December 9th: PM2019 135 - Pokémon! I Am Glad I Got To Meet You!

[DayQuil95]

Paul never said that he was not on their level. All he said was that he is "not one for festivities".

 

[Guy100]

With Goh's current challenge now over, I just wonder what sort of journey Goh is thinking to go on after failing his Project Mew mission.

I was duped by JN 4th opening into thinking that Regigigas would somehow be the final obstacle in the project mew far away island arc, in which Goh would have to overcome to get to mew, but alas I expected too much. Since the final project mew trial mission, Goh had not got any new pokemon, and I was patiently expected his final capture at the end of the project Mew story would be grandiose, such as a Regigigas. At least if he failed his mission of getting mew, he had a giant Golem as a souvenir.

I'm not looking forward to this episode, but from the preview of 135, it seems maybe that Mew may show up again, if I assume that blue orb like thingy by the tree is the cat (Mew) pokemon within.

 

[AJ97]

Putting ridiculous scaling aside, yeah Paul would be the closest trainer that we know of in power and skill to the Masters 8, but when he himself said that he was not on their level, and the anime leads up to the logical plot follow-up that they're on a league of their own, it becomes clear what the intention there was, and just who's stronger than who. I fully believe he could push Ash more than he did, but to the extent of the likes he fought in the Masters 8? Not even close.

This was mentioned when Paul was trying to "Imitate their style by using their signature Pokemon". Naturally, what Paul imitates would be inferior to what Ash would have faced in the Master Class.

We literally see Steven use Paul's exact same strategy with Metagross thanks to which Ash was able to handle it. Naturally, Steven had a lot more in store; things Paul couldn't replicate.

 

[SerGoldenhandtheJust]

What’s there not to buy when the series does it all the time? Once upon a time they treated there being 151 Pokémon as the Bible and new Pokemon beyond that to be a wonder. Meanwhile the other regions exist. Hell Oak, an expert on Pokémon has a cousin in Alola and colleagues in Unova despite having once upon a time known nothing of Pokémon beyond Kanto existing.

.....those are literally different things?
These are soft retcons due to the nature of the franchise evolving and growing
The Paldean trainers not caring about the PWC on the other hand is an illogical derivement with no basis and a direct contradiction of their character in the games and eventual portrayal in the anime, unless they remove the Pokemon league association or the gyms and competitive nature and whatnot.

 

[STICKTOPIA]

I feel Ash became a master defeating Leon. There’s no reason keeping Ash around as the main character anymore. Time for some new blood while Ash continues his journey off-screen.

Well it’s confirmed Ash will be in generation 9

 

[RileyXY1]

Well it’s confirmed Ash will be in generation 9

But we don't know in what capacity. All that we know is that he is there in some form.

 

[SatoSereFan224888]

Well it’s confirmed Ash will be in generation 9

Which is stupid. After he beat Leon, there was no reason keeping Ash around.

 

[Bulu likes pepsi]

Ash will stay until Rica retires.

 

[lemoncatpower]

As long as we never ever find out about what the living hell a Pokemon Master is, Ash is forever going to remain around. For all we know, he'd become king of the universe, only for him to say "one step closer to becoming a Pokemon Master!"

I'd still rather take an Ash reset compared to a new character

 

[KirliaToon50]

Yeah. Ash is going to stay this time around with new Gen 9 Mons and it's tiring to see SatoSerene saying the same thing again and again.

 

[U.N. Owen]

Which is stupid. After he beat Leon, there was no reason keeping Ash around.

Seriously, get a better argument. None of us want to see Ash mutilated like you want him or turned into a glorified home maker like you crave.

 

[Poke Master 7]

.....those are literally different things?
These are soft retcons due to the nature of the franchise evolving and growing
The Paldean trainers not caring about the PWC on the other hand is an illogical derivement with no basis and a direct contradiction of their character in the games and eventual portrayal in the anime, unless they remove the Pokemon league association or the gyms and competitive nature and whatnot.

It’s literally a case that they didn’t take part because the region wasn’t even conceptualized when it happened. Notice that in the gimmick rule there’s Mega Evolution, Z-Moves and Dynamax but no Terrastalization despite the fact that, by your logic, they took part in this and it’s not like a character has to be a representative of that region to use its gimmicks as is shown with Cynthia using Mega Evolution and Dynamax and Lance uses Dynamax. So at that point, they left out the gimmick of a region that’s supposedly competing thus putting them at a disadvantage if you keep the logic that everyone was in it even beyond the 8 regions that actually existed when the tournament was created. As things stand, there’s no reason to believe that regions beyond the 8 were competing. It’s literally in the anime’s DNA that this kind of thing happens all the time because of the expansive nature of the franchise. It’s literally no different than how Pokémon from later regions suddenly started showing up in Kanto after Ash and friends went to newer regions.

 

[SatoSereFan224888]

As long as we never ever find out about what the living hell a Pokemon Master is, Ash is forever going to remain around. For all we know, he'd become king of the universe, only for him to say "one step closer to becoming a Pokemon Master!"

I always thought being a Pokemon master meant catching every Pokemon out there. Ash will never do that.

 

[Bulu likes pepsi]

Seriously, get a better argument. None of us want to see Ash mutilated like you want him or turned into a glorified home maker like you crave.

His nickname is an obvious giveaway, I mean I'm surprised we don't also have SatoHaru30494, AshXDawnForever133 and PokeShipper550, these guys just want to see Ash grown up with a girlfriend he's traveled with and it's like they don't get the memo that the writers aren't interested in making an anime for grown ups and actually believe these ships will become canon

I'm sure there's a lot of things they can do with Ash even after becoming world champion. Like destructuring a bad organization or using the past and future theme of Cyclizar from SV

 

[STICKTOPIA]

Which is stupid. After he beat Leon, there was no reason keeping Ash around.

We don’t know the definition of a Pokémon master, so even though he beat Leon it doesn’t mean his work is finished.

 

[Lord Godwin]

We don’t know the definition of a Pokémon master, so even though he beat Leon it doesn’t mean his work is finished.

We will learn a Pokemon Master needs to pass all the Classes in the Academy and the Champion Assessment test. Can totally see as failing on one of the 2 followinf questions:
1. Do Electric type moves work on Ground types?
And
2. Who is the first Champion of Alola and current PWT Monarch?

 

[SatoSereFan224888]

Goh clearly never said that himself, so that's a no-no.

But that’s how it is in the games by catching every Pokemon to fill the Pokédex.

 

[STICKTOPIA]

But that’s how it is in the games by catching every Pokemon to fill the Pokédex.

It’s very clear as day that ash will NOT catch every Pokémon, so catching every Pokémon is definitely not the way to be a Pokémon master. If that WAS the case, then Goh has a better chance to be a Pokémon master.

 

[RileyXY1]

We'll probably never know what a Pokemon Master even is.

 

[SatoSereFan224888]

It’s very clear as day that ash will NOT catch every Pokémon, so catching every Pokémon is definitely not the way to be a Pokémon master. If that WAS the case, then Goh has a better chance to be a Pokémon master.

True.