Could a Pokemonmaker generated Team pass the Nintendo JAA test?!?

[SecretSquirrel]

Now hypothetically speaking.

Lets say that some little kid generated (using PokemonMaker v2) a really strong Pokemon Team on his/her (lets say) Pokemon Leaf Green cartridge that he/she wanted to use in the JAA pokemon tournaments going on as we speak.

Now, the pokemon werent made with MAX IVs, they only had a maximum of 510 EVs, they had movesets that were true to the pokemon, were all caught at the correct location and at the correct level and any of the pokemon that needed a specific OT name, OT number and Secret ID numbers were correct (therefore looked IDENTICAL to the REAL pokemon - but with IVs and EVs and moves exactly as you would like it to be).

Then these created pokemon are say, traded to a cartridge that has never been used with an AR/GS cheat device, and then traded one last time to POKEMON EMERALD (clean from cheats) to use in the JAA tournament.

The question is, if this team had won the JAA tournament and the cartridge was confiscated for a nintendo official to check for use of cheating devices on the game, do you think it will pass the test?

Give me your views on this

 

[Zera]

If the IVs, EVs, move sets, levels, locations, and OT IDs all check out, i dont see why they wouldn't check out.. hypothetically speaking of course.

 

[corsolakid]

then again, they may have a secret number implanted into pokemon that they didn't tell us about for this specific reason. you never know, there may just be something hidden. then again, maybe not, we'll not know until they bust you for it, or not. good luck tho, i'm entered in the Detroit JAA tournament!

corsolakid ;222;

 

[Zora]

It wouldn't even go into the tournaments. The tournaments check and make sure all DV's are normal, and since not every IV can be flawless. That is why they use Colossuem/XD, for this very reason.

 

[Zera]

I'd go to one of theose JAA tournaments, but unfortunately, my current Emerald version is a flash advance card, since the cartrage i bought as fried in my car. i back up all my games via flash readers, but this is the first time it actually had count on those backups! they probubly wont let me in without having an actual emerald cartrage, would they,

 

[MetalMario]

It depends. There could easily be all sorts of checksums/hashes buried in various places in the save file. I don't know what kinds of checks are in place. (and this is what Nintendo relies on to maintain the integrity of said checks) If, when you apply the cheat, any of such hashes become inconsistent, your game would become flagged and all Pokémon on it at the time would also be flagged.

 

[Zera]

While on the cubjet of JAA, does anyone have an official website for them, so that i could find out if i'm even able to participate, >.< I probubly wont, since its not an 'official cartrage' but hey, i payed for it wonce, i'm not buying it AGAIN, :|

 

[SecretSquirrel]

Just so you know, i said that the pokemon were NOT made with max IVs (that would be a dead giveaway - although it is still possible to obtain max IVs, someone out there would have a pokemon with all MAX IVs :/

Also to note, if the pokemon was cheated on another cartridge, and then traded multiple times to other cartridges, it would be exceptionally hard (if not impossible) if nintendo have left a 'flag' on a cheated save file that is transferred on to each cartridge you trade with (since i mentioned that the pokemon team has been transferred to two cartridges after the cheated one).

A hex editor is a very interesting thing you know, the pokemon themselves (unless Deoxys etc with an obedience flag) dont seem to have any extra information in their 80byte hex code that points at a different flag. But i suppose i could be wrong. Its impossible to know for sure unless you work for nintendos pokemon team

 

[Zera]

And there lies to keystone of the master plot of doom, get someone who actually works for the nintendo pokemon team, and ASK them!! omg!!! lol.

 

[MetalMario]

A hex editor is a very interesting thing you know, the pokemon themselves (unless Deoxys etc with an obedience flag) dont seem to have any extra information in their 80byte hex code that points at a different flag. But i suppose i could be wrong. Its impossible to know for sure unless you work for nintendos pokemon team

But take a look at how many "unused/unknown" bits there are scattered around the format. Any one of those (or perhaps an obscure combination) could be used as a cheat flag.

 

[SecretSquirrel]

Too true MetalMario, too true. I wonder why they wouldnt have incorporated this into Pokemon XD though, i know that if the pokemon hasnt been caught in the correct location etc, then Pokemon XD calls it a BAD EGG (or something is wrong with it) and doesnt allow you to use it on PKMN XD, but thats all, it doesnt stop you from using that 'cheated cartridge'. but i suppose thats because then they wouldnt sell as many games as they want if everyones cartridges dont work with the game because somewhere along the line they picked up a 'cheat' flag!!! Who knows, there may be such a thing, or there may not be. Lets hope there isnt hey

 

[Mello_Charla]

I have an AR cheated emerald, but its only so i can get my fave pokemon (which arn't legendary or modifyed) so its pretty dumb (but fair i geuss) that i would get kicked out for that. its a good thing i've got a clean fire red team on my side!