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December Plot Discussion

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1dbad

~The Blizzard Prince
Sorry for my wall of text guys. >_> At least all these ones have been nice though, so hopefully that makes it not so bad.
most popular?

then why does Black have Munna then..
Yeah, or at least used to. That may not be true now though. I also hear they base their teams on color schemes, HM moves, and to fit them and their personality, so that's not the only factor.~

I thought Munna was fairly popular, no? Maybe I was wrong then. XD I do know Wargle is popular though. :3

Despite what anyone says, I'm still a big fan of this manga.
This.

I think that scene with Prof. Arargi and the other starters was the first chapter, while the one with Zoura was maybe after this chapter?
Yeah, I believe so. And probably. This chapter doesn't seem to be continous to the Zorua chapter, so it's probably before it.

Probably. I think the next volume will end D/P arc, and probably vol. 39 will continue into the Platinum arc.
That's what I'm thinking too. Although depending on how much room is left in volume 38, it's possible it might already start the Platinum arc. :3 If not it should definitely be by 39 though.

True.
Although I'm kinda hoping that, if they don't change how the arc ends, they at least close up some of the plots holes they ended up producing.
Yeah, me too.

It might be to early to count an OC as a dexholder right now.
That's very true. Especially if White getting a female Pokabu is true, since it'll most likely mean Belle and Cheren will get a starter and dex after all.

I sure hope so. Also, the tankobons have some things that have been changed. Remember? in the magazine, Mars had a Luxray, but in the manga, she has an Electrevire.
Yeah exactly. There have been all sorts of changes in the tankobons, from additional chapters, to changes in dialogue and artwork, and everything else.

Won't that Wargle be very high leveled for him though? I think Washibon evolves at lvl 50 or something.
That is true. I believe it doesn't evolve 'til like, lvl 54 or something. o_O So that would be awfully high leveled, especially considering his Pokabu and Munna are still unevolved....

If that is so, then I'm kinda hoping she gets her own Starter later. Maybe Mijumaru.
I wouldn't mind her getting her own starter later either. I'm just saying if she really does get Pokabu, I don't mind. I think the pattern would be Tsutarja, but they could possibly be different and give her Mijumaru. =P
 

Lorde

Let's go to the beach, each.
I'm rather interested in whether Belle and Cheren really will get Mijumaru and Tsutarja as their Starter Pokemon. I would have never thought that the two main protagonist characters in the B/W series would be getting the same Starter Pokemon, so I didn't plan ahead for Belle or Cheren. I guess Belle would do good with a cute Mijumaru and Cheren would do well with a tough Tsutarja, but it seems a little odd for both Black and White to get a Pokabu. I bet it'll take time for me to get used to seeing that, if it does indeed happen.
 

Platinum fan.

RetiredPokemonMaster
There sure is a lot of whining going around about Pokespecial dying because of HGSS. So it wasn't the best arc, big deal. I personally didn't think the Emerald chapter was anything to write home about other then the Dexholder reunion at the end, but that doesn't mean it wasn't a good arc or that Pokespecial is dying. Writing a manga series that everyone likes that has numerous chapters is hard work.

On other note's, I don't know where this talk of White being like Platinum came from. Platinum/Platina/whatever she's called is rich because of her family it's all in her blood, not like she's running her family herself. White on the other hand sound's like she's running her business herself We'll have to see but as already mentioned manga character's don't have the same personalities (Not that Platinum has a bad one or anything.)

And on a funnier note, I kind of hope N is like the Pokemon version of the crying Indian. Like every time he see's a trainer with a Pokemon he shed's a tear, or when you see Pokemon battle's you see N in the background shedding tears, would be a funny early running gag before thing's get to serious during the middle and end.
 

TDMFAN

Member
I assume Cheren will get Mijumaru. ok for 1. Touko/Touya in BW games get a starter weaker to Cherens starter. Meaning Bel gets Tsutarja. Even you guys think those 2 dot match. Think of Ruby and ZuZu. Besides i like the idea of Black and White having the same starter. Its cool.
 

Lorde

Let's go to the beach, each.
I assume Cheren will get Mijumaru. ok for 1. Touko/Touya in BW games get a starter weaker to Cherens starter. Meaning Bel gets Tsutarja. Even you guys think those 2 dot match. Think of Ruby and ZuZu. Besides i like the idea of Black and White having the same starter. Its cool.

I don't think Belle would do well with Tsutarja or that Cheren would do well with Mijumaru because of the character's personalities and the Pokemon's personalities. Tsutarja seems so reserved and Belle is seen as being pretty darn happy and spontaneous. On the other hand, Mijumaru seems cheerful but Cheren seems really reserved and serious. Their personalities sort of clash and it's not something I'd see working in the B/W chapter. I'm all for mixing things up a bit, but sometimes opposites do not attract :x
 

1dbad

~The Blizzard Prince
I don't think Belle would do well with Tsutarja or that Cheren would do well with Mijumaru because of the character's personalities and the Pokemon's personalities. Tsutarja seems so reserved and Belle is seen as being pretty darn happy and spontaneous. On the other hand, Mijumaru seems cheerful but Cheren seems really reserved and serious. Their personalities sort of clash and it's not something I'd see working in the B/W chapter. I'm all for mixing things up a bit, but sometimes opposites do not attract :x
As much as I agree with you here, two things worth pointing out are:
1.) On the games, Belle gets the starter your starter is strong against (in Black's case, that would give her Tsutarja) and Cheren gets the starter yours is weak against (again, which in Black's case, would be Mijumaru)
2.) Remember in the first chapter, Coronis noted that Mijumaru was noted as the scariest starter, easily getting angry at Tsutarja and Pokabu fighting and started beating the heck out of both Pokemon with its shell. Just worth mentioning because I could see Cheren liking it's scariness and strength, and upon full evolution I could see them getting along. (plus Belle wears more green and Cheren wears more blue...)

