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Dex Speculation/Discussion Thread [READ THE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES]

Discussion in 'Pokémon Generation VI Discussion' started by bobandbill, Jan 8, 2013.

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  1. bobandbill

    bobandbill Winning Smile Staff Member Super Mod

    Discuss and speculate about the POSSIBLE NEW POKEMON, and EXISTING POKEMON THAT WILL BE PRESENT in Pokemon X & Y.

    All posts, speculation or not, should be constructive and contain ideas, support/elaborate their ideas, and must contribute to the discussions and/or on-going arguments. Also, one-liner posts such as "I agree.", "I want [this] to be in the game!", "This sucks!" will all be considered SPAM, deleted and you will be possibly infracted.

    Let's promote a worthwhile discussion!

    The following are a list of known Pokemon that appeared in every gameplay trailer, promotional artwork, screenshot, etc.
    However, take note that all Pokemon listed below COULD NOT be part of the Regional Dex.

    According to Masuda, all(?) Pokemon will be obtainable but collecting them will be almost impossible.

    LIST OF GEN 6 POKEMON (Current Total: 69)
    #650 Chespin (Grass)
    #651 Quilladin (Grass)
    #652 Chesnaught (Grass/Fighting)

    #653 Fennekin (Fire)
    #654 Braixen (Fire)
    #655 Delphox (Fire/Psychic)

    #656 Froakie (Water)
    #657 Frogadier (Water)
    #658 Greninja (Water/Dark)

    #659 Bunnelby (Normal)
    #660 Diggersby (Normal/Ground)

    #661 Fletchling (Normal/Flying)
    #662 Fletchinder (Fire/Flying)
    #663 Talonflame (Fire/Flying)

    #664 Scatterbug (Bug)
    #665 Spewpa (Bug)
    #666 Vivillon (Bug/Flying)

    #667 Litleo (Fire/Normal)
    #668 Pyroar (Fire/Normal)

    #669 Flabébé (Fairy)
    #670 Floette (Fairy)
    #671 Florges (Fairy)

    #672 Skiddo (Grass)
    #673 Gogoat (Grass)

    #674 Pancham (Fighting)
    #675 Pangoro (Fighting/Dark)

    #676 Furfrou (Normal)

    #677 Espurr (Psychic)
    #678 Meowstic (Psychic)

    #679 Honedge (Steel/Ghost)
    #680 Doublade (Steel/Ghost)
    #681 Aegislash (Steel/Ghost)

    #682 Spritzee (Fairy)
    #683 Aromatisse (Fairy)

    #684 Swirlix (Fairy)
    #685 Slurpuff (Fairy)

    #686 Inkay (Dark/Psychic)
    #687 Malamar (Dark/Psychic)

    #688 Binacle (Rock/Water)
    #689 Barbaracle (Rock/Water)

    #690 Skrelp (Poison/Water)
    #691 Dragalge (Poison/Water)

    #692 Clauncher (Water)
    #693 Clawitzer (Water)

    #694 Helioptile (Electric/Normal)
    #695 Heliolisk (Electric/Normal)

    #696 Tyrunt (Rock/Dragon)
    #697 Tyrantrum (Rock/Dragon)

    #698 Amaura (Rock/Ice)
    #699 Aurorus (Rock/Ice)

    #700 Sylveon (Fairy)

    #701 Hawlucha (Fighting/Flying)

    #702 Dedenne (Electric/Fairy)

    #703 Carbink (Rock/Fairy)

    #704 Goomy (Dragon)
    #705 Sliggoo (Dragon)
    #706 Goodra (Dragon)

    #707 Klefki (Steel/Fairy)

    #708 Phantump (Ghost/Grass)
    #709 Trevenant (Ghost/Grass)

    #710 Pumpkaboo (Ghost/Grass)
    #711 Gourgeist (Ghost/Grass)

    #712 Bergmite (Ice)
    #713 Avalugg (Ice)

    #714 Noibat (Flying/Dragon)
    #715 Noivern (Flying/Dragon)

    #716 Xerneas (Fairy)

    #717 Yveltal (Dark/Flying)

    #718 Zygarde (Dragon/Ground)

    Lucario At Service has been keeping track of the 3 Kalos Dexes

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  2. Mr.Munchlax

    Mr.Munchlax Pokeball Rank Trainer

    The only pokémon that I think for definite will be in the new pokédex are the ones that were in the states from the building in the trailer:
    * Eevee line
    * Dratini line
    * Golett line
    * Tympole line

    Last edited: Jan 8, 2013
  3. OceanicLanturn

    OceanicLanturn Non non non!

