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Current Red version team

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Niloc

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This is my current Red version team, but I'm having trouble making a few final decisions. The pokemon with "*" by them means they will be on my final team. Any pokemon that does not I will leave up to you to choose for my final team (and if you feel like helping me out more redo all of their move lists.)

Blastoise-
Earthquake
Blizzard
Hydro Pump
Bubblebeam

*Jolteon-
Thunder Wave
Thunderbolt
Pin Missile
Double Kick

*Hitmonchan-
Mega Punch
Thunder Punch
Ice Punch
Substitute

Hypno-
Psychic
Head Butt
Hypnosis
Dream Eater

*Ninetales-
Confuse Ray
Body Slam
Flamethrower
Fire Blast

Exeggutor-
Hypnosis
Psychic
Solar Beam
Substitute

*Sandslash-
Toxic
Subsitiute
Rock Slide
Dig

Dewgong-
Surf
Ice Beam
Body Slam
Rest
 

Shiny Rokon

Well-Known Member
Hitmonchan has a low special stat...really low. You can keep him, but try to steer away from the special type moves.
Teach Ninetales Fire Spin instead of Fire Blast (personal preferance) it is an excellent annoyer move :p especially in r/b/y.
 

Dragon_Reborn

Well-Known Member
Niloc said:
This is my current Red version team, but I'm having trouble making a few final decisions. The pokemon with "*" by them means they will be on my final team. Any pokemon that does not I will leave up to you to choose for my final team (and if you feel like helping me out more redo all of their move lists.)

Blastoise-
Earthquake
Blizzard/Ice Beam
Hydro Pump/Surf
Body Slam

*Jolteon-
Thunder Wave
Thunderbolt
Pin Missile
Double Kick
Good.You could always throw Substitute if u want it.

*Hitmonchan-
Mega Punch/Submission
Thunder Punch/Ice Punch
Body Slam/Seismic Toss
Counter


Hypno-
Psychic
Rest
Hypnosis
Thunder Wave

*Ninetales-
Confuse Ray
Body Slam
Flamethrower/Fire Blast
Fire Spin

Exeggutor-
Sleep Powder
Psychic
Giga Drain
Explosion

*Sandslash-
Earthquake
Swords Dance
Rock Slide
Body Slam

Dewgong-
Surf
Ice Beam/Blizzard
Body Slam
Rest

Changes are above.For the other 2 needed pokemon,I would say go with Blastoise and Exegguator.
 
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Niloc

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I went with Dragon_Reborn's move sets (most of which I agree with) then went from there by fighting a few of my friends with my new team. Hitmonchan and Jolteon need some work imo, but this is everything at the momement.

My Current Red Version Team-

Blastoise-
Earthquake
Surf
Ice Beam
Body Slam

Opinion- Has a bit of everything. Combination of special and strength moves fits Blastoises stats well

Jolteon-
Thunder Wave
Thunderbolt
Pin Missile
Double Kick

Opinion- Jolteons Thunderbolt does huge damage due to its really high special. Pin Missile and Double Kick are good for fights against Psychic/Rock, but more powerful attacks would probably be better

Ninetales-
Confuse Ray
Toxic
Fire Spin
Flamethrower

Opinion- Very fun to use. Confuse Ray followed by Toxic and Fire Spin is awesome and can take out even Rock and Water pokemon with ease because of its high speed (annoyed the heck out of my friend). Because of there is a large stat difference between strength and special, Flamethrower does more damage than body slam even when it's not very effective.

Exeggutor-
Explosion
Giga Drain
Psychic
Sleep Powder

Opinion- Good in almost any situation. I have not had a chance to use Explosion against a human opponent yet, but I'm sure I'll have to eventually.

Hitmonchan-
Submission
Ice Punch
Seismic Toss
Counter

Opinion- Hitmonchan has a very high attack power which is not utilized in this set of moves, although it seems to work very well against any type of pokemon. Submission is terrible for its already low health. I'll do a little trial and error and get back to you guys later with a better move set.

Sandslash-
Swords Dance
Body Slam
Earthquake
Rock Slide

Opinion- Sandslash is a powerhouse. I doubt there is a better move set for it.
 
