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Dancin' in the rain (Rain Dance NU team)

Discussion in 'Older Gen RMT' started by LiekingOfMudkipz, Jan 22, 2010.

  1. LiekingOfMudkipz

    LiekingOfMudkipz New Member

    Yeah, I need a bit of help with my team I have my physical attackers sorted and one wall with a lead but I have too many physical attackers and need to replace two for a special attacker.

    Electrode (Lead) with Damp Rock
    252 Spe Evs, 252 Att ev's

    Rain Dance
    Gyro Ball
    Explosion
    Taunt

    Grumpig (Special Wall) with Damp Rock
    252 Hp Ev's, 252 Sp. Def Ev's

    Rain Dance
    Psychic
    Hidden Power Fire
    Signal Beam

    Qwilfish (Physical Attacker) with Life Orb
    252 Att Ev's, 252 Spe Ev's

    Poison Jab
    Waterfall
    Explosion
    Return

    Mantine (Special) with leftovers
    252 Sp. Atk Ev's, 125 Hp Ev's, 125 Spe Ev's

    Surf
    Ice Beam
    Aerial Ace
    Rain Dance

    Huntail (Physical) with Life Orb
    252 Spe Ev's, 252 Att Ev's

    Waterfall
    Icefang
    Crunch
    Return

    Floatzel (Physical,) with Leftovers
    252 Attack Ev's, 125 HP Ev's, 125

    Aqua Jet
    Ice Punch
    Return
    Brine

    I'd like to switch Floatzel because I already Have huntail to take that part, plus Huntail and Qwilfish do really well anyway and don't need another physical attack to play around,

    i'm thinking of gorebyss but i'm not sure.

    +
    Rate my current team from 1-5, 5 being highest ( Of course :eek:)
    Thanks!
     
  2. palingensia

    palingensia amends

    No descriptions or natures, but NU needs more love so I'll rate anyway.

    Firstly, Qwilfish is UU, sadly. So you'll have to remove him.

    Now, Gyro Ball is not a good attack on lead Electrode. Since you're using the rain, I suggest you use Thunder. 100% STAB 120 power move is never bad, even on something which is supposed to really attack outside of Explosion. Also, its nature should be Hasty, with ability Soundproof. Tweak the EVs to 252 Atk/48 SpA/208 Spd for best results with Explosion.

    Floatzel greatly outclasses Huntail in terms of rain sweeping, so keep Floatzel and not Huntail.

    Floatzel @Life Orb
    Swift Swim | Adamant | 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
    ~ Aqua Jet/Waterfall
    ~ Ice Punch
    ~ Crunch/Waterfall
    ~ Return

    Very good coverage in NU with these moves, and packing Crunch helps against Psychics, especially Espeon.

    Now, you lack Stealth Rock, which is crucial to all teams. Because of this, I suggest you use Relicanth. It's a good revenge killer even without rain.

    Relicanth @Choice Scarf
    Rock Head | Adamant | 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
    ~ Head Smash
    ~ Waterfall
    ~ Earthquake
    ~ Stealth Rock

    You can bluff a utility set here, by setting up Stealth Rock as they switch to their Relicanth counter/check, meaning you can smash it when they come back in next time.

    Next, your team lacks something to deal with a few very big threats in NU, mainly Medicham. Rather than having Grumpig, I suggest you have Dusclops.

    Dusclops @Leftovers/Damp Rock
    Pressure | Impish | 252 HP/252 Def/4 SpD
    ~ Night Shade/Seismic Toss
    ~ Will-o-Wisp
    ~ Pain Split
    ~ Rain Dance

    It burns Medicham, rendering it less dangerous than usual, and sets up rain for you too.

    Now, Mantine. When it comes to being a special wall, Regice is generally the best in the tier. Hence, I suggest you try it.

    Regice @Leftovers/Damp Rock
    Clear Body | Calm | 252 HP/4 SpA/252 SpD
    ~ Rain Dance
    ~ Ice Beam
    ~ Thunderbolt/Seismic Toss
    ~ Thunder Wave

    Very good utility Pokemon. Thunder Wave is useful for when rain isn't up and your Pokemon are slowed down a bit.

    If you're not too keen on Regice, Dewgong is another option. Hydration is a fantastic ability, and it can be quite an effective special wall providing rain is up.

    Dewgong @Leftovers/Damp Rock
    Hydration | Calm/Careful | 252 HP/4 Def/252 SpD
    ~ Rain Dance
    ~ Encore
    ~ Surf/Aqua Jet
    ~ Rest

    Rests off any damage and gets auto-healed by Hydration. Use Calm if you want to go for Surf or Careful if you want Aqua Jet.

    Now, you lack a sixth team member. What I think you really lack is another rain abusing sweeper, but this one should be specially based. You could go a number of ways here, but I suggest another Swift Swimmer. Gorebyss is its name.

    Gorebyss @Life Orb
    Swift Swim | Modest | 4 HP/252 SpA/252 Spd
    ~ Surf
    ~ Ice Beam
    ~ Hidden Power Grass
    ~ Psychic

    Fast and quite deadly sweeper in the rain. Hidden Power Grass lets you hit Quagsire for good damage too.

    So, to sum up:
    • Lead Electrode
    • Scarf Relincath
    • LO Floatzel
    • Dusclops
    • Regice/Dewgong
    • LO Gorebyss

    Also number ratings are useless btw.
     
  3. LiekingOfMudkipz

    LiekingOfMudkipz New Member

    Thanks, i'll try the team out :eek: howver I have an issue.


    Relicanth @Choice Scarf
    Rock Head | Adamant | 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
    ~ Head Smash
    ~ Waterfall
    ~ Earthquake
    ~ Stealth Rock

    You said, use stealth rock and then when they bring in a counter use headsmash, but it's scarfed.. What use would that be?
     
  4. Ontop

    Ontop Well-Known Member

    He said when they come back in next time.
     
  5. CreepacisT

    CreepacisT Upcoming WiFi GOD

    ...needs descriptions.
    don't people read the posting rules?

    one thing, and I lol'd when I saw it. gyro ball on electrode, lulz. gyro ball only works well on slow as **** pokemon, so the possibly fastest lead ever doesn't want it :p

    and I see otaku remodeled your team :p so if you fix the OP and add descriptions I could rate, haha.
     
  6. adu98

    adu98 Member

    Magneton could make and appearence

    Magneton
    Choice Specs/Leftovers
    Thunder
    Flash Cannon
    Hidden Power Grass
    Tri Attack/Metal Sound

    Only use Metal Sound when holding Leftovers
     
  7. benttwig33

    benttwig33 Forum n00b!

    Why the heck would you give Electrode gyro ball? Hes one of the fastest pokes in the game, its going to have the lowest base power possible on every attack, not to mention lack to STAB and a terrible attack stat.


    Thunderbolt/Thunder > Gyro Ball
     
  8. Indragon

    Indragon Back in the USSR

    Otaku said almost all there was to be said. However, you might want to consider a Rock Polish Relicanth, who can sweep even after the rain fades away. I think Explosion over Thunderbolt for Regice so you can almost assuredly remove a threat which is preventing you from sweeping.
     
  9. I tried these sets on my rain team and it worked really well

    Dewgong@Damp Rock/ Leftovers 252Hp/252SpAtk
    Ability: Hydration
    -Surf
    -Ice Beam
    -Rain Dance
    -Rest

    Surf there for STAB ice beam more STAB and type coverage. set up rain and rest of damage u recover from sleep status at the end of the turn :)

    overall 3/5
     

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