But that still doesn't mean anything. Special, although based on the games, doesn't follow it to the T all the time. I mean look at the R/S arc, Ruby actually got the starter strongest against Sapphire's starter, so I could easily see them doing the same there here. Plus I'm just kind of hoping for Belle/Mijumaru and Cheren/Tsutarja if they do in fact get the starters. xDDD;;
 

lolipiece

Catnip it in the bud
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wrong, Bel gets the weak one, and Cheren gets the stronger one
 

*Jean Grey*

Night Triumphant
Even if the Wotter is scary, I don't think it would go to Cheren. I see him with a proud, regal Pokemon like Smugleaf. In fact, it would be hilarious to see happy-go-lucky Belle with a scary Wotter, while Cheren, with his "better-than-you" attitude fits Smugleaf to a T.
 

Maxim

Beyond repair
To those who expect much from the tankobon version of HGSS:

It's not gonna happen. Even if the HGSS Saga will be expanded in tankobon version, it will be just a couple of additional chapters. It WON'T become a long and action-packed saga out of sudden. It will still be rushed and dead-ended. And main questions like "what happened to Mahogany Gym?" will still be left unanswered. Bear with it. This arc has been killed in its midlife. The tankobon won't really fix it. It'll fail to suffice your expectations anyway.

Just a couple of additional tankobon-only chapters. Nothing more than that.
 
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e9310103838

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The official net renewed,

and the home page increases BW.

I like the new picture of Black and White.

37vol cover is Pearl and his team,and the color is pearl pink.

so 38vol cover is Dia with his team and the color is diamond blue? ;munchlax;
 
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1dbad

~The Blizzard Prince
To those who expect much from the tankobon version of HGSS:

It's not gonna happen. Even if the HGSS Saga will be expanded in tankobon version, it will be just a couple of additional chapters. It WON'T become a long and action-packed saga out of sudden. It will still be rushed and dead-ended. And main questions like "what happened to Mahogany Gym?" will still be left unanswered. Bear with it. This arc has been killed in its midlife. The tankobon won't really fix it. It'll fail to suffice your expectations anyway.

Just a couple of additional tankobon-only chapters. Nothing more than that.
How do you know that'll be all? You have no idea how many chapters we might have missed inbetween, how many chapters extra chapters we'll get to wrap it up, additional scenes, artwork and dialogue, and a few other fixes. I'm sure there will be more tweaks than just that "a couple additional chapters". I will still give you it won't fix all of the flaws though, but it'll most definitely be better than the messy magazine release. And the original point of jumping ship too early still stands for you, but do what you like.

On a sidenote: I love the new pics, and it is so awesome to see BW on the site now and a colored pic for it as well. I like volume 37's cover as well, but it is different from what I was expecting. Ah well. Still cool regardless. :)
 

Lorde

Let's go to the beach, each.
2.) Remember in the first chapter, Coronis noted that Mijumaru was noted as the scariest starter, easily getting angry at Tsutarja and Pokabu fighting and started beating the heck out of both Pokemon with its shell. Just worth mentioning because I could see Cheren liking it's scariness and strength, and upon full evolution I could see them getting along. (plus Belle wears more green and Cheren wears more blue...)

I didn't see anything about Mijumaru being scary so I must have missed that. Well nevermind then. As for the color schemes; I don't know if I'd use that as an indicator of which character would end up with which Starter Pokemon. Black doesn't have much red on him except on his shoes and hat, despite having a Fire-type Pokemon with a redish color scheme. So I don't think Belle or Cheren's clothing color will matter much when it comes to Starters.

Well, even if color scheme were important, I could see the manga going with the whole polar-opposite concept, and giving Belle and Cheren, Pokemon with color schemes that are opposites to theirs. Similar to what happened to the box covers for the games :p
 
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knux-the-killer

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I like the new pics!
But....no N.....TT_____TT
Coronis, please, show us N's image! =D
 

king gyrados

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The way I see things is that Cheren will get mijumaru and Bel will get tsutarja, since that's the way it goes in the games. Also can someone tell me what's going on with the platinum arc? I'm kind of confused about that.
 

e9310103838

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The way I see things is that Cheren will get mijumaru and Bel will get tsutarja, since that's the way it goes in the games. Also can someone tell me what's going on with the platinum arc? I'm kind of confused about that.

Platinum arc starts in 38vol or 39vol.

I guess next year will be the Platinum arc based,

and HGSS will be year after next. ;355;
 
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blob

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They did? Over in Pixiv? Luckily, PokeSpe is going the good route with names with Black as boy and White as girl.

Oops. I meant the other way around.
Anyway, I find it hard to call the girl White, since I imagine that as the boys name.
 

blob

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That's what I'm thinking too. Although depending on how much room is left in volume 38, it's possible it might already start the Platinum arc. :3 If not it should definitely be by 39 though.

Actually, there's only 12 Chapters left, so Vol 38 will have enough room for the start of Platinum.

BTW, I always saw Black and White as twins. I guess no-one else thought of that. :S

Anyway, anyone else really want to see Pearl with a Dugtrio? We already have two main charaters with Diglett. Maybe it'll evolve in the Platinum arc.


Oh, and the ending for HGSS reminds me of how in RS, they abandoned Wally. I hope he comes back in the RSE Re-make! D:
 
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Dreamingflower

Trying out new games
Wow the HGSS ending is a real dissapointment. I hope it will get better in the vol. No it has too. Lol White busness women soo funny but why do they have both the same starter I hoped she got Tsutarja. Maybe it's only borrowed or something. I guess she has a big pokemon colletcion like Crys. Maybe she has all 3 starters. that would be funny
 
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