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Did 4Kids Dislike Brock?

There's a rumor thats been around for a
While that hasn't been confirmed to be true or false, so ill let you decide. When Pokemon came to America and became phenominal 4Kids supposedly told the Japanese producers to get rid of Brock because he looked to Japanese.
Such as his dark skin, no eyes. Think about it Pokemon premiered in 1997 in Japan, and than premiered 1998 in America (UPN). So it was two years for us, than all of a sudden Brock leaves because he wanted to stay on an island with an older woman (Ivey) and three other girls. Than suddendly January 22, 2000 we get a new trainer (Tracey) who is whiter than Ash and Misty, has regular eyes, has less spikey hair. And in a way looks american (think about it?) so could it be that America got to see the dub and tell the japanese writers immediantly get rid of Brock, I think so. But because America and Japan disliked Tracey its no wonder why he left early. For all we know he was suppose to meet Proffesor Oak, but Oak could've said Tracey your to young, continue traveling with Ash and Misty, than he would've been around during Johto. But Brock came back out of nowhere? Only to stay to this day (suspicious). So 4Kids didn't like Brock, only to get him back permanetly (?) Karma or
Fans pleaze?
 

Kabuto

little punks!
I believe they did actually because he was a Japanese looking man so 4Kids probably told Japan to replace Brock with Tracey (those b*stards). Since fans wanted Brock back and Tracey was a failure for popularity, he was replaced again.
 

Chris

Old Coot
Dark skin and no eyes?

What kind of Asians are you looking at? Last I checked, they DID have eyes. Takeshi's Asian features are simply the SLITS for eyes and short, spikey hair.

Kenji looks American? The boy seems to be well in shape. If he was done to look like an American stereotype, he'd look like Kabigon. :)

It's simply a matter of introducing a new character. It's nothing but rumors and fan speculation with nothing to base their claims on. Takeshi came back simply because of fan response in both regions. While Kenji wasn't hated, people just wanted Takeshi to come back.
 

HoennMaster

Well-Known Member
Tracey was because of 4Kids! I can't believe them. All threw that Season I was complaining about Brock being gone. I can't believe they did that.
 

intergalactic platypus

Only rescues maidens
I have heard a lot that the dubbers pressured the writers to take out Brock for being too Asian looking. I dunno the truth, but I do know that I think they hate Brock more now that he's totally shafted all the time. Even more then poor Max
 

CyberCubed

Yeah, ok!
Did 4kids even have that much power back then? I know NOW they were able to request the writers to tone down the cultural references and the wine bottles, but 4kids was just a small company back in the 1st/2nd season of Pokemon.

4kids were nobodies back in 1998, I doubt they had that much power to request a character change.
 

Kabuto

little punks!
Did 4kids even have that much power back then? I know NOW they were able to request the writers to tone down the cultural references and the wine bottles, but 4kids was just a small company back in the 1st/2nd season of Pokemon.

4kids were nobodies back in 1998, I doubt they had that much power to request a character change.

They still controlled the ratings of all of America and England.


Tracey has no popularity?Just look at Medea.

He was popular somewhat but Brock was brilliant in kanto and fans wanted him back.
 

dannyphantomhott

Ash fan girl! Cute!
Yes Brock was brillaint in Kanto now he's stale LOL. I'm begining to think 4Kids does hate Brock, look at the newest special, they gave him such a little part LOL. Any who I think Japan should give Tracey another chance now that Brock has had like 9 seasons, he's pretty much a back ground character now and doesn't get any character development hardly =[
 

Kabuto

little punks!
A. It was a Japanese produced special

B. They probably wouldn't use Tracey if Brock were to leave, many people suggest this, but it just wouldn't fit.
 

Chris

Old Coot
See what I mean? :) Nothing but fan speculation from fans who don't have concrete evidence.
 

dannyphantomhott

Ash fan girl! Cute!
Rancid Meat said:
A. It was a Japanese produced special

B. They probably wouldn't use Tracey if Brock were to leave, many people suggest this, but it just wouldn't fit.

The special I'm talking about was hand made by 4Kids, it was to test out the new voice actors. Brock just went crazy over Nurse Joy and Officer Jenny and disappeared, I laughed when I saw that becuase that didn't seem like the Brock we knew at all. I mean sure he would go crazy and flirt a bit with them, but when things get serious Brock knows when to take things seriously LOL. Than I was like WTF?! LOL He just vanished after that LOL.
 

dannyphantomhott

Ash fan girl! Cute!
Rancid Meat said:
A. It was a Japanese produced special

B. They probably wouldn't use Tracey if Brock were to leave, many people suggest this, but it just wouldn't fit.


Sorry double post =[
 

Satoshi

リーリエの為に戦ってるトレーナー
No, the special was ANIMATED and CREATED in Japan. It just aired in the US first.

Thus why the Japanese team is credited in the closing.
 
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Kabuto

little punks!
The special I'm talking about was hand made by 4Kids, it was to test out the new voice actors. Brock just went crazy over Nurse Joy and Officer Jenny and disappeared, I laughed when I saw that becuase that didn't seem like the Brock we knew at all. I mean sure he would go crazy and flirt a bit with them, but when things get serious Brock knows when to take things seriously LOL. Than I was like WTF?! LOL He just vanished after that LOL. And who knows whether or not they would use Tracey again, your probaly right but I'd hope they give the guy another chance.

If you mean Mastermind of Mirage Pokemon, that was a Japanese special. It was just dubbed by PUSA and showed first in America. I know Brock is getting stale and unpopular so there is a chance he will be replaced. I liked Tracey too, but i don't see him as a main character.
 

dannyphantomhott

Ash fan girl! Cute!
Satoshi said:
No, the special was ANIMATED and CREATED in Japan. It just aired in the US first.

Dub must have messed it up bad than.
Yes Rancid Meat "Mastermind of Mirage Pokemon" Is the special I'm talking about, thank you. Wish they'd give Tracey a second chance, but your right they probaly won't {Sigh}
 
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dannyphantomhott

Ash fan girl! Cute!
Rancid Meat said:
Actually the only real flaw was the Va's, everything else was the correct music, and script. Now please, lets get back on topic.


Interesting, didn't know that. Well any who yes lets get back on topic, sorry. Like I said before the flirting Brock does get annoying now and day's.
 

Chris

Old Coot
What do you expect? It's part of his character.

If they all of a sudden stopped having him do that, I guarantee you people would complain about how out of character Takeshi is.
 
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