Twilight-Kun
Pokemon World Champion
Nah, I'm actually basing it on its game performanceSo every species of Unfezant would have to be as weak as Ash's Unfezant? Greeeaaat logic mate.
Nah, I'm actually basing it on its game performanceSo every species of Unfezant would have to be as weak as Ash's Unfezant? Greeeaaat logic mate.
Richie wasn’t really rigged. Ash was still a rookie and he didn’t have many intense battles to prepare him fully for the Indigo League as most of his Badges were just handed over to him either by a technicality or as thanks from th3 Leader for saving the day from TRio’s attacks. In Kanto Ash only truly earned the Thunder, Volcano, And Earth Badges. And yes he did earn the Earth Badge. He defeated Jessie and James in battle for the Badge and they refused to hand it over out of spite. The Boulder Badge Ash won only because the fire sprinklers went off and weakened Onix. Onix was clearly in the lead when they went off. The Cascade Badge was only given to him for protecting the Cerulean Gym from TR even though he said he wanted to earn it and he accepted it despite what he said earlier. The Rainbow Badge was handed to him just because he saved Gloom. That’s it. The Soul Badge is iffy considering Ash won in a battle against Koga but the Leader seemed to be holding back somehow. But the Marsh Badge is the biggest example of how incompetent Ash was during Kanto because he got it only because Haunter made Sabrina laugh. And Ash never actually owned Haunter. He never used a Pokeball to try and capture it or even used one when Haunter decided to follow the gang.No more so than those times with Richie, Tobias, and that Cameron dip*beep*
Actually, he pushed her down.Ash brought a Champion's ace to its knees.
Which in this universe translates to "YOU ARE DESTROYED."Actually, he pushed her down.
because that's just Pikachu. the writing is often a lot more consistent with Ash's other pokemon and other trainers.I'm not sure why we use other battles as comparison if the anime is pretty inconsistent with it. May I bring up the infamous "Pikachu lost to a Snivy but tied with a Latios" comparison?
Jangobadass said:No more so than those times with Richie, Tobias, and that Cameron dip*beep*
You mean his Zard's brute strength and resilience. I don't remember strategies but just straight bum rushing.Exactly, and given how hyped up Alain had been throughout XY, him winning was at least foreshadowed and justified by his renowned strength.
Only strange writer favoritism towards anyone else BUT their main character. As always.I think this thread has run its course because we have zero evidence of rigging.
It feels more like "Let's bash Alain because he defeated badass Ash" thread.I think this thread has run its course because we have zero evidence of rigging.
Once again the "Ash almost defeated Diantha" argument...Ash brought a Champion's ace to its knees.
Once again the "Ash almost defeated Diantha" argument...
The problem with that argument is that there is no way of knowing how that battle would've ended if Ash didn't pass out (which by itself showed he still had no control over Greninja's transformation yet). Besides, Diantha intention was to just test out Greninja's ability and not actually defeat him or anything. She only got serious near the end, throughout half of the battle Gardevoir wasn't even using her full potential, since she wasn't mega evolved.
Therefore, that battle doesn't prove by any means that he was ever superior to Alain in terms of power.
They are treated as that region's strongest trainers, as they should be, due to their title.If it had been anyone else BUT a champion, then yeah, it wouldn't be a big deal.
Except Champions are treated as gods in the anime (except maybe not Alder), so of course it does matter.
Pikachu was suffering from being overcharged by Zekrom, causing it to be unable to properly control its electricity while fighting a Snivy that was close to evolving, since it was using Leaf Tornado alreadyI'm not sure why we use other battles as comparison if the anime is pretty inconsistent with it. May I bring up the infamous "Pikachu lost to a Snivy but tied with a Latios" comparison?
Pikachu was suffering from being overcharged by Zekrom, causing it to be unable to properly control its electricity while fighting a Snivy that was close to evolving, since it was using Leaf Tornado already
Trying to muster up electricity for Thunderbolt and Volt Tackle visibly caused exhaustion and Pikachu was visibly panting and sweating by the end of the battle
Pikachu's loss to Snivy isn't as bad as people made it out to be