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Niloc

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Muah ha ha! I have done it! Through breeding on my silver version I was able to get a Hitmonchan with high jump kick which I traded to my Red version. Fear my mad l33t skillz, my Hitmonchan has pwned all of my friends teams nearly by itself every time. Here's my final updated move set. The changes are marked with a "*"

Hitmonchan-
Hi Jump Kick*
Counter
Lightning Punch*
Seismic Toss

For my Jolteon, I have been working with different TMs and seeing how effective they are. I tried using Substitute, but that didn't work well. Still it needed some change and although I like Pin Missile, I decided to get rid of it because Double Kick's fighting element makes it good against a wider range of types. My choice of Hyper Beam works out well because not many people see it coming and it's a great last ditch move. I might end up replacing it with some other move if I find one that works better, but I have yet to test anything else out. If any of you guys want to throw in your view on it it would help me out a bit with my choice.

Jolteon-
Thunderbolt
Thunder Wave
Double Kick
Hyper Beam?

Ah yes, two more small changes I will not go into long detail about

Blastoise-
Surf
Blizzard*
Body Slam
Earthquake

Ninetales-
Fire Spin
Fire Blast? (I might replace it with something else, but I have not found anything better atm)
Toxic
Confuse Ray
 
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Dragon_Reborn

Well-Known Member
Nilotic don't triple post.It is a rule u know.

Blastoise is good.Blizzard would work.More damage but less accurcy.
Jolteon: good but u can always throw substitute on it to take less damage.Body Slam is always good to put on it too for it has the chance to paralyze.
Ninetales: pretty good.Im not sure bout confuse Ray and Toxic togather.I would say to use Body Slam over Toxic.
Exeggutor:Good moveset.
Sandslash:Awesome moveset.It is the best for Sandslash.Good physical sweeper.
Hitmonchan:You could throw Ice Punch one him for Dragonite's.
 
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Niloc

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My bad Dragon_Reborn, I didn't notice until after I had posted. Won't happen again. Deja vu? Yep... :(
Anyway, I have to explain my choice of Toxic instead of Body Slam. My Ninetales' stratagy relies on Toxic. It goes something like this, let's say my Nintales is fighting a Sandslash. Nintales is faster so it goes first and uses Confuse Ray. Sandslash is confused and hopfully hurts itself. Nintales uses Toxic, Sandslash is badly poisoned. Sandslash is still confused and hopfully hurts itself in confusion again. Ninetales uses Fire Spin on Sandslash. Sandslash can't move, Sandslash takes poison damage. Move continues, Sandslash can't move and takes 2x poison damage. Fire Spin ends (eventually) with quite a bit of poison damage racking up. Nintales uses Fire Spin again and the pokemon will be dead by the end of it (usually, but if not, I like to end it with a Fireblast). I like having Confuse Ray because it has a chance of making the not be able to attack while I set up my Toxic+Fire Spin death combo. Also, because Nintales has a lot of special stat points, any special move I use is more effective at damaging a pokemon than a strength related move (like body slam) even if it is "not very effective" against that type.

I will reconsider Ice Punch for Hitmonchan and Substitute for Jolteon and get back to you guys with some more results.
 
Niloc said:
This is my current Red version team, but I'm having trouble making a few final decisions. The pokemon with "*" by them means they will be on my final team. Any pokemon that does not I will leave up to you to choose for my final team (and if you feel like helping me out more redo all of their move lists.)

Blastoise-
Earthquake
Blizzard
Hydro Pump
Bubblebeam
Surf somewhere. HPump is a nono
*Jolteon-
Thunder Wave
Thunderbolt
Pin Missile
Double Kick
Put Focus Energy in place of PMissle/DKik
*Hitmonchan-
Mega Punch
Thunder Punch
Ice Punch
Substitute
Lol, Megapunch. Put Dedge
Hypno-
Psychic
Head Butt
Hypnosis
Dream Eater
BSlam>HButt
*Ninetales-
Confuse Ray
Body Slam
Flamethrower
Fire Blast
Fine, place FSpin in place of Fthrower/Fblast
Exeggutor-
Hypnosis
Psychic
Solar Beam
Substitute
MegaDrain>Solarbeam, needs Stun Spore, you know?
*Sandslash-
Toxic
Subsitiute
Rock Slide
Dig
EQ>Dig.
Dewgong-
Surf
Ice Beam
Body Slam
Rest
blizzard>IceBeam. Rest is fine.
Suggestions are bold.
 
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