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Dex Speculation/Discussion Thread [READ THE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES]

Discussion in 'Pokémon Generation VI Discussion' started by bobandbill, Jan 8, 2013.

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  1. DCFan

    DCFan The Flame Jacobite

    Probably but there might be new info..
  2. TheEliteEmpoleon

    TheEliteEmpoleon Well-Known Member

    Don't worry. You're not alone. I think that'll be my one thing to hate about this generation.
  3. Pepsi_Plunge

    Pepsi_Plunge Dojyaaa~~aan

    Humm kinda not expecting anything new, we got a lot of information out of this, the only thing I could see them revealing is Mewtwo info since the magazine also covers the movie, they could just end with this mystery also.
  4. BayBird

    BayBird Hummingbird Advocate

    Game Freak never came out and called them CATS, now did they? Source me, dude. Seriously, give me a source.

    You can't. Stop acting like you know for a fact that they are cats and nothing but cats. Entei. Has. Characteristics. Of. Mastiffs. And. St. Bernards. Prove me wrong. Do it.

    Seriously people. Pokemon aren't based on one thing and one thing only just because that's all you see.

    Suicune a panther or leopard... Seriously? That's it? The only inspiration, end of story? Go home.
  5. R_N

    R_N Well-Known Member

    I would be genuinely surprised if we get absolutely nothing on Newtwo because that would mean we're going into the movie with NOTHING other than it exists
    Why even bother with it?!
  6. mask_and_mirror

    mask_and_mirror Hoppip Hugger

    Everything so far has been amazing.

    Meh, I think in game they are called beasts, though they are more dog than cat like I think. I always get annoyed by people who say that eevee and it's 'lutions are cats too, though, when they are clearly foxes :p Well, I guess they're neither, they are pokemon ^_^

    And Skrelp is a sea dragon :3
  7. DCFan

    DCFan The Flame Jacobite

    Maybe they will reveal a new Mewtwo form that is Psychic/Fairy
  8. danburite3

    danburite3 Well-Known Member

    The Fairy type is pretty dumb (especially since none of the confirmed Mons are actually anything close to resembling fairies), but I am glad that the Dragon type is getting kicked down a notch, although most of them have a double Ice weakness already, so throwing another weakness on top of that is kinda mean.

    Personally I would've made Fairy purely defensive: takes half damage from Dragons, but isn't super effective against anything. Sort of like "Normal 2.0".
  9. humilau

    humilau Mister Fisher!

    I would like an Ice/Fairy type, just to rub in the salt a little more.
  10. Mystic Flygon

    Mystic Flygon Well-Known Member

    I might as well rate the new pokes:
    Noivern: Dragon is my favorite type, so because of that I'm going to be harsh with this one. Noivern's design is both cool and odd to me, I don't like the ears at all as they distract me from the rest of the design. I'll just say that I'm neutral with this pokemon.

    Vivillon: When I first saw it, I immediately though bug/ fairy type. Seeing it as bug/ flying was a huge let down but I still enjoy it's cheerful and colorful design.

    Talonflame: Name is way to bland, they didn't even really try with that name. Anyways, I'm happy with the design and of course the fire/ flying type combo. I hope this is just a 1 stage evolution because I don't see any need for an evo past Talonflame.

    Skrelp: Again crappy name, design is great though, I'm intrigued with what it will turn into if anything (I have a feeling it will be like basculin and luvdisc).

    Clauncher: Yet another bad name, I still like the design though. I'm just crossing my fingers it will turn into a fire/ water mantis shrimp but that's just my wishful thinking.
  11. Taodragon

    Taodragon Training Anaylst

    More accurately, Raikou's probably based on the cat half. Either way though, "beasts" is probably better to go with lest we start another fan civil war.

