SerGoldenhandtheJust
Deluded Dreamer
While that would be cool I'd think it's too late for that to happen
Okay that's a good point ;/
Man I really wanted a Legends Arceus based movie, not an anime arc
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Dec 25th: M23 - Pocket Monsters the Movie: Coco (Feb 28: Story/profiles)
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Man I really wanted a Legends Arceus based movie, not an anime arc
Lord Starfish
Fond of owls
I don't. Minna no Monogatari and Koko both easily blow at least all the XY movies out of the water. And while I was "meh" on I Choose You... Yeah no that one also blew at the very least all the XY movies out of the water.
PsychoLogical
Black and White, Yin and Yang, Light and Dark.
The canon movies sucked after M13.
AuraChannelerChris
Easygoing Luxray.
Blowing any or all of the XY movies isn't exactly hard to do, but is by no means a real achievement because they're all bad anyway.
(Though the BW movies are even worse than the XY movies.)
(Though the BW movies are even worse than the XY movies.)
Captain Jigglypuff
*On Vacation. Go Away!*
I thought that the Diancie And Magearna movies were decent. The Hoopa movie was meh. But I do agree that BW had the weakest movies with the Genesect movie being the only good one. Victini’s was novel having two different versions but the issue there is it is a bit dull and you’re literally watching the same movie with very minor detail differences. The differences had no real effect on the plot. And the Keldeo would have worked better as a stand-alone special without Ash, Iris, And Cilian. The main group were virtually useless and didn’t really do anything to help the plot other than Ash discovering an injured Keldeo. The movie is just disappointing.
Twilight-Kun
Pokemon World Champion
I see nobody's actually watched the XY movies
Kinda weird, but ok
Kinda weird, but ok
AuraChannelerChris
Easygoing Luxray.
That one sucked the most for many reasons, though. Ash and co. didn't even have any action! I still remember the park Feraligatr doing all the heavy lifting!
TheWanderingMist
Paladin of the Snow Queen
It may have been a bad movie, but the Keldeo one was easily the worst og Gen V's movies. Keldeo started off so annoying that I was rooting for Kyurem from the beginning.
Dragalge
"Orange" Magical Girl
The whole point of Keldeo was to be overconfident in trying to beat Kyurem until it defeated Keldeo. The movie focuses on Keldeo learning to be more humble. Even when losing to Kyurem the second time, Keldeo had learned about humility and this time accepted the loss and what its own strength stood at.
TheWanderingMist
Paladin of the Snow Queen
They should've just made Keldeo the villain.
AuraChannelerChris
Easygoing Luxray.
Yeah, but, what did Ash and company even do. They just dealt with escorting the pony while fending off some Cryogonal.
Then there's the incredible unexplained excuse as to how Kyurem could freely change between forms without having either Zekrom or Reshiram around.
The group then got it worse in the next movie where they barely had any action but were simply spectators. Ash himself didn't do anything notable.
SerGoldenhandtheJust
Deluded Dreamer
While BW movies sucked more then the XY movies, the XY movies felt stale as well. It wasn't that it was bad...it was just stale as hell. Testament to the same old movie formula. I actually did like the Volcanion movie and the Diancie movie to some extent, as well as liking the fight scenes of the Hoopa movies, but the new AU movies are much better then them
Not to mention they don't bring into question canon like the movies did ever since the victini one
Captain Jigglypuff
*On Vacation. Go Away!*
Exactly. Keldeo getting a one off hour long special without the gang would have been suffice. None of them really did anything special and the entire movie was too focused on Keldeo and Kyurem. And it isn’t like one off specials focusing on a Pokémon without the gang or very few humans hasn’t happened before. We saw an episode focusing on the Slowking from the second movie, and Diancie and Hoopa got shorts. Keldeo being annoying for half the movie I can forgive as the whole point of the plot was him discovering who he was inside and growing up to be a better Pokémon that didn’t make any rash decisions. Keldeo also had to learn to be confident and to own up to one’s own mistakes and not let anyone else but himself to try and fix it. Keldeo getting injured and being found by Nurse Joy could have worked and still had the same impact as the gang finding him and Keldeo could have been written as escaping through an open window during the night while everyone is asleep. From there everything would be exactly the same only without the gang doing literally nothing in the background. It’s even worse that the mascot of the entire franchise didn’t do squat in the movie as all the other movies have Pikachu getting one major moment in the movie that end up impacting the rest of the film. The first and remake had it refusing to fight its clone and mourning Ash, the second had it helping collect the orbs to help summon Lugia, the third had Pikachu trying to break the spell the Unown had created, and the Lucario movie had Ash needing to go to the Tree of Life to get Pikachu back and it mourning the loss of Ash again under very different circumstances which made Mew reverse the Tree absorbing the humans and putting its own health at risk just so Pikachu would be happy again. In the Keldeo movie Pikachu just literally sits there for about 90% of the movie.
cricketlaxwolvesbandy
Summoning...
I liked the Genesect movie
Ignition
We are so back Zygardebros
The XY were not that bad IMO. I think Diancie’s was the weakest link and Hoopa’s felt like a mess at times but they weren’t nearly as bad as people make them out to be. I’d argue Volcanion’s is one of the better movies. I’d gladly watch those over any of the Gen 7 movies which were mostly bland tbh.
AuraChannelerChris
Easygoing Luxray.
It was a whole mess and perhaps the worst XY movie because it pushes everyone else but Ash to the background.
And I also mean the citizens in that random huge city, if there were any.
Spider-Phoenix
#ChespinGang
I like the Volcanion movie.
.... Though I'm still bitter at the manga version for cutting Ash's other pokémon AND his companions
.... Though I'm still bitter at the manga version for cutting Ash's other pokémon AND his companions
Ignition
We are so back Zygardebros
I think Diancie’s is worse but if the whole exaggerated “Ash was worshipped in XY” criticism people had any weight, the Hoopa movie would probably be the one time I’d accept that criticism
Most did, yeah. But it's just weird to have an AU Ash without much further explanation. I don't even know if AU Ash is the same in all the movies, or a different one in each of them.
I'd rather them either return to use canon Ash or just use different characters altogether. I can't really get invested in the adventure of an Ash that I don't even know anything about.
If they used the foundations of "I Choose you", and continued the story from there, maybe it'd be cool to see where that AU Ash goes next. But they feel so disconnected to everything and between themselves that it's just like watching an animated fanfic imo.
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