Orphalesion
Well-Known Member
Yep there's definitely the conceptual question whether the "supernatural" exist as a category.
Let's all assume, for the sake of this thought experiment that Alternate Dimensions, Clairvoyance, Reptilian Aliens, Ghosts, the Afterlife, Unicorns, God, Angels, Demons, Astral Planes, Psychic Powers, anything "supernatural" you can think of exists, but a lot of the stuff is just not detectable by the tools humanity has access to.
Does that make it "super natural" as in "beyond/outside of nature"? Or paranormal (contrary to normality/reality)? Or would it just be a part of the natural world we just don't understand (yet) or might even be biologically incapable of understanding? A a caveman wouldn't understand what a computer is and a creature like a field mouse would never be able to grasdp it, does that make a computer a supernatural device?
Is it so unlikely that (theoretically) there are concepts and things that humanity is simply incapable to understand? Does that make them supernatural? The difference between us and a fieldmouse is of course that humanity is awesome in figuring out stuff, but it might not be impossible that at some point, in spaces and concepts yet undreamed of, we'll reach our limits.
I think by its very definition everything that exist within the universe (and whatever lies beyond) is part of nature and ergo natural, whether we can make sense of it or not, so the "supernatural" in its strictest definition does not exist. And if it turns out that magic does exist after all, then that would be a natural thing as well.
Let's all assume, for the sake of this thought experiment that Alternate Dimensions, Clairvoyance, Reptilian Aliens, Ghosts, the Afterlife, Unicorns, God, Angels, Demons, Astral Planes, Psychic Powers, anything "supernatural" you can think of exists, but a lot of the stuff is just not detectable by the tools humanity has access to.
Does that make it "super natural" as in "beyond/outside of nature"? Or paranormal (contrary to normality/reality)? Or would it just be a part of the natural world we just don't understand (yet) or might even be biologically incapable of understanding? A a caveman wouldn't understand what a computer is and a creature like a field mouse would never be able to grasdp it, does that make a computer a supernatural device?
Is it so unlikely that (theoretically) there are concepts and things that humanity is simply incapable to understand? Does that make them supernatural? The difference between us and a fieldmouse is of course that humanity is awesome in figuring out stuff, but it might not be impossible that at some point, in spaces and concepts yet undreamed of, we'll reach our limits.
I think by its very definition everything that exist within the universe (and whatever lies beyond) is part of nature and ergo natural, whether we can make sense of it or not, so the "supernatural" in its strictest definition does not exist. And if it turns out that magic does exist after all, then that would be a natural thing as well.
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