    Eh, fairies vary in their representation of imagery. Some are cute like tinkerbell, some mysterious and ethereal like Gardevior and so on.
    Last edited: Jun 12, 2013
  12. Lyra3490

    Lyra3490 Member

    I wasn't trying to start a fight guys! (I'm a girl by the way... just putting that out there.) In game they are called beasts, not dogs or cats. (Of course I think the term Manticore would better cover them. Or for those who don't want to look it up, a mish mash of random animal aspects.) End of discussion. Back to the new dex, please? Sorry for the trouble!
  13. BayBird

    BayBird Hummingbird Advocate

    Oh I agree. No fighting or extensive arguing is needed. It's just when one person calls someone else out and states that a Pokemon is one thing, no questions ask, must be this thing but not that thing... I tend to get annoyed. Because most Pokemon have more than one inspiration. GF purposely create Pokemon to have multiple source animals, to make them, well, Pokemon.
  14. Flareon Fan

    Flareon Fan Ace Trainer

    Just like you said with flareon, Gengar has the same viable moves Mismagius has and more (Focus blast, sludge bomb, hypnosis and disable), Gengar has higher speed, higher attack, higher special attack and essentially the same bulk as Mismagius, so whatever Mismagius can do, Gengar can do better.

    Well, atleast i hope we both agree Mismagius needs something to improve it and fairy type fits it's origins perfectly (being based on the Nukekubi and Banshees).
  15. Mystic Flygon

    Mystic Flygon Well-Known Member

    Exactly what you said, just like how dragons come in different forms but are still called dragons... fairies come in different forms but are still all called fairies. Just because it's not a midget with butterfly wings doesn't mean it's not a fairy.
  16. Dragoniss

    Dragoniss I'm 26 now, why am I still here?

    I agree...I understand why we have fairy type...but I feel it was EXTREMELY unnecessary...they could have nerfed dragons so many other ways than adding in a new type...

    Admittedly I really wanted Sylveon to be a really bamf normal type...
    And i'm a bit hurt with some of the mons that were changed... -looking at you gardevoir- at the same time it makes her even more badass now -shrug- so I guess its something...
  17. Dukkee

    Dukkee Well-Known Member

    Beasts is what I've always heard them called.

    When're we going to get a picture of this fire lion?
  18. HafuTrance

    HafuTrance Max Toxicity

    Raiku doesn't have claws that can't be sheathed that also happen to look a lot like 3 toed hooves? They all have the characteristics of many animals not just cats.
  19. realarcastform

    realarcastform Rotom Trainer

    Talonflame (better name was the Japanese F(l)arrow) is definitely a step in the right direction for regional birds, because it's now actually one of my faves. It WILL be in my team. I'm guessing this one has a mid-evolution.

    Vivillon is my first fave starter bug ever. I can't wait to get my own Spewpa or whatever is its first stage and give it some great moves. I'm hoping the square motif is on Spewpa too.

    Noivern is one interesting wyvern having dragon as a second type. It's certainly original. I'm guessing this would have a have a pre evo.

    Clauncher, whoo-ee, a pokemon based offf one of the best crustaceans on Earth? The pistol shrimp! Count me in! I can't wait to see what it evolves into. My third fave today! Gamefreak, it needs a goby buddy.

    Skrelp, it might be based off a leafy seadragon, I'm not sure. It might evolve.
  20. danburite3

    danburite3 Well-Known Member

    True, but how many of them are pink balloons, or water mice?

    They could've just called it the "Cute" type, since that seems to be the best way to describe most of the ones they've revealed. Where's the Tinkerbells? Where's the little green goblins? Where's the dwarves and elves? Where's the trolls? True, they could be incoming, but the Pokemon that they've chosen from past gens don't exactly scream "Fairy" to me.

    Besides, Pokemon are already largely based on yokai, which are more or less Japanese fairies, so when you look at it like that, having a special type for fairies seems kind of redundant, since most Pokemon could already fall into the category- Ninetails and Zoroark (kitsune), Shiftry (tengu), Sawk and Throh (oni), Espeon (nekomata), Castform, Rotom and Trubbish could all be tsukumogami (inanimate objects that came to life).
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