    From what I have remembered off my head, I think the confirmed pokemon is something like

    - Pikachu (and Raichu)
    - Magikarp (and Gyarados of course)
    - Golurk (and Golett of course)
    - Munchlax (and Snorlax)
    - Kirlia (Ralts and Gardevoir confirmed. Gallade might be :3)
    - Pansear (Simisear. It's almost confirmed that Panpour and Pansage are together, since they're so bromantic)
    - Patrat (and Watchog)
    - Litwick (Lampent, Chandelure)
    - Psyduck (Golduck)
    - Weavile (Sneasel) <At the scene when Audino uses Wish, go back a bit really fast.)
    - Audino
    - Mienfoo (Mienshao)
    - Dratini (Dragonair, Dragonite)

    Ooh above me. I don't really see what the statue was. Of course, that area might be post game XD

    I'm hoping that we get all the beginning rodents in XY. It'd be really cool to have full rodent team (Raticate, Sentret, Zigzagoon, Bibarel, Watchog, XY Rodent)
    Last edited: Jan 8, 2013
  4. Bolt the Cat

    Bolt the Cat Bringing the Thunder

    Most likely, but even that isn't definite yet. Statues and stuff like that is a good hint that they could be, but not confirmation. They've done stuff like this for non-native Pokemon before (for instance, the Dragonite skeleton in the Nacrene Museum). If there's any previous gen line that's even close to confirmed, it's Pikachu, since it's already been seen in the wild. That's still not confirmation, either, but since they probably won't be showing off post game Pokemon in the wild, I think Pikachu's a safe bet.
  5. mockingjay

    mockingjay swift and lol

    I really hope this time around they include (pre)evolutions from past generation Pokemon. That really annoyed me about gen 5
  6. Bolt the Cat

    Bolt the Cat Bringing the Thunder

    Anyway, I don't think every single one of those Pokemon are in the regional dex, they could easily be showing off post game Pokemon. I think a lot of the ones that have been shown most likely are, but not all of them.
  7. rocky505

    rocky505 Well-Known Member

    I wouldn't say Pikachu is near confirmed. There were Pikachu things everywhere throughout Unova and it wasn't in either of the Dexes. But we'll find out in the coming months.
  8. Ver-mont

    Ver-mont Well-Known Member

    I think the most glaring example is that huge Pikachu statue in Nimbasa when Pikachu itself is nowhere to be found in Unova.

    But it's different, we've seen it appearing as a wild Pokémon in the footage.
  9. rocky505

    rocky505 Well-Known Member

    Yeah but they could easily have done that just to show off their top dog. Everything seen in that trailer isn't final, they could change any of that before October.
  10. carboncopy

    carboncopy (-) (-) (-) (-)

    we can't say anything from the trailer, since, they have mentioned it specifically that it may change.
    btw, i just have a feeling that they may merge the regional and national pokedex into one.
  11. Draknir

    Draknir Fear the Deer

    Just going by the trailer alone, I can see the following lines being in:

    Magikarp Line
    Golett Line
    Munchlax Line
    Ralts Line
    Pansear Line
    Patrat Line
    Pichu Line
    Litwick Line
    Psyduck Line
    Sneasel Line
    Mienfoo Line
    Dratini Line

    But, as someone else pointed out, the trailer isn't final and nothing in it is set in stone aside from the starters. Of these, I can see Magikarp, Pichu, Psyduck, and their respective evolutions being in the regional dex simply because they've been in most of the past ones.
  12. Zecaomes

    Zecaomes Hey Scotty,Jesus Man

    I guess there'll be a new evolution for Audino, and that's the reason it is there. I'm really happy for Litwick's line, love Chandelure. And Pikachu's comeback is also great!
  13. ysmr97

    ysmr97 Well-Known Member

    Golurk is definately confirmed, with the statue of it in the city.
  14. rocky505

    rocky505 Well-Known Member

    Pikachu should've been in BW and B2W2 then because of all the Pikachu signs, statues and blow ups.
  15. Oshakpop

    Oshakpop Eeveelution Master

    Seeming Unova appeared to be more of a "reboot" and the fact that BW were originally stand alone in the way that no other Pokémon were available at first. Meanwhile, this generation seems to have Pokémon from all generations, so it's likely I believe we will see some pre and evolutions from past Pokémon this generation.
  16. ysmr97

    ysmr97 Well-Known Member

    BUT, golurk was witnessed being battled!
  17. carboncopy

    carboncopy (-) (-) (-) (-)

    that could have been post league.
    And i actually doubt they have made the regional dex yet., thus, making these discussions pointless.
  18. gliscor&yanmega

    gliscor&yanmega Well-Known Member

    It's hard to say what's going to be in the dex, but I hope some lesser Pokemon that haven't really been in much dexes before get to be in it this time(Houndour please, pretty sure Platinum was basically it's only dex, unless you want to include getting it post game in Gold and that, I think you could get it pre-post game in HG/SS but Safari Zone was too much for me in that game).

    I would like Pikachu to not be in this, but I suppose one generation without it is good(I don't hate it or anything, I just like to see them feel no need to add the mascot into the game, beside statues and whatnot).

    I want whatever new Pokemon to all be in the dex and none be post-game though.
  19. rocky505

    rocky505 Well-Known Member

    And we saw scans of Butterfree and Scizor being battled in DP scans before DP came out and neither were in the DP dex, Scizor was in the Platinum one though. But them showing a pokemon in a video and not being in the game has happened before. They showed Dragonite in B2W2 videos and it wasn't in the dex.
  20. Razmos

    Razmos I have this sponge..

    I'm hoping for a second evolution for Drifloon.
    The evolutionary line doesn't feel complete to me. Drifloon is a balloon, Drifblim is a hot air balloon, so naturally, it would be assumed that next would be a Blimp pokemon.
    Also Drifblim's stats suck considering it's a fully evolved Pokemon.

    It's always nice to get more ghost types.
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