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Discussion in 'Older Gen RMT' started by Sweep, Apr 1, 2011.

  1. Sweep

    Sweep I'll Attack.



    Opening Thoughts:

    [Changes in Bold]

    Okay, so this is my first 'Rate My Team' so far. Hence if I do make a few mistakes in format, or other areas, forgive me. At a glance you may notice that Blaziken appears in this team. Blaziken has recently been banned or designated "Uber" by the folks at smogon. However because this team is based around, and tested on, Pokemon Online Blaziken is not classified as uber. Now while I have played competitive pokemon online for some time now, I still have a lot of work ahead of me in constructing teams and battling. So I would appreciate any feedback and input anyone may have. So without further adieu - I bring to you.

    D12 - Meet The Team:


    "Swift" - Accelgor
    Move 1: Spikes
    Move 2: U-turn
    Move 3: Bug Buzz
    Move 4: Yawn
    Nature: Hasty
    Item: Focus Sash
    Ability: Sticky Hold
    EV's: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe


    Okay, so I love this guy as a lead. Nine times out of ten I'll get spikes up. The main idea here is to yawn on my first turn, forcing the opponent to switch their lead or risking having it sleep. By doing this I usually get to set up two layers of spikes, one on the switch and one as the opponent depletes Accelgor's HP down to 1. Sometimes I may switch out and use him as fodder or just leave him in to set up more spikes or just get damage on whatever the opponent switches in. If I suspect the opponent carries a lum I can negate the yawn and immediately go for spikes. Usually as a suicide lead, Accelgor gets spikes down.


    "Kon" - Blaziken
    Move 1: Swords Dance
    Move 2: Protect
    Move 3: Flare Blitz
    Move 4: Stone Edge
    Item: Life Orb
    Ability: Speed Boost
    Nature: Adamant
    EV's: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe


    The new tend setter in Gen V. The main idea for Blaziken is to switch onto something I know will want to run (Protect is there for something I may not easily be able to switch into) then proceed to swords dance up and try to sweep. Not really a lot to say here, considering a fighting move or baton pass but I'm not really sure.


    "Proof" - Gengar
    Move 1: Shadow Ball
    Move 2: Clear Smog
    Move 3: Focus Blast
    Move 4: Hidden Power Ice
    item: Choice Specs/Life Orb
    EV's: 4 Def/252 SpA/ 252 Spe
    Nature: Timid


    Okay at first glance, this looks like a pretty standard specs/timid Gengar. However this Gengar carries the new Gen V move 'Clear Smog'. Those unfamiliar with this move should note that is just 'Haze' but with damage. I love this new addition to Gengar's move pool, it allows him to negate any set up that I may have let slide in. Because of this sort of crippling effect I'm considering changing Gengar to scarf & modest/timid to ensure that he'll go first to negate any stat changes before he gets attacked. The rest of Gengar is business as usual.


    "Shady" - Swampert
    Move 1: Stealth Rock
    Move 2: Earthquake
    Move 3: Ice Beam
    Move 4: Roar
    Item: Leftovers
    Nature: Relaxed
    EV's: 240 HP / 216 Def / 52 SpD


    I love Swampert, really. He eats nearly every Blaziken counter for breakfast. Mostly business as usual on Swampert, although I don't really see a lot of them carrying Ice Beam (Maybe they do, I'm not sure) so that's basically there for dragons that think they can set up on him. Ice Beam usually takes a Gliscor by surprise as well. Usually able to set up a Stealth Rock on Heatrans (Heatran comes in on Blaziken, Swampert comes in on Heatran, Rocks go up). Roar is for anything I'm scared of, anything bulky that wants to calm mind etc etc.


    "Bizzare" - Cresselia
    Move 1: Calm Mind
    Move 2: Moonlight
    Move 3: Psychic/Shadow Ball
    Move 4: Psycho Shift
    Item: Flame Orb
    Nature: Calm
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpD / 4 SpA


    I really rather odd set up for Cress here. Which is nice because it's usually unexpected. Cress' bulk usually alows it to Moonlight as it switches in to activate Flame Orb regardless of attack, or Calm Mind as the opponent switches. Psycho Shift is great for crippling the opponent so I can proceed to switch and set up. A few options present after this, I can either switch and set up. I could double Psycho Shift if I anticipate a switch. Or I could Calm Mind/Moonlight if the opponent is severely crippled (or will switch).


    "Kuniva" - Jirachi
    Move 1: Iron Head
    Move 2: Thunder Wave
    Move 3: Wish
    Move 4: Protect
    Nature: Careful
    Item: Leftovers
    EV's: 252 HP / 224 SpD / 32 Spe


    Pretty standard Jirachi here, nothing quirky. Jirachi is here to speed and hax cripple around the show with T-Wave. Provide support Wish (Protect for healing Jirachi itself). Iron head for the flinch stab move, combined with t-wave hax is always nice. Business as usual for the fairy.

    In Closing:

    You may have noticed the theme of D12 throughout the RMT, what with nicknames and such. That's purely for aesthetic appeal and my own personal appreciation. Plus I like giving each team a name. But that's not related to pokemon at all XD As I said in my opening stated, I'm looking for any and all criticism and input and I appreciate any help you may be able to provide. I know some of the sets may be a little off the wall, but I have tested this team several times and the win/loss ration seems to be pretty 50/50.


    Last edited: Apr 1, 2011
  2. Aquadon

    Aquadon TCG Trainer

    Balls. This is an amazing Team. My only beef would be that although Clear Smog is AMAZING on Gengar, that you're choice-locking yourself into that move, which would give Steels a good chance to set up on you. Other than that it looks great. I personally would not want to go toe to toe with that Cresselia.

    Think you could take a look at my Team? http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=501973
  3. Haxorusfan

    Haxorusfan Dragon Trainer

    REALLLLY good team only thing I would change is cresselia shouldn't have to psychic move. take out psychic for shadow ball or something.
  4. Sweep

    Sweep I'll Attack.

    Thought I'd give this thread a bump, since I'm still seeking input on this team still.
    I'd appreciate ANY and all criticism, come on guys..it's not that hard to leave a tip.

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