I said, the show has got to end at SOME point.

 

[Gaiash]

Ash won the Orange League and what happened after that?

The Orange League is NOT the same. It is basicly Pokemon Sports, I hardly consider it a league at all. Also Ash only had to battle ONE person after earning his badges, and lets not forget the Orange Islands is NOT from the games, it was made as a filler. Yes characters caught some Pokemon but think about it, if Gold and Silver came out sooner then there would be no Snorlax, Lapras, Tracey or Poliwag and Charizard would start obaying Ash before being released (like Primeape).

.........you do know that this is a show right?

The writers can just throw Ash super strong opponents on him. Do you really think Ash would've lasted 2 seconds if he had to deal with the opponents from Johto and Honen with his first team of pokemon?

Yes but that means Ash has a smaller veraity of Pokemon to battle with a "Hrm, who could win?" question going to viewers minds. But I said this was only ONE example!

BTW where was it stated that the winners of those leagues are declared pokemon masters? Champions sure but not masters. Only the Elites should be considered that.

Ah but what does the Champion go to do after winning? Hrm... To battle the Elites is my guess

 

[The Big Al]

The Orange League is NOT the same. It is basicly Pokemon Sports, I hardly consider it a league at all. Also Ash only had to battle ONE person after earning his badges, and lets not forget the Orange Islands is NOT from the games, it was made as a filler. Yes characters caught some Pokemon but think about it, if Gold and Silver came out sooner then there would be no Snorlax, Lapras, Tracey or Poliwag and Charizard would start obaying Ash before being released (like Primeape).

Even a canon league wouldn't stop Ash's journeys. He'd hear of another league, in another land, end all of his Pokemon sans Pikachu to Oak's and do it all over again. He'd be a champion of a tiny region, not the whole world.

Ah but what does the Champion go to do after winning? Hrm... To battle the Elites is my guess

How about he gets his head handed to him by a trainer from another land and so he goes there in order become as strong? Champion is only a short term title. Someone will challenge you for it.

 

[nameless]

Ah but what does the Champion go to do after winning? Hrm... To battle the Elites is my guess

There you go, you guess but this isn't like the games you know.

When you look at the elites do you seriously think they became elites just because they beat and won leagues? It's common sense that a pokemon master not only is a great trainer but someone with tons of knowledge and experience they gain over the years.

Even a canon league wouldn't stop Ash's journeys. He'd hear of another league, in another land, end all of his Pokemon sans Pikachu to Oak's and do it all over again. He'd be a champion of a tiny region, not the whole world.

Big Al got the point. As long as the games come out Ash will, whether he wins or not, will always have a reason to go.

 

[Gaiash]

my reason for worry about Ash being too powerful is simple, theres no evidence to DP coming out any time soon and the Battle Frontier seems to be moving abit quicker than most series. Whats Ash going to do if he returns toi Oaks lab and DP isn't out yet so he can't go to that region.

Also Corphish and its personality are a perfect match, seeing Crawdaunt like that would just be odd.

 

[The Big Al]

my reason for worry about Ash being too powerful is simple, theres no evidence to DP coming out any time soon and the Battle Frontier seems to be moving abit quicker than most series. Whats Ash going to do if he returns toi Oaks lab and DP isn't out yet so he can't go to that region.

How about going back and tying up some loose ends from Kanto coughErikacough.

Also Corphish and its personality are a perfect match, seeing Crawdaunt like that would just be odd.

You act like that would be a bad thing.